Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stevie Hoang (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Could editors arguing to Keep this article add the sources they found directly into the article? Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:44, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stevie Hoang

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Previously deleted through AfD as subject does not seem to pass any of the criterion listed under WP:MUSICBIO. Only this cited source by record label seem to have power. He released "Fight for You" which was later remixed by Jason Derulo and the source to that statement is Apple Music. No review whatsoever on Allmusic, only passing mentions here, and broken links cited on the article. He would pass #5 of WP:MUSICBIO but all his albums were "self-released". dxneo (talk) 05:00, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists, Bands and musicians, and United Kingdom. dxneo (talk) 05:00, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:18, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Music. dxneo (talk) 10:14, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete provided sources are not enough to show notability or meeting WP:MUSICBIO.Royal88888 (talk) 20:06, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak keep~~ Keep he has had at least one album released on Mercury Records, shown here with others on Avex Trax, sold 65,000 copies of one album in Japan and has significant coverage in The Times here and the Guardian source here linked in the nomination is more than a passing mention, its a small but sharp critique, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 00:12, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
All that is WP:CRYSTAL, any charting list verifying the subjects "massive blow up" in Japan? Anyone can achieve hits online but still fail WP:GNG, I can give a few examples as a South African who knows an individual called Shebeshxt, he's upcoming and very big (on streaming platforms and TikTok) but yet no news of him online as his recordings were mostly self-released like the subject of the matter. Please provide a national charting list, award nom/win, or even a certified recording, something that can satisfy WP:MUSICBIO or WP:ANYBIO. dxneo (talk) 03:48, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's not crystal, we've got a reliable source The Times stating that he's sold 65,000 albums in Japan. He's also released three albums on a notable label Avex Trax as well as a release on Mercury Records so he is not self released, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 01:03, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:13, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here's evidence that one of his albums charted at 29 on the Oricon Album Chart the top chart in Japan here. It is also confirmed in the Japan Wikipedia article here which also has extra references such as Billboard Japan, and Natalie. Changed to full keep due to charting, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 01:12, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:07, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep based on charting in Japan and the album sales. Oaktree b (talk) 16:43, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep this source plus ones above meet NBASIC Mach61 (talk) 03:18, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.