Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Inbal Rabin-Lieberman

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Defer to editorial action‎. There is no clear consensus here between the move, a redirect (per Levivich) or gidonB's original proposal. That is to say there are more !votes for move, but nor is there any refutation of their suggestions. Either of these actions can be handled editorial as there's no support for deletion outright and therefore no need for admin action here or another relist Star Mississippi 15:05, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Inbal Rabin-Lieberman

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Delete per WP:PSEUDO

If the person is notable only in connection with a single event, and little or no other information is available to use in the writing of a balanced biography, that person should be covered in an article regarding the event, with the person's name as a redirect to the event article placing the information in context.

and per WP:BLP1E

1) Reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event. 2) The person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual. Biographies in these cases can give undue weight to the event and conflict with neutral point of view. In such cases, it is usually better to merge the information and redirect the person's name to the event article.

बिनोद थारू (talk) 00:31, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. बिनोद थारू (talk) 00:31, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Military. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:48, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Nir Am#History per WP:BIO1E, WP:ATD, and WP:CHEAP. gidonb (talk) 02:46, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move to 2023 Hamas attack on Nir-Am since there is no standalone article on the event. The policy reads "person should be covered in an article regarding the event". There are no grounds for deletion. Marokwitz (talk) 14:24, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move to 2023 Hamas attack on Nir-Am - Per Marokwitz. Dovidroth (talk) 07:13, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move per Markowitz and Dovidroth. Andre🚐 07:44, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Move to 2023 Hamas attack on Nir-Am per above. // Timothy :: talk 07:20, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I have no objection to a 2023 Hamas attack on Nir-Am article. The move suggestions above, however, are really rework suggestions. Rework is usually beyond the scope of AfDs. I suggest closing as I originally suggested, which makes most sense by the current situation. Next someone can create 2023 Hamas attack on Nir-Am by using the existing text from the history and additional sources, plus re-redirect Inbal Rabin-Lieberman to 2023 Hamas attack on Nir-Am. gidonb (talk) 13:09, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: It looks like a consensus to Move this article but I'd like to hear any response to User:Gidonb's comment on this proposal.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:01, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - While I agree with the desired end state being "this should redirect to some other article", simply moving this article without further modifications to a new title such as 2023 Hamas attack on Nir-Am does not look workable: Significant editing would also be needed, but I'm not seeing anybody stepping up as a volunteer to do those edits. Neither is asking the closer to create the target reasonable. As a compromise, I'd suggest draftifying this article, thus giving interested editors time to create the target article after which the redirect can be created. Alternatively, I'd be OK with a "stubify and move" if the closer is willing to put in that extra effort. -Ljleppan (talk) 10:23, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. gibond's alternative seems to offer better contextualization of the event and avoid WP:NOTNEWS. बिनोद थारू (talk) 17:52, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not opposed to that either. Ljleppan (talk) 18:00, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Nir Am#History per gidonb w/o prejudice to somebody creating a stand-alone about the event, again per gidonb. That's the shortest and most efficient route to policy/guideline compliance and still allows for future expansion. Levivich (talk) 18:51, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:58, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.