Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emil Inc.

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The result was delete. v/r - T P 14:57, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Emil Inc.

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Delete. The subject does not meet the general notability guidelines, or topical notability guidelines for bands or composers. Songs written were for subject's own albums, released under the subject's own label; soundtrack was composed for a film for which the subject wrote, produced, directed, and appeared. Unable to locate significant coverage in reliable sources which are independent of the subject. While it appears that the article is supported by references, the quality is seriously lacking. Sourcing does not meet the threshold for significance, reliability, or independence. Cind.amuse (Cindy) 02:12, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I found more links for Mr. Emil Inc.

RHAPSODY http://www.rhapsody.com/#/artist/emil-inc/albums
RHAPSODY http://www.rhapsody.com/#/search?query=emil+ink+
E-MUSIC http://www.emusic.com/artist/Emil-Inc-MP3-Download/11683381.html
CD UNIVERSE http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7224365
ITUNES http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/emil-inc/id178856482
LIKE http://www.ilike.com/artist/Emil+Inc.
TOWER RECORDS http://www.tower.com/emil-inc-cd/wapi/106214031
ITUNES http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/man-on-the-throne/id399108962
CD UNIVERSE http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1218147/a/Works+Of+Ink,+Vol.2.htm
KAMR NBC TV http://myhighplains.com/fulltext?nxd_id=11281
GREAT SONG FR. http://www.greatsong.net/PAROLES-EMIL-INK,THE-MUSE,100691933.html
AMAZON UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/Emil-Inc/dp/B001FSXUFS
YOUTUBE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1f_iGNLZpU
AMAZON FRANCE http://www.amazon.fr/Emil-Inc/dp/B000G1T0KE/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1311583865&sr=1-1
AMAZON GERMANY http://www.amazon.de/Emil-Inc./e/B001LHXOKO/ref=ntt_art_dp_pel_1
ALLMUSIC http://www.allmusic.com/album/emil-inc-r844035
AMAZON USA http://www.amazon.com/Emil-Inc./e/B001LHXOKO
BILLBOARD http://www.billboard.com/#/album/emil-inc/emil-inc/783982
KAMR NBC TV http://myhighplains.com/studio4fulltext/?nxd_id=201777
KAMR NBC TV http://myhighplains.com/studio4fulltext/?nxd_id=201767 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.13.69 (talk) 09:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Most of those links you added (if not all) are for sellers (i.e. spam), are repeated, and are not reliable sources (most fail ELNO). Can you please point out (and provide sources to the effect) which of the numbered points in band notability requirements it meets? -- Alexf^(talk) 10:33, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. per nom. -- Alexf^(talk) 10:33, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry Alexf, I was just trying to help with more links. My bad — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.13.69 (talk) 23:44, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I was happy to see that there is an Emil Inc. page on your site. I was going to create it myself one day. I have been Emil's fan for 3 years now, ever since I've heard his "Works of Ink 2" record. Then I saw him live in Dallas Texas, after that I was hooked. However it came to my attention that this page might be deleted. I'm not sure why. Please let me know what I can do as a fan to help you keep this entry on this site. I made a couple of changes on his page, I hope its okay. There were a couple of mistakes that I have corrected. He just did a show on the local NBC channel about a month ago and it was amazing. I watched it live on TV. I will send you a link. Nice interview and a great performance of his songs. I took this link from KAMR NBC archive pages (myhighplains.com) Here it is, please watch it:

http://myhighplains.com/search-fulltext?nxd_id=201777 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainfantastic3 (talk • contribs) 09:31, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 13:15, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 13:15, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:11, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - No signs of notability, the only argument in favor of keeping it seems to clash pretty hard with WP:ELNO and WP:ILIKEIT. Not to mention, the article's pretty barren as is anyway. I read it and felt like I learned little to nothing about this musician. Sergecross73 msg me 18:06, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per lack of notable media coverage. All the links provided on the article are simply Amazon, iTunes, and music download websites and those websites don't provide a solid biography...just the listing of his music. No good sources were found on both a Google and Yahoo! search either, SwisterTwister talk 20:14, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Found enough links and information about this artist on google. Just google EMIL INC. There is an interesting link I found about his film

http://www.shortfilmcentral.com/person/1627/

Response to above Just because they are mentioned there doesn't mean the article is notable, as media coverage helps maintain notability on the subject. SwisterTwister talk 05:48, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This artist even has his music listed on BMI, I say it's a definite KEEP. Check this BMI link:

http://repertoire.bmi.com/writer.asp?fromrow=1&torow=25&keyname=MINASYAN%20EMIL%20L&querytype=WriterID&keyid=707301&page=1&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&affiliation=BMI&cae=350624191 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.13.69 (talk) 06:53, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment The verifiable career certainly seems prolific, and I note that WP:NMUSIC's WP:MUSICBIO, WP:COMPOSER, and WP:NMUSIC#Others offer criteria that may be used to define notability even if not the subject of significant coverage. Perhaps the article's defenders can show which he meets? Or perhaps they may be willing to work on improving the article off of mainspace? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 17:51, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Response to above I understand sir, I think the best one that he meets is WP:NMUSIC#Others (Has composed a number of melodies, tunes or standards used in a notable genre) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.13.69 (talk) 02:34, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He is awesome!

Delete. No evidence of the level of notability specified in WP:BAND. Please understand the difference between "notability" and mere popularity / talent / "awesomeness". Also please read WP:RS, WP:INDY, and related material on what sources are, or are not, useful for use in Wikipedia. Richwales (talk · contribs) 18:36, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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