Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan O'Reilly (singer-songwriter)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The only two arguments to keep come from the article's creator and primary author, and from a new account whose only two edits are to this AfD. Other than that, there's unanimous agreement to delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:41, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan O'Reilly (singer-songwriter)

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Doesn't meet WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 05:04, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Subject lacks notability following searches turn in nothing. KGirlTrucker81 ^{(Wanna chat?)} 05:57, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: References in Article are not realiable nor notable. --VViking_TalkEdits 15:07, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Here is the result of my research on the Internet: Ryan O’Reilly has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician himself. He has received non-trivial coverage in independent sources dealing with his music and his international concert tours in Spain, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Canada, etc. He has released his debut album on an important indie label and will release his second album by autumn this year. He is accompanied on his concert tours by two or more musicians. Professional music videos have been made for him. His songs can be downloaded on Apple Music, iTunes, Napster, etc. Furthermore, he has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio network. For more details, see Talk:Ryan O'Reilly (singer-songwriter). ADogCalledElvis (talk) 02:56, 22 July 2017 (UTC)— Note to closing admin: ADogCalledElvis (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. [reply]

The article has now been substantially improved. The singer's name has even been included in the ‘Poplexikon’ of SWR3, Germany's most popular radio music channel. To my mind, the tags can be removed. ADogCalledElvis (talk) 04:35, 23 July 2017 (UTC)— Note to closing admin: ADogCalledElvis (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. [reply]

Delete. Despite the admirable effort by ADogCalledElvis, most of the additional sources are self-published or unreliable, and can't really be used to cement notability. This is confirmed by my own news search for him. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 15:29, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There are positive articles in the print media in Great Britain, Germany, Spain, etc., for instance, in the London Evening Standard, Der Tagesspiegel, Stern (magazine), Kieler Nachrichten and La Vanguardia, certainly not self-published and reliable. His songs even reached the German airplay charts, so that a biography of the singer was included in the 'Poplexikon' of SWR3, Germany's most popular radio music channel, which has nearly 4 million listeners daily. This means that the subject has received significant coverage in reliable sources, so that this singer-songwriter is notable enough for a short article. ADogCalledElvis (talk) 16:26, 29 July 2017 (UTC)— Note to closing admin: ADogCalledElvis (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. [reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The article is in a substantially different place than it was when it was nominated. Can the post-relist discussion add to Ritchie333's efforts in evaluating the sources added by ADogCalledElvis?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, A Train^talk 15:57, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:56, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. [Ryan O'Reilly is one of many upcoming singer/songwriters and well deserves to be listed on Wikipedia] Aberystwyth94 (talk) 07:40, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Important Note to the closing admin - The discussion involved it's page creator but didnt had page creators template to notify other users, which I have added. Have also opened a sockpuppet investigation about the case here. As it appears that the author had created another account to cast keep vote, which is against policies. You may like to wait for the result of SPI investigation before taking action. Anoptimistix Let's Talk 09:36, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I do not understand what is going on here. I am not identical with another user named Aberystwyth94. I heard Ryan O'Reilly on the German radio, where he has achieved some popularity. That's why I have created an article on this singer-songwriter, using multiple sources I found on the internet. Incidentally, a third user using an IP has also contributed to the article, correcting an obvious mistake in my edit. I would recommend that user Anoptimistix should apologize for his false accusations. ADogCalledElvis (talk) 13:00, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Waiting for SPI results.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L3X1 (distænt write) )evidence( 14:06, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The author above has not created another account (if by that you mean "Aberystwyth94"). The latter is a valid account as you can see in my introduction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aberystwyth94 (talk • contribs) 09:31, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 01:08, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry, but evidence is against your claim. The subject clearly meets the general notability guideline: O’Reilly has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject in at least three languages. He also meets the criteria for musicians and ensembles: the singer has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself, as this criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and radio documentaries. O’Reilly has had an album on the German airplay charts. He has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of his international concert tours. He has released his debut album on an important indie label, and, according to his record company, his second album will be out by autumn this year. He has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across the German radio network, etc. etc. This means that O’Reilly clearly meets WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. ADogCalledElvis (talk) 14:14, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Page is overstuffed with paltry sources, but my searches fail to locate WP:RS coverage. Fails WP:ANYBIO. Perhaps WP:TOOSOON.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:24, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.