His only claim for notability is playing for 9 minutes in the Qatari top league. Although he may (barely) pass WP:NFOOTY, I cannot see how he is more notable than before. So, using common sense, I say keep it deleted. – Kosm1fent11:27, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, including season 2009-10, he has had five appearances. Indeed, if the earlier season appearances had been found at the time of the AfD, it would not have been deleted. TerriersFan (talk) 18:29, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
undelete he passes WP:ATHLETE as far as I can tell. DRV isn't a place to make policy. I think an RfC on our sports notability guidelines might be a good idea though. Hobit (talk) 17:40, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not much, I'm afraid. Opinion is divided on this matter, with some favouring the general notability guideline and others (including myself) favouring the pro league approach for determining notability of sportsmen/women. ~~ Bettia ~~talk10:02, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse deletion. WP:NFOOTY is not policy and is not absolute. The relevant section says "Players who have appeared, and managers who have managed, in a fully professional league, will generally be regarded as notable." "Generally" ≠ "always". If the subject only weakly meets the WP:NFOOTY guideline, and if examination of the subject's notability on more general grounds (see WP:GNG) fails to find notability--as was the consensus in this AfD per the closing admin--isn't that the sort of exception that NFOOTY allows for? If not, then what sort of exception is allowed? --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 22:57, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There's no disputing the consensus and deletion, but the evidence showing he has played at a notable level came to light after the AfD, hence this DRV. ~~ Bettia ~~talk21:41, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Given, on this new evidence, how weakly the subject scrapes by on the NFOOTY guideline, if DRV does restore this article, is there any objection to it being immediately renominated for AfD? --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 23:41, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You could do, although there does seem to be a number of Indonesian sources covering him in detail such as this. Although I haven't looked into this fully, I believe there would be enough of these to satisfy the GNG. ~~ Bettia ~~talk11:40, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You could nominate it for AfD, but since he passes WP:NFOOTY, it would be highly unlikely to be successful. I had doubts myself, since one professional league appearance does not seem enough, but 6 feels like an adequate number. – Kosm1fent11:29, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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