Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ibrahim Jassam

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was ‎Keep without prejudice to a move to a better title. Eluchil404 (talk) 03:13, 16 January 2024 (UTC)(non-admin closure)[reply]

Ibrahim Jassam

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This biography article needs more facts of this person's life and career in addition to this single incident. More information is needed via in-depth sources to establish notability. After searching, found social media websites and coverage of this article's events, but unable to find sources with significant coverage about the person. Article was created on 13 May 2009. JoeNMLC (talk) 07:42, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Journalism and Iraq. AllyD (talk) 10:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 11:49, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Safety of journalists#Non-lethal and physically violent attacks against journalists, but with a heavy rewrite with available sources. Probably with a new sub-heading creation for military arrests of journalists. (Unless there's a better article; I'm afraid I might not have searched the right term to find the best one.)

Jassam's imprisonment was covered from 2008 through his release in 2010, which the U.S military admitted in a statement only happened due to a negotiated withdrawal of U.S. troops from the area. (I've been reading a lot of articles. I have at least 20 open right now, and I closed the one on the acceptance speech that mentioned multiple imprisoned journalists as well as a couple that copied the LA Times. Syndication, I think.)

Even with a date-targeted Google search I couldn't find anything other than the information on his arrest. However, I'm in the U.S., so it's possible that someone in the Middle East would have better luck.

Anything returned with this name prior to 2008 was about another person (not a photographer or journalist). OIM20 (talk) 02:57, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 10:26, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:05, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep/rename. I expanded this article using all the resources I could find. I don't think the solution suggested by @OIM20 would work, even though it is a good idea, because the article suggested as a merge target has only overall details and not specifics. On notability, I think this case is significant because it was the first time US forces refused to comply with a decision by an Iraqi court, at least on civilian cases, during the US invasion of Iraq. I'm trying to find more WP:RS sources to establish this. What I would suggest is that the article be renamed to Arrest of Ibrahim Jassam because there are more details for the event than for the person. Also, I think this article could serve as an umbrella article for smaller but similar cases like those of Ali al Mashaddani and Bilal Hussein, which I'm trying to incorporate under a similar cases heading. Matarisvan (talk) 14:45, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and let Matarisvan continue their work. There clearly is significant coverage in multiple reliable sources over several years so likely meets WP:NEVENT. I support renaming the article. ~Kvng (talk) 17:13, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 09:12, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Seems ok, his detention is more notable than his works, but the sourcing supports notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:12, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.