Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Footle

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:52, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Footle

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Although 'footle' is a perfectly good word, this particular meaning seems to be a meaning promoted by the self-published author Brian Strand[1] whose self-published books are being spammed (I think that's the appropriate word) and used in various articles by the creator of this article. See also [2] Dougweller (talk) 15:47, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete absolutely no evidence of notability for this term, looks like an attempt at self promotion.Theroadislong (talk) 16:58, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:08, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete We don't have an article on poetic forms that summarises all the different poetic forms (just a category Category:Poetic form). If we had such an article, this might be included, since it's mentioned in one or more published sources, but I can't see it meriting its own article and I don't see any merge target. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:53, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Clearly as the contributor of the page I disagree and have written to Dougweller (talk)separetely accordingly.The 'Footle' is a well established and technically valid poetic form albeit ,short (like for example the couplet or haiku )although the 'evidence' is at the moment mainly in digital ares (but that's where it's at now! (hence Wiki ,google, now ebooks etc etc etc) the name was selected from the dictionary definition as it completely describes this delightful form. .I reject the argument that this page is some form of self promotion or in anyway some form of spamming (again see my response to Dougweller (talk))as it is completely in line with the hundreds of edits and citations etc that I have made on Wiki & Wikiquote over the past six years which were made purely for educational purposes of Wiki readers which I believe conforms with both my publishing endeavours digital and otherwise & moreover Wiki's raison d'etre. Ichthys58 (talk) 07:53, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I think you misunderstand Wikipedia. We are not here to promote new ideas (and the article more or less says this is a new idea you are promoting, naming you and thus promoting you, whatever your intentions). If it is well-established then I would expect it, like couplets and haiku, to be found in sources meeting our criteria at WP:RS but that simply isn't the case. Being mentioned on the Internet isn't enough. See WP:NOTE. Dougweller (talk) 10:06, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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I do not misunderstand Wiki,(I have edited here and made citations,&contributed pages here & on Wikiquote for over six years),the footle is not a 'new' idea.it may well be 'new ' to Wiki hence the page I contributed ; I labelled this for a 'footle' five or six years ago.Clearly Wiki will be left behind if it does not change with the times.If after a week you decide to delete it,its fine by me.Regards Brian Ichthys58 (talk) 11:55, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - obvious self-publishing self-promoter pushing obscure neologism for vanity purposes. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:35, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - pick your reason - not notable, at least not yet; can't be found covered significantly in multiple reliable sources; and too new a word to be in this Project. Not really vanity. Perhaps Transwiki to Wiktionary. Bearian (talk) 18:03, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- CommentIt's already at Wikitionary not surprisingly as it's in the OED - etymology "Probably variant of footer, to screw around, from obsolete fouter, an act of sexual intercourse, from French foutre, to have sexual intercourse, from Latin futuere" and meaning To waste time; to trifle.To talk nonsense. Dougweller (talk) 18:40, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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