Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Pines, Butte County, California

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:48, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Pines, Butte County, California

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This name appears at an intersection with a few houses about it rather late in the topo game, and as far as I can tell the area is now considered just part of the larger Yankee Hill area (the Yankee Hill Historical Society, for example, operates out of a building a bit north of this spot, on the far side of the town). Searching is impaired by false hits and the only reference I could find that referred to a The Pines community I could not definitely associate with this spot. Mangoe (talk) 05:00, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 06:30, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 06:30, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - This source from 1977 calls The Pines "a community" with a school, the "Concow School". Google Maps shows a school with that name a short distance north. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:22, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it is not quite so simple, because the same listing says of the school that it was "located at Spanish Town two miles north of Yankee Hill - Annexed to Yankee Hill 1943".(p. 34) The topos show two schools, the one labelled "Concow School", and the other right next to "The Pines" label. I'm not sure what to make of this, in terms of getting the article past simply claiming that it was a community and giving coordinates. Mangoe (talk) 18:56, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/Redirect Part of the Yankee Hill, Butte County, California CDP, near the border of Concow, California. "A community" includes neighborhoods and any cluster of homes, falling under WP:GEOLAND#2, and this lacks significant coverage or legal recognition. Butte County Place Names is not a unique source of substance, rather here merely listing a name on Topo maps like the GNIS: It just says The Pines is "NE corner of sect 33", section 33 so numbered on this map. Concow Elementary School serves/-d a wide area of Concow and does not belong to just this neighborhood. Reywas92^Talk 05:41, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Butte County Place Names is locally-written and contains original content about Butte County. It appears highly reliable, and in some instances, is the source cited by GNIS. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:37, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, PhantomSteve/talk¦contribs\ 19:45, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete can't see any good evidence that this exists as a community. Even the GNIS doesn't think this is a populated place, it's listed as a "locality", which means "Place at which there is or was human activity; it does not include populated places...". Per WP:GEOLAND if it isn't a populated place then it has to satisfy WP:GNG, and it clearly doesn't because we aren't even sure it exists. Possibly it is used as a name for part of this area, there's a Pines Yankee Hill Hardware store nearby, for example, but that doesn't make it a community, and it certainly doesn't look like the Concow schools are considered to be part of it. Hut 8.5 20:16, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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