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Kazi Azim Uddin College moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Kazi Azim Uddin College, is not suitable as written to remain published. An article needs more information and citations from reliable, independent sources to remain in the mainspace. Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
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- @Silikonz, hi i was in the process of creating it. It wasn't finished. please allow us at least one hour. thanks. X (talk) 18:01, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- If it's going to take more than a few minutes, then you shouldn't be working in main article space. You should instead work in draft or user space. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:23, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Forensic Magazine (February 16)
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- @CNMall41, hi can you review my latest one? Thanks. Hopefully this one passes. X (talk) 12:01, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- I am not sure which one is your "latest" one but if you can provide a link I will take a look. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:40, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- @CNMall41, here you go: Draft:Mufassil Islam.
- PS: I've had a discussion on the subject with another reviewer, and they asserted their evaluation of the page, and stated that the notability of the subject is affirmative. (User talk:TheAafi - Wikipedia)
- I hope you'd be kind enough to review the page. Thanks in advance. X (talk) 06:29, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- That draft is not submitted for review. Please submit if you wish to have me take a look. Also, if another reviewer already asserted notability, why would there be the need for me to look at it?--CNMall41 (talk) 09:48, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- @CNMall41, hi thanks for your response. "That draft is not submitted for review. Please submit if you wish to have me take a look". I'm confused, the draft is submitted for AFC review. if another reviewer already asserted notability, why would there be the need for me to look at it. Actually, that reviewer gave their evaluation on the page. And unfortunately, they refused to accept the submission despite it being suitable for main space in their evaluation, because the page is out of their interest, and they don't move drafts to mainspace that don't interest them.
- But hopefully you'd be kind enough to review the page. Thanks in advance.
- Best. X (talk) 18:18, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- You are correct. It is submitted for review. I apologize for the comment. I will pass on reviewing for a number of reasons but it is in queue so someone should be around to review it shortly. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:13, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- Unfortunately you cannot undo a ping. At this point, I would definitely be unwilling. --CNMall41 (talk) 08:13, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- @CNMall41, Sighs. Never mind. Wish you well. X (talk) 08:26, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- That draft is not submitted for review. Please submit if you wish to have me take a look. Also, if another reviewer already asserted notability, why would there be the need for me to look at it?--CNMall41 (talk) 09:48, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- I am not sure which one is your "latest" one but if you can provide a link I will take a look. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:40, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Haji Saifuddin Ahmed Milon (March 5)
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- states that "Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the general notability guideline. Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage are notable". The draft's subject is a major politician, he's a presidium member of the main opposition and one of the biggest political parties of the nation. He's been subject to numerous press coverage throughout his career. Would you reconsider this? Thanks. X (talk) 06:20, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Nomination of Minhaj Chowdhury for deletion
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Mufassil Islam moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Mufassil Islam, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
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- Given the sensitivity of this restoration, let's put it to review first, please. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:55, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- @UtherSRG, sure. Mobasshir Rahman (talk) 16:56, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- So, I've had discussions with 3 reviewers on the page. One of them is an admin (User:Cullen328). And they advised me to move it to main space, and a new page patroller will review it. And an AFC reviewer evaluated the page and were affirmative on the subject's notability. You may see the discussion here: Wikipedia:Teahouse.
- The page has received evaluation, and also as advised from another admin, I'm moving it to main space, and then a new page patroller will review it.
- Best. X (talk) 09:05, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- @UtherSRG, Hi as you're previously familiar with me and an admin, so I'll seek for your help on this. So, this user (@আফতাবুজ্জামান), has been arbitrarily tagging my pages stating that I have some sort of close connection to the subjects.
- I've replied to them on their talk page as well and will also state here: I do not have any sort of connection with any of the subjects whatsoever. I've created article on Mufassil Islam, as it fell under my radar, and I discussed with admins before creating it. Please see these discussions, links are given in the Talk:Mufassil Islam - Wikipedia. I noticed Minhaj Chowdhury on the list of awarded people by the U.S. Secretary of State, while creating an article on Muhammad Nur Khan, noticed him from this source. I also do not have any connection with Mehzeb Chowdhury either but noticed him on media.
- I'm requesting for a solution here over this dispute, and getting those tags removed as they are untrue. Thanks. X (talk) 08:00, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Nomination of Nabela Noor for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Organized Crime in Bangladesh
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Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Delwar Hossain Sayeedi. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.
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- Hey, read the edit summaries. I did not remove any sourced content per se, but these sources did not verify the claims. Just because there are a lot of links aligned, do not make the claims verified automatically, I invite you to check them yourself, which I did, and found the sources did not verify the claims. Then I partially removed those and rewrote some of those claims in other sections, that reflected objectivity. Please do not start an edit war. I'm a more experienced user than you. If you have complaints or would like to discuss or want me to further explain my actions, please say so. Thanks. X (talk) 14:39, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
- If you have concerns, raise it in the talk page and reach a consensus. I don't see any valid reasons in your edit summaries to remove all those sourced contents which is why they have been restored. I have checked the sources and they look fine. If you really are experienced, I assume you are aware of the WP:BRD and WP:DE policies. What I'm seeing is you are trying to claim ownership of the article by reverting all the other editors which is quite disruptive. LucrativeOffer (talk) 15:00, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
- Yes I'm aware of those policies. I'm not trying to claim the page. And I have not reverted edits by all other users. Re-check the edit history, you'd notice there have been constructive edits by several users, which I did not revert, even I brought back constructive edits by other users myself, again, because they were "constructive." This is a fact, that you seemed to have altered, and I put your assertions and accuracy into question. I explicitly said, I did not remove those entirely, but I rewrote those in the latter sections in an objective manner. I even added new sources along with new lines that describe the claims better. And I removed and rewrote factual error claims. Those were comments by his supporters, and sources reported that saying, X and Y commented/opinionated "this and that." These do not constitute facts, but comments, which can be added in the controversy/reaction section. X (talk) 15:06, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
- If you have concerns, raise it in the talk page and reach a consensus. I don't see any valid reasons in your edit summaries to remove all those sourced contents which is why they have been restored. I have checked the sources and they look fine. If you really are experienced, I assume you are aware of the WP:BRD and WP:DE policies. What I'm seeing is you are trying to claim ownership of the article by reverting all the other editors which is quite disruptive. LucrativeOffer (talk) 15:00, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Hi Xkalponik! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Delwar Hossain Sayeedi several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.
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Your recent editing history at Delwar Hossain Sayeedi shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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Prod of D'Arcy Keating
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- @Vinegarymass911, aah snap! Wasted efforts. Sighs. Although nice to see a more comprehensive version exist. By the way, shouldn't there be a redirect now? X (talk) 14:41, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Indeed. Since a redirect is viable, speedy deletion is not appropriate. I've gone ahead and made it a redir. Cheers! - UtherSRG (talk) 15:32, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Ramzan Miah
I had a look at Ramzan Miah as requested. I have made a few minor changes, but overall it looks OK. However, you must provide a reliable source for his date of birth, or remove that info. Regards, WWGB (talk) 04:54, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
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- @Moriwen, Hi there. Appreciate for addressing the issue. I've worked on it and it's fixed now. X (talk) 20:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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- @PoisonHK, Hold on for at least 30 mins. I'm an experienced editor and I directly create articles to mainspace, it hadn't even been 5 minutes. I was in the process of finishing it. It appears you're not a New Page Reviewer, hence you lack the knowledge regarding it. Next time, do not immediately move pages to mainspace, check the time, and how long it has been. X (talk) 08:35, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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- @PoisonHK, Hey can you please stop making edits to the page while I'm still not finished? Thank you!! X (talk) 08:55, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- You should add the {{editing}} template on top then. By the way, I have introduced links to your article from related articles in order to remove the orphan tag. PoisonHK Sapiens dominabitur astris (talk • contribs) 09:00, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Happy editing. X (talk) 09:02, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- You should add the {{editing}} template on top then. By the way, I have introduced links to your article from related articles in order to remove the orphan tag. PoisonHK Sapiens dominabitur astris (talk • contribs) 09:00, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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- @Esculenta, I'm not sure how it violates copyright (even the report shows it's clean), but I've made some adjustments furthermore. X (talk) 14:13, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- You can't just copy-paste the text from another source and change a few words; source material need to be substantially rewritten. Check out WP:Close paraphrasing for more info and guidelines. Esculenta (talk) 14:32, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Esculenta, The article is substantially rewritten IMO and I did not just copy-paste. When dealing with nomenclature articles, one can only rewrite too much, in lieu of mentioning/stating the facts and data. I can't just assert Original Research for the sake of uniqueness. The article drastically differs from the sources with headings, formats, etc, (I used multiple sources, and the facts are the same so it'd appear closely paraphrased to one or more particular sources). X (talk) 14:46, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Or rather, you gave the appearance of using multiple sources, when those sources weren't actually used. To wit: in the Dirinaria confusa article, the source Gasparyan et al. (doi:10.1017/S0024282917000226) is used as a "source" twice in the article. I checked this source, it does not even name the titled species anywhere in the article. So I suppose that example is more "citation fraud" then copyvio. Esculenta (talk) 15:02, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Esculenta, The source you mentioned, is the original source of the description. It is listed as the parent source in https://lichenportal.org/portal/taxa/index.php?tid=55034&taxauthid=1&clid=201 . Care to check, it lists: Nash, T.H., Ryan, B.D., Gries, C., Bungartz, F., (eds.) 2004. Lichen Flora of the Greater Sonoran Desert Region. Vol 2. and links the https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/lichenologist/article/abs/ramalina-europaea-and-r-labiosorediata-two-new-species-of-the-r-pollinaria-group-ascomycota-ramalinaceae-and-new-typifications-for-lichen-pollinarius-and-l-squarrosus/443C47B81BCEBE5C7B06F2257B561CC7 . So I use it as well since it is the parent source.
So be more careful before accusing someone of copy vio then of citation fraud. And another example of multiple citations is https://explorer.natureserve.org/Taxon/ELEMENT_GLOBAL.2.123051/Dirinaria_confusa . I used a handful of data from the as well.
And if I don't use the parent source, then how come I include facts? The mentioned parent source contains the original description of that particular species. What better source do you have to write on it? And where it is prohibited that you can't use majority of the facts from one source? X (talk) 15:12, 16 March 2024 (UTC)- No the source of the description you included from the webpage is Lichen Flora of the Greater Sonoran Desert Region; the source I mentioned has nothing to do with this species. You have claimed to use this source for the article, when it doesn't even mention the species in question (= citation fraud). Your final question is a non-sequitur, as I did not claim that the majority of the facts cannot come from one source. The fact that the Consortium of Lichen Herbaria website mistakenly links to a non-relevant publication suggests that WP:Competence is required for editing. Esculenta (talk) 15:17, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Esculenta Consortium of Lichen Herbaria is generally considered a reliable source so I did not suspect they'd have linked to unrelated citations. I copied and pasted it and it auto-links to that Cambridge source. You're appreciated for pointing that out. But first, you accuse of copyvio, then drift to "citation fraud". We both are trying to do build and contribute to the encyclopedia. The pointed issue is a human error and calling me citation "fraud" is unwarranted and offensive.Anyway, I'll now remove that source from this article along with 1-2 others I've used in. Take care. X (talk) 15:46, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- No the source of the description you included from the webpage is Lichen Flora of the Greater Sonoran Desert Region; the source I mentioned has nothing to do with this species. You have claimed to use this source for the article, when it doesn't even mention the species in question (= citation fraud). Your final question is a non-sequitur, as I did not claim that the majority of the facts cannot come from one source. The fact that the Consortium of Lichen Herbaria website mistakenly links to a non-relevant publication suggests that WP:Competence is required for editing. Esculenta (talk) 15:17, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Esculenta, The source you mentioned, is the original source of the description. It is listed as the parent source in https://lichenportal.org/portal/taxa/index.php?tid=55034&taxauthid=1&clid=201 . Care to check, it lists: Nash, T.H., Ryan, B.D., Gries, C., Bungartz, F., (eds.) 2004. Lichen Flora of the Greater Sonoran Desert Region. Vol 2. and links the https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/lichenologist/article/abs/ramalina-europaea-and-r-labiosorediata-two-new-species-of-the-r-pollinaria-group-ascomycota-ramalinaceae-and-new-typifications-for-lichen-pollinarius-and-l-squarrosus/443C47B81BCEBE5C7B06F2257B561CC7 . So I use it as well since it is the parent source.
- Or rather, you gave the appearance of using multiple sources, when those sources weren't actually used. To wit: in the Dirinaria confusa article, the source Gasparyan et al. (doi:10.1017/S0024282917000226) is used as a "source" twice in the article. I checked this source, it does not even name the titled species anywhere in the article. So I suppose that example is more "citation fraud" then copyvio. Esculenta (talk) 15:02, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Esculenta, The article is substantially rewritten IMO and I did not just copy-paste. When dealing with nomenclature articles, one can only rewrite too much, in lieu of mentioning/stating the facts and data. I can't just assert Original Research for the sake of uniqueness. The article drastically differs from the sources with headings, formats, etc, (I used multiple sources, and the facts are the same so it'd appear closely paraphrased to one or more particular sources). X (talk) 14:46, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- You can't just copy-paste the text from another source and change a few words; source material need to be substantially rewritten. Check out WP:Close paraphrasing for more info and guidelines. Esculenta (talk) 14:32, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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- sure give me 20 minutes. X (talk) 14:52, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Dcotos, The article is now substantially rewritten. My bad, I should have processed it in a word processor beforehand directly publishing in Wiki. I was intending to rewrite and expand in real time, hence put a "being created" tag on it. But I understand there seemed to be some copyvio from a particular source. It's just when dealing with nomenclature items, there's not much room for "totally rephrasing", as facts tend to be the same in all the sources.I'd be more careful from now and will process offline before putting directly into wiki.
If you feel a revision deletion is needed, please do so.Thank you for your help in the article as well. X (talk) 15:13, 17 March 2024 (UTC)- Hi,@Xkalponik you did nice work! but next time do't copy paste any content As a general rule, do not copy text from other sources. Doing so usually constitutes both a copyright violation and plagiarism as per WP:Copy-paste. Thank you Dcotos (talk) 15:19, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Dcotos, The article is now substantially rewritten. My bad, I should have processed it in a word processor beforehand directly publishing in Wiki. I was intending to rewrite and expand in real time, hence put a "being created" tag on it. But I understand there seemed to be some copyvio from a particular source. It's just when dealing with nomenclature items, there's not much room for "totally rephrasing", as facts tend to be the same in all the sources.I'd be more careful from now and will process offline before putting directly into wiki.
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- @Ipigott, Hey! Thanks for the invite. Snap, I thought I was already officially registered. You left a message on my talk page previously 1 year ago. Since then I started creating articles from the Redlist. I've recently started to participate in #1day1woman and listed my articles there in daily section as well as the weekly section. I plan to continue this throughout the year. At least 1 bio per week. Btw I've now formally registered via the link you sent. And I'd also like to join the newsletters of the project. I'm open to any collaboration or anything I can help with. Also, feel free to share any of your suggestions or tips.Thank you. Have a great day. PS: (I admire your work a lot). X (talk) 07:50, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Hey when attempting to review this article I realized that I was a bit out of my depth and I don't think that I could provide a good review to Wikipedia's standards. Is there any way the article could be reviewed by someone else? Qwexcxewq (talk) 01:46, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
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- According to WP:GAN/I#N4a, since the reviewer has not yet made any substantive comments on the review page, the reviewer can request a Wikipedia:G6 speedy deletion, then the nomination should reappear in the nominations page. Esculenta (talk) 14:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
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Hello! Your DYK nomination is effectively good to go! As you requested, I've given my thoughts on the lead image but am left indecisive. You can choose which suits you best. Best wishes, ~~lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 11:30, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Lol1VNIO, Hi, thanks for the review and the edits. Re the images, I think the colored image will be more appealing to a mass audience, although the black and white one sticks with me. As you mentioned, the black one seems to have more details that look interesting.
Yer fond of me lobster aint' ye? I seen it - yer fond of me lobster! Say it! Say it. [pun intended].Yeah, let's go B&W. X (talk) 13:02, 7 April 2024 (UTC)- I don't have to say nothin'. ~~lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 13:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC)