Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Me1 vs Me2 Snooker with Richard Herring

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The result was no consensus. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:51, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Me1 vs Me2 Snooker with Richard Herring

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OK, so this was speedy deleted yesterday, and has been recreated. I can see that the 'longest running snooker podcast' might well be a assertion of importance good enough for A7, so it's time to bring it here.

This podcast isn't notable in its own right. Richard is, the Leceister Square podcast is, the Collings and Herrin podcast is, but this one isn't, because there's no reliable sources talking about it in depth. It just doesn't meet the notability standard. Of the four sources provided in the article at the moment, the first is a blog, the second is a link to download the podcast, and the third is about a completely different Herring show. The fourth, whilst it does mention the snooker podcast, it's barely a mention and is written by the subject himself. All the other sources I've found are the same; a small mention, a para at most, in a feature on/interview with the undoubtedly notable Richard Herring. Ged UK 11:52, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, this is more appropriate course of action - I believe we should keep this page. I take on board that the article needs to be better sourced and backed up - a more serious approach will be taken in future in keeping it fact checked. The podcast is mentioned here in an article by the Huffington Post. "Herring's 'Me 1 Vs Me 2 Snooker' podcast, in which he plays himself at billiards, is a little more niche, but arguably represents the diversity of podcasting with equal panache." So there you go, an important podcast in that it shows the diversity of podcasting. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/23/podcast-itunes-billion_n_3638585.html?utm_hp_ref=technology&ir=Technology

Secondly, here is a link from Time Out magazine describing the podcast as one of the top ten Edinburgh Fringe comedy highlights of the year, the Edinburgh Fringe Festival is the most famous arts festival in the world and Time out is a world famous publication, indicating further notability. http://www.timeout.com/london/comedy/edinburgh-fringe-comedy-highlights-2013-top-ten-late-shows-and-odd-nights-out

Thirdly, here is a link showing how the podcast has previously been number one in the Itunes podcast charts showing even further notability - http://www.itunescharts.net/uk/artists/podcast/comedycouk/podcasts/me1-vs-me2-snooker-with-richard-herring/

I also would like to point you in the direction of this press release by Avalon about the Me1 vs Me2 podcast - I believe this indicates at least a certain level of importance. http://www.avalonuk.com/assets/files/Me1vsMe2PR.pdf Wiggs (talk) 22:50, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Another article that does not come from Richard Herring himself: http://www.freakinawesomenetwork.net/2013/05/podcast-purview-me1-vs-me2-snooker-w-richard-herring/

If any wikipedia user could give me any advice on how to improve this article further I would gratefully receive it.Wiggs (talk) 23:20, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This has been up a week without comment from other users Wiggs (talk) 21:57, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:09, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stifle (talk) 19:03, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

At worst, merge into Richard Herring. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 08:59, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I don't see enough coverage here, but if the podcasts are to be shown at the Fringe Festival which is currently ongoing, they may attract some press in the next few days. However, since there are thousands of films at this festival, likely not all will be reviewed in the media. Maybe the article is just a little premature? The fact that there are a lot of these podcasts shouldn't affect the result here - Wikipedia isn't the Guinness Book of World Records. —Anne Delong (talk) 02:38, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think the five links I've provided above show a fair bit of coverage - but there may well be more post-Fringe.Wiggs (talk) 21:52, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 03:31, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as lacking in depth coverage in reliable sources as required by the WP:GNG. If such sources get added to the article, feel free to ping my talk page. Stuartyeates (talk) 03:59, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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