Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicholas Rockefeller

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The result was Delete. —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-02-11 23:49Z

Nicholas Rockefeller

This person is not notable enough to be included in Wikipedia. In any case, nothing verifiable in the article so far suggests that he is. Thomas Basboll 23:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete nothing notable about this fellow other than his illustrious surname as the article stands.--KenWalker | Talk 09:10, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Do NOT delete It seems Nicholas Rockefeller is one of the people the director Aaron Russo says had foreknowledge of 9/11 events. Russo explicitly mentions this in a documentary Aaron Russo: The Architecture of the Prison Planet available from http://www.ac911t.org. An extract of the docu with the reference to Rockefeller can be quickly reviewed at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609&hl=en 13:33, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Do NOT DeleteNicholas Rockefeller is at the center of organizations seeking to require national ID cards, loss of personal data privacy, monitoring and surveillance via special cell phone technologies, and loss of cash as a vehicle of currency exchange among other Big Brother agendas. To refer to him or his activities as "nothing notable" is ludicrous. Of even greater curiosity is the fact that the name of Nicholas Rockefeller is NOT listed among the family tree members of The Rockefeller Family (decendants of John D. Rockefeller) shown at Wikipedia, although Nicholas Rockefeller is a prominent member of many organizations owned or controlled by the Rockefeller family. Who are the parents of Nicholas Rockefeller? When and where was he born? [removed, per WP:BLP] Nicholas Rockefeller told Aaron Russo 11 months BEFORE 9-11 that an "event' was soon to occur that would cause the US to invade Afghanistan, then Iraq. [removed, per WP:BLP]

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.5.205.51 (talk) 19:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

(A passage of evidence for NR's notability posted here has been moved to the talk page. removed from vote page.)

Note: if there were a reliable source behind these claims then all would be in order. NR could be added to Rockefeller family article, and his parents could be identified in this article. (Just being a member of that family would, to my mind, constitute notability.) We simply don't have a reliable source to support any of these claims. That is, we don't know that they are true.--Thomas Basboll 20:01, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - absent unsupported conspiracy cruft, not notable. Tom Harrison ^Talk 14:15, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unless sourced and referenced i.a.w. WP:BIO by end of this AfD Alf photoman 15:58, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, nn. Edeans 00:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. We have absolutely zero documentation that Nicholas Rockefeller is a seventh or eighth cousin - or even related to any of the famous Rockefellers in the most distant way. - Nunh-huh 14:00, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There actually exists documentation where David Rockefeller names Nicholas Rockefeller as a seventh or eight cousin. The source is: The Wall Street Journal. 28 September 2005 --Rubyscube 11:21, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The WSJ says, "Nicholas Rockefeller declined to say where in the Rockefeller family he fits. But the family's patriarch, David Rockefeller, said through an associate that he doesn't recall ever meeting Nicholas. The relationship 'is probably quite distant, seventh or eighth cousins,' according to the associate, Peter Johnson." Not quite "absolute zero" but also not quite "documentation", IMHO.--Thomas Basboll 11:11, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Ey, misread that a bit. --Rubyscube 11:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not documentation, at all. No documents whatsoever are involved. An offhand comment about a "probable" relationship would be discarded as "evidence" by even the most amateur genealogist. - Nunh-huh 15:25, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Addition: Nicholas Rockefeller, J.D. - Chairman of Rockefeller Pacific, former Managing Partner at RockVest, a Rockefeller family investment vehicle, permanent member of the U.S. Council of Foreign Relations, Advisory Board member of RAND, head of Perkins Coie's Asia Pacific Practice Group. J.D. from Yale University. (source: http://www.webinaction.com/tcg/team.html)

Still not up to the "notable" terms? --Rubyscube 12:41, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Article mentions nothing that suggests being "notable" to me. - grubber 19:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Moderator Thomas Basboll said earlier on this page that "Just being a member of that family would, to my mind, constitute notability." + the page I just mentioned (http://www.webinaction.com/tcg/team.html) asserts that he was the "Managing Partner at RockVest, a Rockefeller family investment vehicle" So.. Rockefeller as surname, and former highranking partner in a Rockefeller family investment vehicle. But no links however to the Rockefeller family? Seems logical. --Rubyscube 02:21, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Having a certain last name is not enough to establish notability to me. - grubber 17:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.