Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edythe Lewis

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 14:45, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edythe Lewis

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Biography of a person with no strong notability claim and no quality sourcing. Neither of her notability claims, being the first black female disc jockey in Dayton, Ohio and later serving on Dayton's city council, are "inherently" notable for the purposes of securing inclusion in Wikipedia — but the only reference being cited here at all is a glancing namecheck of her existence in an article about Dayton's LGBTQ Pride parade, which is nowhere near enough coverage to get her over WP:GNG. Neither single-market local DJs nor city councillors are automatically presumed notable just because they exist, and people are still not handed an automatic "no sourcing required" freebie just because they claim to have been the first member of an equity group to accomplish an otherwise non-notable thing — but nothing here is substantive enough, or sourced well enough, to get her over the bar. Bearcat (talk) 16:51, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Gah. Another one I'm not sure about. Why are you doing this to me hahaha...okay, she's in the Dayton Area Broadcasters Hall of Fame. First black woman to host a radio show in Dayton. I'll add those, but I'm not ready to !vote. valereee (talk) 19:41, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete there are way too many possible firsts for any she has to propel her to notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:48, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I've added sources from news outside of Dayton. She passes GNG with what I have and I'd like to see Valereee's sources, too. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 05:17, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:05, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep With the addition of more news sources by Megalibrarygirl I'd say she passes GNG. Lirazelf (talk) 15:49, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Can Megalibrarygirl please explain how their added sources make it pass GNG? I just don't see significant coverage in large papers (The Cincinnati Enquirer source would work, but as far as I can see, it is only a passing mention. I just don't see any of the other sources (most of the others local to Dayton, or have small circulation) that make it pass. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 20:44, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Fix ping Megalibrarygirl Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 20:45, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Eddie891: For one thing, Dayton's already a pretty big Ohio town: It's the 6th largest city in Ohio and the 4th largest Metropolitan area in Ohio. So we're already talking about coverage in large newspapers. However, she was also noticed by other Ohio papers and one of the sources is AP which shows that there was an interest in syndicating that particular news source about her. Based on what's in the article and what I wrote above, I believe she passes GNG. Thanks! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:38, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As a former Daytonian, I have to chime in here -- at the time Lewis was locally notable, Dayton was a much larger city relatively than it is now. It was a rust belt town, so these days it's much smaller, but back then Dayton was an important industrial center. The Dayton Daily News was not an insignificant paper.valereee (talk) 23:57, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In the 1950 census, Dayton was the 44th largest US city. In the 2010 census, Cleveland was 45th and Dayton had lost over 40% of its peak population and was well outside the top 100. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 12:31, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Megalibrarygirl has convinced me. Keep Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:07, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep With the new addition of sources on the article now, it does passes for WP:GNG Kaizenify (talk) 03:26, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:HEY. Nice expansion. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 23:56, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in its current state it clearly passes GNG. I'd love to know what standard Eddie891 is talking about applying when they refer to "large papers" - could you link to something? She merited a bylined obit in Dayton Daily News (footnote 2). Done. --Krelnik (talk) 18:25, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Krelnik: maybe you missed it, but I voted keep and in fact any questions (not concerns) I had were answered. So I wasn't referring to anything, in the end. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 18:36, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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