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April 23

Category:County fire departments in Virginia

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The result of the discussion was: merge. MER-C 12:13, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:County fire departments in Virginia to Category:Fire departments in Virginia

Nominator's rationale: This is the only state in the US that has a subcategory for "county" fire stations. Seems unnecessary to break up departments from the Category:Fire departments in Virginia. Seems overly specific to me. Zackmann08 (talk) 22:48, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Upmerge Grouping fire departments by type of local jurisdiction (county, fire district, township) seems non-defining and there is no need to diffuse this category. Note that I repopulated the category. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:11, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge -- We should not split things like this accoring to they type of jurisdiction. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:42, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge as above. Division at this level impedes rather than aids navigation. Neutrality^talk 19:03, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:County fire departments in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 12:13, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:County fire departments in the United States (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: There is only one state that uses this category and that one is also up for deletion... Zackmann08 (talk) 22:43, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Combine Nomination Defer to the outcome of the Virginia sub-category, above. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:12, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete if closure of the other discussion empties it. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:42, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:WikiProject Wikislice

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 07:00, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Wikislice (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Category content is just one template; the wikiproject is defunct. DexDor^(talk) 21:53, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support This project is long defunct and has no real talk after 2007. SFB 20:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:WikiProject Wikipedians for encyclopedic merit

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 07:00, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Wikipedians for encyclopedic merit (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Unless someone can explain what this category is for I suggest we delete it to remove unnecessary infrastructure. DexDor^(talk) 21:18, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For whatever reason, the now defunct Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedians for encyclopedic merit was the logical parent page for this category, although it seems to have been removed out of the category. Personally, I would very much like to see some sort of parent category for the one existing subcategory, but am unsure exactly what that category would be. John Carter (talk) 21:22, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Long inactive project with listings with no future use. SFB 20:09, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Häggström diagrams works

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 12:15, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Häggström diagrams works (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This category contains talk pages (of files that are on Commons), but puts them (via Category:Human body diagrams) under Category:Human body which is a category for articles. For info: the category was created by User:Mikael Häggström. DexDor^(talk) 21:13, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't find this category necessary now, so feel free to delete. Mikael Häggström (talk) 13:00, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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14th century BC

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as specified. MER-C 12:15, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE: this was later reversed for births & deaths categories (where dates were justified), see Wikipedia_talk:Categorization_of_people#RfC:_BC_births_and_deaths_categorization_scheme. – Fayenatic London 13:55, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merge Category:1315 BC deaths to Category:14th-century BC deaths

the rest of the years and decades of 14th-16th century BC

Propose merge Category:1324 BC deaths to Category:14th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1338 BC deaths to Category:14th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1366 BC deaths to Category:14th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1366 BC births to Category:14th-century BC births
Propose merge Category:1393 BC deaths to Category:14th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1398 BC deaths to Category:14th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1398 BC births to Category:14th-century BC births
Propose merge Category:1414 BC deaths to Category:15th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1420 BC deaths to Category:15th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1435 BC deaths to Category:15th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1454 BC deaths to Category:15th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1458 BC deaths to Category:15th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1466 BC deaths to Category:15th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1479 BC deaths to Category:15th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1520 BC disestablishments to Category:16th-century BC disestablishments
Propose merge Category:1526 BC deaths to Category:16th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1525 BC deaths to Category:16th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1529 BC deaths to Category:16th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1530 BC deaths to Category:16th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1549 BC deaths to Category:16th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1300s BC to Category:14th century BC
Propose merge Category:1310s BC to Category:14th century BC
Propose merge Category:1320s BC to Category:14th century BC
Propose merge Category:1330s BC to Category:14th century BC
Propose merge Category:1340s BC to Category:14th century BC
Propose merge Category:1350s BC to Category:14th century BC
Propose merge Category:1360s BC to Category:14th century BC
Propose merge Category:1370s BC to Category:14th century BC
Propose merge Category:1390s BC to Category:14th century BC
Propose merge Category:1400s BC to Category:15th century BC
Propose merge Category:1410s BC to Category:15th century BC
Propose merge Category:1420s BC to Category:15th century BC
Propose merge Category:1430s BC to Category:15th century BC
Propose merge Category:1440s BC to Category:15th century BC
Propose merge Category:1450s BC to Category:15th century BC
Propose merge Category:1460s BC to Category:15th century BC
Propose merge Category:1470s BC to Category:15th century BC
Propose merge Category:1480s BC to Category:15th century BC
Propose merge Category:1490s BC to Category:15th century BC
Propose merge Category:1500s BC to Category:16th century BC
Propose merge Category:1510s BC to Category:16th century BC
Propose merge Category:1520s BC to Category:16th century BC
Propose merge Category:1530s BC to Category:16th century BC
Propose merge Category:1540s BC to Category:16th century BC
Propose merge Category:1550s BC to Category:16th century BC
Propose merge Category:1560s BC to Category:16th century BC
Propose merge Category:1570s BC to Category:16th century BC
Propose merge Category:1580s BC to Category:16th century BC
Propose merge Category:1590s BC to Category:16th century BC
Propose merge Category:1300s BC births to Category:14th-century BC births
Propose merge Category:1300s BC deaths to Category:14th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1320s BC deaths to Category:14th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1330s BC deaths to Category:14th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1340s BC births to Category:14th-century BC births
Propose merge Category:1350s BC deaths to Category:14th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1370s BC deaths to Category:14th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1490s BC deaths to Category:15th-century BC deaths
Propose merge Category:1500s BC deaths to Category:16th-century BC deaths
Propose delete Category:1310s BC deaths
Propose delete Category:1360s BC deaths
Propose delete Category:1360s BC births
Propose delete Category:1390s BC deaths
Propose delete Category:1390s BC births
Propose delete Category:1410s BC deaths
Propose delete Category:1420s BC deaths
Propose delete Category:1430s BC deaths
Propose delete Category:1450s BC deaths
Propose delete Category:1460s BC deaths
Propose delete Category:1470s BC deaths
Propose delete Category:1520s BC deaths
Propose delete Category:1530s BC deaths
Propose delete Category:1540s BC deaths
Propose delete Category:1520s BC disestablishments
Propose delete Category:1315 BC
Propose delete Category:1324 BC
Propose delete Category:1338 BC
Propose delete Category:1366 BC
Propose delete Category:1393 BC
Propose delete Category:1398 BC
Propose delete Category:1414 BC
Propose delete Category:1420 BC
Propose delete Category:1435 BC
Propose delete Category:1454 BC
Propose delete Category:1458 BC
Propose delete Category:1466 BC
Propose delete Category:1479 BC
Propose delete Category:1520 BC
Propose delete Category:1525 BC
Propose delete Category:1526 BC
Propose delete Category:1529 BC
Propose delete Category:1530 BC
Propose delete Category:1549 BC

Nominator's rationale: merge the first 57 categories of this list, per WP:SMALLCAT, most of these categories contain one article (or in a few cases two articles, in one case three articles). After merging, the other categories of this list become empty. This is a continuation of this previous nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:13, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support in principle -- as long as this does not result in any annual articles being orphaned: I think there are enough merge noms to ensure this does not happen. Annual and decade categories at remote periods are a hindrance, not an aid, to navigation. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:47, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- I hope this leaves nothing orphaned. I hope Marcocapelle will continue his good work, to merge annual categories into decades for at least another four or five centuries, until we get to a point where decades have a significant population. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:59, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per my last comments. Such narrow categories aren't grouping like material effectively. SFB 18:26, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Welders

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The result of the discussion was: delete. However, I have made a list at List of welders, following the precedent for electricians. – Fayenatic London 18:41, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Welders (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Nobody in this category is notable as a welder: two are sports figures and two are politicians. The subcategory (which is also up for deletion: see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 April 21#Friction stir welder) doesn't contain welders at all (they are all design engineers). Seyasirt (talk) 13:55, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As being non-defining (IE not mentioned in the lead of the subject). Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 17:59, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete ambiguously named, the piece of hardware is also called a "welder" -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:11, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep this category at least for Bevan Braithwaite, who started as a welder and became then Chief Exectutive of The Welding Institute. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 21:16, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bevan Braithwaite didn't become notable (if he is notable) as a welder. DexDor^(talk) 20:09, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Note: Categories like this can also be processed by reviewing each article against WP:COP#N and if that results in the category being empty then (after a few days) CSD it. DexDor^(talk) 20:09, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional tortoises

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The result of the discussion was: merge. --slakr^\ talk / 23:49, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Fictional tortoises to Category:Fictional turtles

Nominator's rationale: Not a needed division. JDDJS (talk) 06:06, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can you explain more? What is wrong with 'tortoises'. Hajme 07:18, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge then Rename to Category:Fictional tortoises and turtles. Normally I would keep these two topics separate but both categories are jumbled up. E.g. the List of fictional turtles conatins eight tortoises. Twiceuponatime (talk) 08:19, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That was my original idea, but when I went to Tortoise it said "Contrary to popular belief, tortoises are in fact turtles rather than part of a separate group." so adding both to the lead would be redundant. It would be like having a cat for "Fictional bears and Pandas". JDDJS (talk) 16:17, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, don't rename - unless you can come up with a clear distinction between turtles and tortoises which is obvious enough that you could reasonably split all fictional animals of this general group into these in an ENGVAR-neutral way (see Tortoise#Use of the terms turtle, tortoise and terrapin), there's no reason to have the categories split. And tortoises are turtles, as can be seen by the fact that Category:Tortoises is a subcat of Category:Turtles. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:05, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Category:Fictional tortoises is a valid subcategory of Category:Fictional turtles. It's not a small cat either. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:35, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

After removing some of the the ones that didn't belong, there are only 7 articles in the cat which is pretty small. My main concern, however, is that in fiction the distinguish between a regular turtle and a tortoise is usually not clear. Rabbits and hares, which are actually different species, are combined for the same reason. JDDJS (talk) 20:05, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For info: Category:Fictional hares and rabbits. DexDor^(talk) 07:10, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. Turtle vs. tortoise isn't a consistent distinction across varieties of English, and fictional animals may not be described with sufficient detail to determine whether they are turtles or tortoises. Bixi (mythology) is described as a turtle in the lead, and a tortoise at other points (and probably should be in a Category:Mythological turtles rather than one for fictional creatures). I'm not quite sure how Pokemon evolution works, but Squirtle and Blastoise] only seem to be identifiable as a turtle or tortoise via portmanteau elements of their names. Plantdrew (talk) 22:03, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom and comments above. Suggest also that after the merge a note be left at Category Talk:Fictional tortoises referring to this discussion. DexDor^(talk) 07:10, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge (amending headnote if appropriate to refer to tortoises). I think we should retain the subject as a cat-redirect or someone will re-create it. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:51, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge then Rename to Category:Fictional tortoises and turtles - as above. Neutrality^talk 19:04, 25 April 2015 (UTC) Striking out my vote on[reply]

That would be redundant because according to the tortoises page ""Contrary to popular belief, tortoises are in fact turtles rather than part of a separate group.".JDDJS (talk) 23:16, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Hmm, that's a simplified explanation; I've edited the article to expand a bit on it. On further consideration, I'm moving my vote to undecided. Neutrality^talk 18:41, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:WikiProject NCSLC members

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 07:01, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:WikiProject NCSLC members (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: asociated WikiProject marked as defunct, neither of the users in the category has been active in the past 5 years (one not since 2006, the other had a single action in May 2010, and otherwise not since August 2009). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 03:54, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support Inactive. SFB 20:08, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Cheating in chess

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 03:47, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Cheating in chess (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary category with a single article. MaxBrowne (talk) 02:51, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

delete No need for a category which only contains its main article. Seyasirt (talk) 13:21, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The sole article in this category had been directly in Category:Cheating instead, which was appropriate. Quale (talk) 00:59, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. As already said, single article in category. Not needed in anyway. --Zackmann08 (talk) 01:09, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge back to Category:Cheating to ensure that the main article is not orphaned. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:53, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/upmerge as above. Neutrality^talk 19:05, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge to Category:Cheating since there's only one article in this cat anyways. --Lenticel ^(talk) 02:25, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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