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DYK for Stalingrad class battlecruiser

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Contest update

Well, it's just 1 day until the contest begins, so I thought I'd check in with everyone and make sure you're all ready to go. First I'd like everyone to check out the main contest page and read over the rules and the scoring system. If you have any final questions or concerns, make them known on the talk page. Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Contest/History/2009 is the scoreboard that will be updated, you can watchlist it. Check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Contest/Submissions which shows how your submission page should look. Another example is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Contest/Submissions Example, and your personal page should be listed at the footer of the page, which is also at Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Contest/Users. Again, take any questions to the contest talk page.

Good luck! - Trevor MacInnis ^contribs 21:00, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

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Banners

Sure no problem I will try and knock that out tonight. --Kumioko (talk) 23:19, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up

I thought a bot attached the banners. I'll just "rob" the ones on Soden and stash them on my User page in my tool kit, and add them henceforth.

Also, I thought the one para, one cite requirement was just a quirk of AustralianRupert's. I've been working on the principle that every time I changed sources, I added a cite. I figured that anyone who wanted to double-check would find it handy. It seems to me that flicking back repeatedly into the same source material would be monotonous and a pain in the derriere.

Georgejdorner (talk) 22:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Took me a while to get used to the idea myself, but that's the game you've gotta play if you want assessments higher than start. My rule of thumb is one cite at the end of a paragraph if everything came from one source, however many different pages, but if I use one source for the first sentence, another for the second and the original source for the third sentence then I have to cite three times. See WP:CITE for all the formal rules, but be advised that that covers the minimum acceptable standard and that B-class standards are higher. I haven't really looked, but are you aware that you can consolidate your cites if you give them a name? I only learned this about a month ago, but if you have a cite of Roberts, p. 230 you can give it a name like ref name=r>Roberts, p. 230</ref> then all of your subsequent cites can be shortened to ref name=r/>? I've dropped the leading angle bracket to allow everything to display correctly. If that confuses you then you can take a look at the code for my Stalingrad class battlecruiser article and see it in action. It works real well if you've got software that allows for multiple clipboards. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:25, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Just butting in, a message for both of you: what Sturmvogel says is pretty much right on the money. We haven't interacted much yet but now I've assessed articles by both of you in the past 24 hours, pls feel free to ask me for any advice on citations - though it looks like you're getting the hang of it pretty well... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 02:10, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:Il-40front.jpg

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I just added a fair-use rationale to the image, everything should be ok. Parsecboy (talk) 17:26, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, man. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:31, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

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Actually there is a rationale on the page if you'll look closer. I copied it right off the page discussing fair-use rationales. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:29, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Ilyushin Il-16

Just interested to now why you blanked the page at Talk:Ilyushin Il-16 to remove the aviation project banner. As a member of the project you should be adding it to relevant articles not removing it? MilborneOne (talk) 17:02, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm not ready to have the article assessed yet. When I'm done writing the article I'll add all the appropriate banners and B-class checklists to the talk page. You jumped the gun with your edits, appreciated as much as they are, as I wasn't expecting any edits until I put up the banner and made it more visible. Probably should have put up an underconstruction tag, but I'm not used to people finding my articles before I'm done writing them. I don't have the Nemecek book, I'll drop you a line next time I need some specs as Gordon's book doesn't give them in much detail for the prototypes. Unless, of course, you find them on your own ;-) Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:09, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

OK I am not involved in the assessment process just making sure that the other project members are aware of the article. So not adding the banner to stop it being assessed is not something that occurs to me, but I suspect if you have the under construction tag on the article it will not get assessed. No problem if you want a look up in Nemecek. MilborneOne (talk) 18:59, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

My normal habit is not even to create the talk page till I'm done with the article to avoid premature assessments and edits, but I gather that some people track new articles to flag them properly as most new users aren't even aware of the various projects, etc. But I would like to suggest that you add a more complete project banner when you do so to make things easier on people like me who do assess articles. Stuff like the B-class check list, project and if an infobox or picture is needed would be most helpful. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:07, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

OK I will look into adding the B-class check list, I always add an infobox if I see one is missing when I add the project banner. MilborneOne (talk) 19:25, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks in advance. I also like to add the missing picture one as well, but that's just me. I've got no problems using no-fair-use images if that's all I can find. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:39, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Contest scoring change

I've realized there may be an issue with the scoring system, and I have a solution, which I've explained here. Feedback is requested. - Trevor MacInnis ^contribs 23:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Ilyushin Il-8

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 05:21, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK Hook

Please do not remove hooks from DYK as you did here. Thanks. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:31, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Odd, that must have happened when my computer froze and I had to reboot in the middle of nominating. Firefox had saved most of my nom and I didn't get a notice of an edit conflict. Weird. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 09:34, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Tiger II GA

I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to GA review Tiger II, it's my first! Ideally I would like to improve it to A and/or FA. Do you have any advice - like asking for a general Peer review first, or finding more source material, etc. ? Hohum (talk) 21:11, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

It can't hurt to put it up for a peer review. You're already using the best and most reliable sources in Jentz and Schneider, but it couldn't hurt to look at Spielberger's book on the Tigers and there's another one that's a reprint of the British report for which I forget the title. It might be worthwhile looking at the other AFV A or GA class articles, not that there are many, to see how those editors handled things to give you ideas for improvements. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:39, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you tidy up the transcluded GA review from the Tiger II talk page? It's causing problems with someone trying to add comments - which are getting added to the GA page instead of the talk page - I have no idea how to do this. Hohum (talk) 23:42, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I think all that was needed was a new section. That editor got confused and had to go to the GA review to post his comments; if he'd posted them underneath the GA review template on the talk page, I think he'd have been fine.Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:53, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah ok. I sort of got the impression that reviews were normally "closed" somehow Hohum (talk) 23:57, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I'll double-check, but I think that they're still open, unlike the A and FA reviews which are definitely closed when done. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:12, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

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Milhist August Contest

Hi Sturmvogel. I just wanted to pop in and thank you for scoring the articles for this month's contest. I know you had an agenda, but your efforts were, and are, still appreciated nonetheless. :) Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 12:12, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

It needed to be done (shrug) and I didn't have anything else to do ;-) But there is one thing that I'd like you to check. Kumioko had a featured list candidate that I didn't assess and it had still hadn't been done on the score page after Roger posted the results. Can you check to see if he got his deserved points and update things appropriately? Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:07, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Assessed the list as B-Class, and updated his tally accordingly. Thanks, mate. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 06:33, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 08:03, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I'll second that; thank you very much for doing all that work!

Have you considered running for project coordinator, incidentally? As long as you're willing to do this sort of behind-the-scenes work anyways, you might as well get a shiny badge to go with it. ;-) Kirill ^[talk] [pf] 12:12, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Kirill. IMHO, you'd make a great coordinator—much better than I am. :-) —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 17:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I dunno, there's so much that I don't know about how things are done behind the scenes. I'll think about it. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:24, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Ilyushin Il-20 (1948)

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DYK for Ilyushin Il-40

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DYK for Ilyushin Il-22 (1947)

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DYK for Ilyushin 18

Please see the discussion, seems your hook isn't interesting enough but I think there may be something else you could use. Mjroots (talk) 17:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

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Going offline for three weeks

Okay. I have, I believe, corrected the information to a more acceptable version. I don't have any Bulgarian figures (none that I trust anyway), so I'm hoping you would do as you said and clear it up to move this thing on a little. Dapi89 (talk) 11:12, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Contest Dept

Just a brief note to remind all entrants that, under the new arrangements, they are encouraged to self-score (but not self-assess) their own entries.

There's also a discussion about a new points scale over on the Coordinators talk page. This deals with some of the anomalies raised elsewhere and as ever comments there would be very welcome.  Roger Davies ^talk 13:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

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DYK for Tupolev Tu-14

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DYK problem

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DYK for Ilyushin Il-18 (1947)

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DYK for Ilyushin Il-32

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Awards time!

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		First Place in the September 2009 round of the Aviation Contest
		Congratulations, you have received 1st place in the September 2009 Aviation Contest, with 204.3 points including a contest leading 323 B-Class Checklists completed! Trevor MacInnis contribs 04:02, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations! You hold onto the PeMBoInAwMeSPAK for a second month, and for coming in first again...

		First Place in the October 2009 round of the Aviation Contest
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GA Status on Japanese aircraft carrier Akagi

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GA Status on Japanese aircraft carrier Kaga

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Mig 3 GA

Just to let you know that I am reviewing the article you nominated. Should be finished in a few days. Ajpralston1 (talk) 14:39, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Do 17

Hello, I see you are back.

I can't find any figures for the Bulgarian Dornier fleet. The IP that brought up some issues has not returned with any figures. Is this going to be a problem? Dapi89 (talk) 11:42, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I have one of the sources that he referenced. I'll write that and some new Croatian material as soon as I get a chance and pass it. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 12:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I checked. It is all okay. Dapi89 (talk) 15:31, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Dapi89 (talk) 16:47, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Did You Know problem

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DYK for Invincible class battlecruiser

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Hubert Latham

Hello Sturmvogel, Could you give me some advice or an explanation please. On the 19th of October you reviewed Hubert Latham as C class and the only failure was the references section which included over 50 in-line citations. Why did this fail? How can it be improved / fixed? Regards Chienlit (talk) 14:26, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I've added cite needed tags in places that kept you from getting a B-class rating for what was a very nice article. Add cites for those statements and I'll be happy to upgrade your article to B status.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:34, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Done. :) The article's main contributors, Samblob and Shallerking, have reworked both {fact| areas and further developed the page. Thanks for your prompt help. Chienlit (talk) 07:25, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Upgraded to B-class.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:54, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks Chienlit (talk) 16:47, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Tupolev Tu-8

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DYK for Charomskiy M-40

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DYK for Charomskiy ACh-30

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Request

Hi, I noticed you write a lot of battleship articles. I'm currently working on the Bellerophon class battleship article for the OMT project. I need help with some information. I see that you have book references related to costs of battleships, and battlecrusiers. I've looked all over the web for the costs info and can't find it. You seem to have sources on it; could you take a look at the article, and see what you can do with it. Any help would be appreciated. -Regards  Burningview  ✉ 16:43, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I did some minor clean-up, but I don't really have much on the British BBs other than Conway's. But I've requested a copy of Burt's book of British BBs of WWI through Inter-Library Loan which might have some cost data. OTOH the guy who started the Invincible class battlecruiser article before me found cost data in Parkes's book on British BBs and in Brassey's Naval Annual so you might try and get a hold of them. You'll probably have to borrow Parkes from somewhere as it's pretty expensive, but maybe you can find Brassey's on Google Books since it's so old.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:28, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the help.  Burningview  ✉ 17:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Some links: [1] [2] [3] [4]

A price: [5] Cheers, —Ed (talk • contribs) 22:57, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Merchant ships in convoys

Please have a look at the SS Empire Bell article and let me know if you think this is an improvement in wording re convoys. If so, I'll reword the other articles. Mjroots (talk) 10:57, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's fine. It reads much better.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

copy editing and spaces

I have trouble moving stuff from word to wiki. Any suggestions about how to eliminate spaces and weird codes? Auntieruth55 (talk) 16:36, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm a Mac guy, so I really can't say, but perhaps dropping your text into Notepad or some similar type of text editor as an intermediate step might help?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:41, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

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hope you can help :-) —Ed (talk • contribs) 05:58, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations

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		For your excellent work in the October 2009 WikiProject Military History Writing Contest, during which you amassed a total of 96 points from 24 articles, and in doing so earning first place, I am pleased to present you with the WikiChevrons! Well done, and keep up the good work! Parsecboy (talk) 17:39, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Tupolev TB-3

Not to be a pain, but Tupolev TB-3 really ought to go through an A-Class review before being demoted; we don't want to encourage the idea that individual editors can simply bypass the A-Class rating system of their own volition, I think. Kirill ^[talk] [pf] 12:52, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't aware that there was such a thing. Then, sure, let's put it through one.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:47, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Yakovlev Yak-2

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Well done .... thx from the wiki and Victuallers (talk) 13:56, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: Bellerophon

Thanks, much appreciated. I'll be busy in my real life this upcoming week so I won't be able to do much right now, but I will work on it sparingly.  Burningview  ✉ 23:26, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for HMS Indomitable (1907)

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DYK nom for Polikarpov TIS

Hi there. Could you please check my comment at Template talk:Did you know#Polikarpov TIS and see whether it'd be possible to add a footnote in the article for the facts in my proposed, less-technical alternative hook? Regards SoWhy 13:36, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Polikarpov TIS

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DYK for Polikarpov TIS

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Soviet cruiser Kirov

Hi. Sorry if I caused you irritation over this article. The comments were made in good faith but I'm perturbed that I missed some details - senior moments. Part of my concern was that brevity of info shouldn't always debar promotion if the article is as complete as possible and covers significant aspects. On that score, I read somewhere that Kirov was involved in successful actions in preventing German naval access to the Gulf of Riga. Are you able to verify this?

Folks at 137 (talk) 21:53, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

You might be confusing her with her sister Soviet cruiser Maxim Gorky which had her bow blow off by a mine at the beginning of the war. The Chronology of the War at Sea is pretty complete for every combat and it doesn't show Kirov doing anything other than covering some minelaying sorties by destroyers in the Irben Strait, no surface action against German forces. Although some of the destroyers were engaged by German S-boats when Kirov wasn't supporting them. But I'll add this as I should have caught it earlier.

I agree with you that brevity isn't necessarily a reason to keep an article from being promoted, provided that all reasonable sources have been consulted. Kirov and some of her sisters simply didn't have an eventful war with which to bulk up an article.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:08, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Henry Petre

Tks for the GA review/pass mate. cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:19, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Nothing to thank me for, you earned it.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:20, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

RAE Hurricane

I see you have put a tag at the end of the last sentence of the first para in Design and development; which bit of that sentence needed support? There are several statements within it. Cheers,TSRL (talk) 16:31, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

The bit about the competitions is the non-obvious fact. Remember one cite per paragraph is a pretty good rule of thumb. It would be nice have some pictures of these birds. Can you find some and upload them under fair use on the english wiki?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:35, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

There is one now of the Zephyr; I put it up just after your last visit! Perhaps I'm over-cautious about copyright, but they are quite hard find, especially civilians, as crown copyright images are rare. I'll have another look at fair use. When you say the bit about the competitions, do you mean confirm which aircraft was at which Lympne? If so, MilbourneOne's new Lympne light aircraft trials should cover that.TSRL (talk) 17:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

It still needs a cite saying that it flew in in the 1923 competition. Another Wiki article cannot be used as a source. I used to be shy about uploading pictures myself, but I've gotten over that now that I've learned a few tricks. See File:YakovlevYak-1000.jpg which shows everything you need to upload a picture you've grabbed off the web. Especially the all-important fair use statement at the bottom.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:19, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

No problem with the cite; I'll use Flight. OK to remove the tag when done? Thanks for the image, or rather the info on images.TSRL (talk) 17:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I'll upgrade it to B-class whenever you add the cite. And feel free to ask questions about any image issues.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:28, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Cited. Thanks on both counts,TSRL (talk) 17:34, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Yakovlev Yak-140

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DYK nomination of Yakovlev Yak-8

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I left a note at DYK. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 09:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

OMT status

When updating the status of articles, please do not forget about the section where we are keeping a running tally of the numbers of FA/A/GA articles. Thanks, -MBK₀₀₄ 20:32, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that; I'd forgotten that we're tracking the GAs.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:34, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I see that you are currently going through and reassessing quite a few articles. Please remember to update the tables by nation once you have finished if any fall under the scope of OMT. -MBK₀₀₄ 22:06, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I haven't forgotten, but just haven't gotten to it yet since I've been doing my usual round of assessments before I launch into either HMS New Zealand or another couple of monitors.

DYK for G-5 class motor torpedo boat

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DYK for Yakovlev Yak-140

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DYK nomination of Mikoyan-Gurevich I-250

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DYK for Gorgon class monitor

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DYK nomination of Indefatigable class battlecruiser

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Parnall Puffin

Hi: I've added a ref to the Pintail fin etc (silly omission on my part) and reworded the end of the following para. I was really trying to remind the reader what the inverted tail was for. That done, I've removed the flags which I hope is OK.TSRL (talk) 20:00, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

That's fine, I almost moved your cites from early in the paragraph to the end as I expected that the same source was used throughout, but thought that it might have been a bit presumptuous on my part. Remember you only need one cite at the end of a paragraph if the same source is used throughout. I'll go back and review the article again.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:05, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Mackinolty

That's the quickest GA review turnaround I've ever had, so mant tks - I'll get round to doing one or two myself shortly... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:40, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't much for me to criticize, mate; corrected a few typos and that's about it. You'd already done all the hard work. That's why I don't value GA very much as a well-written B-class will breeze through the process. Besides, I was looking for a WWI review to gets point for ;-) Actually I'd be obliged if you could take a look at my Soviet cruiser Kirov article. One guy started it about a month ago, without going through the full GAN process, and it's stalled, despite one prod from me to remind him. I'd just like it put to bed.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:14, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I'll add Kirov to the Pe-8 review I've already signed up for since Dana Boomer stole Pearl Corkhill from under my nose (just kidding if you're reading this, Dana...!) Mind you, Storm, if you could start doing some late-Imperial (i.e. WWI-vintage) Russian articles to balance the Soviet ones, I'd be even quicker off the mark to review... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:09, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't have any sources for Imperial Russian aircraft other than Gunston's Encyclopedia of Russian Aircraft, which I don't think is enough for a B-class by itself, so I'm pretty much limited to WWI ships or artillery. I'll have some more of those for y'all shortly, but they're more likely to be English or French. But don't forget stuff like 7th Infantry Division's ACR or FAC, I forget which, which did fight in WWI and will get you some review points.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:54, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of BL 18 inch Mk I naval gun

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Please check suggested elimination of the numbers. This nom might go as a lead soon. Materialscientist (talk) 07:08, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

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Kudos to you, sir, for this excellent article that was both informative and pleasant to read! — Kralizec! (talk) 20:08, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very kindly, sir!--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:50, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

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DYK for HMS Gorgon (1914)

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DYK for Polikarpov VIT-2

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DYK nomination of Polikarpov NB

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Same issue with the hook for Italian monitor Faà di Bruno as well. MuZemike 20:21, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Mikoyan-Gurevich DIS

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Dutch 1913 battleship proposal

Hi, I've just finished expanding this article to incorporate more information on the various proposals for the ships. I was unable to find any information about which 14 inch guns would have been fitted, but these were definitely specified by the Dutch Government. Could you please review the article and consider if it now meets the B class criteria? Thanks, Nick-D (talk) 00:56, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that Nick-D (talk) 21:42, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Polikarpov

I posted a concise translation of the Russian article on Polikarpov's twin-engined at User:Outline_of_an_editor/box. Note that the authors don't really make distinctions between VIT-2 and SPB (or SBP), for them naming is just a reflection of the politics inside the industry. The -D suffix (as in SPB (D)) appears in the text only once, when they mention "Polikarpov's men working on SPB(D) design leaving for Mikoyan", FWIW, I did not even bother to include the tidbit. Outline of an editor (talk) 08:22, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Polikarpov NB

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DYK for Italian monitor Faà di Bruno

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DYK problem

Just one little thing: T:TDYK#Courbet class battleship. Ucucha 02:05, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

and T:TDYK#Polikarpov SPB (D) :-D Materialscientist (talk) 04:38, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Polikarpov SPB (D)

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DYK for HMS Indefatigable (1909)

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Good Topic!

Congratulations on achieving GA for all four articles on the Invincible-class (Invincible class battlecruiser, HMS Invincible (1907), HMS Indomitable (1907), HMS Inflexible (1907)). A trip to WP:GTC is in order... (see these topics to get the formatting correct: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Maritime_warfare_task_force/Operation_Majestic_Titan#Featured_Topics) -MBK₀₀₄ 04:12, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Way ahead of you; I just need to clean things up a bit for consistency, etc. before I submit it.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 05:51, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Any update on this? The articles do not need to be perfect, and it would be nice to have another GT before the end of the year (remember that the nominations take 14 days). -MBK₀₀₄ 06:26, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

My time right now is rather constrained, but I should be able to make the necessary revisions this week.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:14, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, needed less work than I'd remembered so I went ahead and nominated them.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:22, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Courbet class battleship

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re: November Contest

All 55 of the articles entered for November are down in the "Log" section where they should be, so there is no problem there. The only issue was that the "Contest entries" and "Scoreboard" sections had merged together, as Auntieryth55 entered some articles for December but left a typo in the table. I have just fixed this, so it's all good now. ;-) Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 23:48, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Polikarpov I-3

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FlightAware

Hello Sturmvogel 66, I'm Airplaneman. I have seen your article assessment and creation work at the Aviation contest, and it looks like you are quite experienced. I am, on the other hand, new to all of this. May you please take a look at FlightAware and see if it's ready for B class? I took it from start to C class by citing more 3rd party sources, but would like a second opinion before going ahead with promoting to B class. Thank you, Airplaneman ^talk 20:10, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I've added fact tags in the places that need citations to minimally qualify it as a B-class. One cite per paragraph is a good rule to follow. These sorts of articles are hard to write as you need to avoid use of the company's press releases as the major source for the article and it's is often hard to find outside descriptions/assessments of the company and its activities.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:30, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Regards, Airplaneman ^talk 19:58, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

GA Review

Sturmvogel, as you can see, the timespan from GA nomination to GA review can be two months or more. For DYK review, I added 16 inline citations to USS Borie (DD-215) in a single morning. Getting enough inline citations for GA review of that article, as well as USS Enterprise (CVN-65) and USS Tennessee (BB-43), will only take me a few days. Skoal. Phoenix and Winslow (talk) 20:14, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Great, but you might want to see exactly how to nominate an article; there's more to it than just adding them to the list. Thing about it is that they can be reviewed the minute that you submit them, so it's best to have them completed before you submit them since people will review them in any order. A few days one way or another don't matter.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:50, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of HMS New Zealand (1911)

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File:IndefArmorDiagram.jpg

Hi Sturmvogel. Could you please delete this image forthwith, as the free-use rationale certainly doesn't cover a recent drawing such as this. I heard from John Roberts this morning that he was not impressed to find this drawing of his on the Indefatigable class page. Regards, --Simon Harley (talk | library | book reviews) 14:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello

Do You mind if I copy and edit some of the beautiful symbols of your personal page? :) I am not able at all in doing what You did... I You dont like it, I delete them...

regards from Roma --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 10:00, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:05, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK for HMS New Zealand (1911)

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Great work on this article! Very well done, sir! — Kralizec! (talk) 19:50, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

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Mikoyan-Gurevich I-250 GA Review

Hey, I would like to give you a review for the Mikoyan-Gurevich I-250 article, but it doesn't seem like the subpage has been made... let me know you've got it ready to go! -SidewinderX (talk) 20:07, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

All you need to do is to click on the "follow this link" on the GA head of the article's talk page to create the subpage.Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:35, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Congrats!

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		For your successful nomination of Invincible-class battle cruiser Good Topic I hereby award you the WikiProject Ships Barnstar. Keep up the good work! TomStar81 (Talk) 23:51, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Corrected after MBK pointed out I erred in singling you out as the first. Silly me :) Sorry about the mix up there, but my comments still stand insofar as your GT is concerned. Well Done! TomStar81 (Talk) 01:42, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Pfitzner Flyer

Thanks for starting the Pfitzner Flyer B-class checklist so quickly. I have gone through the references and citations and made some additions/changes. If more needs to be done, please let me know - if and when you can make the time. Cheers. --TraceyR (talk) 11:47, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Your changes were enough to raise its assessement to B-class. Good work.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:42, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Now I can get back to the Patrie! --TraceyR (talk) 20:43, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Polikapov I-5

Why are you removing perfectly good references, which were used in writing the aricle, from the Bibliography?Nigel Ish (talk) 10:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Because a better and more complete version was used instead? Are you talking about the Wings of Fame article?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:19, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes - but since you seem to own the article now I won't comment on the issue again or edit the article.Nigel Ish (talk) 20:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't own anything. If you've got more or better information, feel free to add it to the article with citations.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:11, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Aviation article for assessment

Hi mate, could I trouble you to swing by the Aviation Assessment page when you get a chance, there's an article I've got there that's been awaiting B-Class assessment for a couple of weeks now... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 16:08, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Done, nice job. One question posted on the talk page.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:27, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Tks mate - replied. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 03:56, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Aquidabã

Just a friendly reminder, you've kept Brazilian battleship Aquidabã under a GA on-hold review by you since 30 October. -MBK₀₀₄ 16:33, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Damn it, I totally forgot about that article. Feel free to fail it; if I thought I was short of time before, I'm at a loss to describe my RL now. :) —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 00:51, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

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May interest you?

I saw English Navy and thought of you and the BCs. Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Scheduling a DYK date. —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 00:51, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip, Ed, I can probably do a couple before then, probably a BC and a monitor to vary the subject matter a bit, although I'd planned on diving into Russian BBs to take advantage of a book that I just got.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:06, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

SS Irish Oak

Thank you for reviewing the article towards GA status. Could you possibly expand a bit on what needs doing to meet GA status. Mjroots (talk) 18:12, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Did You Know question

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Battle of Imbros

Sorry about that, i've had tried looking for Big Gun Monitors at several local libraries to no avail. It seems like an interesting book though and i plan on ordering it from Amazon soon. I had just been waiting for Christmas to end first.XavierGreen (talk) 04:31, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

No need to spend money if it's not a core interest of yours. Inter-Library Loan is generally free, unless borrowing books from certain libraries, and they can get almost any book in the country for you. Talk to your local public library about ILL and they can guide you through the steps necessary to order it.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 04:38, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Polikarpov I-6

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Materialscientist (talk) 11:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Honeywell F124

Hey, I tried to address your concerns about the Honeywell F124 article (trying to get it up to B-class). Do you mind taking another look at it? I left a couple comments on the talk page. Thanks! -SidewinderX (talk) 13:35, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for going back and taking a look!

In an unrelated note, I've responded to your comments over at the CFM56 A-class review. Take a look! Thanks - SidewinderX (talk) 12:51, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

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HMS Lord Clive

Hi, Sturmvogel:

I have just finished assessing (and passing, at B-level) the article HMS Lord Clive (1915). In doing so, I made some minor edits, mostly fixing typos and cutting out some unnecessary words; you may wish to review my work to be sure that I have not made some colossal blunder. Feel free to revert if you must; it will not alter my assessment.

One problem remains, not of your making, but it irks me enough that I have to comment on it. In the section on armament, two antiaircraft guns are mentioned; one of 40 millimeters, the other of 47 millimeters. The problem then arises with use of the {{convert}} template, which converts both of the figures to 2 inches (40 mm is more like 1.57 in, 47 mm about 1.85 in). My guess is that almost nobody but a pedantic physicist will ever notice, but what the hey, I am a pedantic physicist. I think that there is some cure for this, but I am not familiar enough with the template and do not have the time right now to learn. That is why I leave the problem on your doorstep.

Cheers, PKKloeppel (talk) 03:21, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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HMS Lion- comments on trimming the hook at DYK page.

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DYK for Petlyakov Pe-3

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DYK Question

I noticed that you seem to be pretty experienced in the realm of "DYK", so I figured I'd shoot you a question. I've got a DYK that has gotten the checkmark in the template talk page; is there anything else I need to do for it to find its way to the front page? Or will the powers that be take care of it once its been approved? -SidewinderX (talk) 16:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Nope, they'll run it whenever they feel like it. My Pe-3 DYK was from several weeks ago, IIRC. You can check the upcoming queue of DYKs, although I forget exactly how to do that.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:21, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Dear Sturmvogel - can you please move the name of the Article on Battleship Gangut (1888) back to a battleship from a coast defence ship - All Russian language sources (I am Russian) refer to her as a battleship (броненосец) rather than as a coast defence ship (Броненосец береговой обороны) - thank you for your work

Please sign your comments, I find it disturbing that I don't know who you are. But, no, I won't move it back. She may have been termed a battleship in the Imperial Navy, but in reality she was a coast defense battleship, just like the General Ushakov-class ships and a number of French ships of the period.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:01, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Re:Russian clean-up and British English

I would be glad to help with Russian, don't hesitate to ask. As to English, I only try to keep consistent spelling, whichever it is; I actually prefer US spelling for myself. It is natural to keep UK spelling or British articles, but otherwise it is a matter of WP:ENGVAR. Notes like "Russian topics should be written in British English" are entirely baseless. Materialscientist (talk) 23:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

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GA Review of Max-Hellmuth Ostermann

Thanks for starting the GA review of Ostermann. I wonder if the review is still in progress and if so what your concerns are? The pre-formatted assessment list has an unresolved link which leads me to this question. Thanks MisterBee1966 (talk) 08:03, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I left a note on the review page. Unfortunately my sources do not reveal much about his personal life. MisterBee1966 (talk) 13:24, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing MisterBee1966 (talk) 10:51, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Russian battleship Dvenadsat Apostolov

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Materialscientist (talk) 12:01, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Nimitz class aircraft carrier

Sturm, since the nominator has removed the article from the GAN page, you can go ahead and fail the review since he has also opened a peer review for the article. -MBK₀₀₄ 22:41, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Also, when you are cross-listing reviews to MILHIST, please follow the standard MILHIST instructions as well for consistency. There was some clean-up I had to do associated with your review for Petlyakov Pe-8. -MBK₀₀₄ 22:59, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that; I knew I'd done something wrong, but couldn't figure out what. Do we need to review the instructions to spell things out a bit more clearly or was I just a little more thick-headed than usual? At any rate, thanks for cleaning that up for me.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:29, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

It is probably a combination of both, take a look at what I did: [6][7][8][9][10], also, it would probably be better to use the MILHIST templates for announcing open reviews instead of hand-writing out those notices for reasons of canvassing since you are the nominator. -MBK₀₀₄ 23:44, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Red Tail Project/GA1

Have you completed Talk:Red Tail Project/GA1? If a fail is your final decision, you need to update Talk:Red Tail Project and remove it from WP:GAC. If not, you need to make further commentary.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:09, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I fixed the problem in the lead myself. Add the missing citation and I'll pass it.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:04, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Done.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:15, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your review of Samuel Escue Tillman

It's the first article I've taken from scratch to GA. I must admit I feel a little like the Jonas brother the day after: "Is that all there is to it?" I'm trying to better understand the Good Article process well-enough so I feel competent to review some of these. Would you be willing to explain why my article was a quick pass? Maybe mentor me through a couple of reviews? BusterD (talk) 16:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Quite simply you met all the criteria. You write well so quality of prose wasn't an issue and your lead summarized the entire article, which is often a problem. You were generally compliant with the MOS, so that wasn't an issue. All of your paragraphs had at least one cite in each and everything was verifiable so you didn't do any OR and you met all the reference requirements. You covered his life in a fair amount of detail, including his personal life, which is often a problem with biographies, in a neutral manner. You had a good picture with no licensing issues, nobody was engaging in an edit war, etc. In short, a good article.

The best way to learn how people judge the requirements is to go through GA reviews for various articles as everybody interprets them a bit differently. Taking a look through the articles currently undergoing review and comparing the article with the comments is probably the easiest thing to do right now. But you could go to the list of good articles, then to their talk pages and click on "Good article nominee" in the GA header and read that review. Doing this would probably be the best way to learn how to do a GA review. If you want to do one yourself I can offer my own comments as well if you'd like, but I'd suggest that you read a bunch of reviews first to get your feet wet and then do one yourself. They're really not so hard; you just need to learn what to look for. And everybody does theirs a bit differently. Forex, I tend not to worry so much about the niggling MOS issues like hyphens vs. n-dashes vs. m-dashes, etc., whereas some people are demons for that sort of thing. Just remember that a GA review is not as strict as an A-class review or much less a FA review.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:38, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I've been doing some reading; the Tillman nom was a chance to validate my sense of the GA requirements. My feeling was that the article just barely passed content requirements but was quite solid on the mechanics. I think Tillman's a subject worthy of taking to FA class. If you're game, I'd like to take a crack at reviewing George H. Steuart (Brigadier General) (which is well within my comfort range for sources and general knowledge). If you'd agree to look over my shoulder, I'll initiate the review and write my comments within the next 48 hours. I'd begin by suggesting a page move... BusterD (talk) 16:51, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

It probably does need to be renamed, but I'm not real familiar with the naming conventions for individuals to tell what the best name would be. Just be sure to follow the proper procedures and propose the move on the talk page before doing it. You should probably do it with the fellow's father's page as well. I can give you my take on the article once you've started the review; just let me know when.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:16, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Can you give my review a look? I hope I didn't sound too discouraging. I'm having real difficulty with my unfamiliarity with the checklist template. BusterD (talk) 14:08, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

How am I doing? Did I miss something big on my first pass? BusterD (talk) 22:54, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Imperator Aleksandr II class battleship

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Materialscientist (talk) 18:00, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Milhist task force reorganisation

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DYK for HMS Lord Clive (1915)

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Materialscientist (talk) 12:00, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Great work on this article; it was fascinating read! — Kralizec! (talk) 18:00, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:07, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for HMS Lion (1910)

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Materialscientist (talk) 18:00, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Assessment/Petlyakov Pe-8

I left some comments here a couple of days ago, but haven't seen a reply yet. I just wanted to let you know so you could look at the comments before time runs out. TomStar81 (Talk) 03:17, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. I've been kinda busy and haven't had time to respond, but I'll be able to do so once this weekend is over.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:18, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Sovetsky Soyuz class battleship

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Materialscientist (talk) 18:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Russian battleship Sinop

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Talk page length

Your talk page is quite long and takes a bit of time to load for me, and I'm on a pretty fast computer. Perhaps it is again time for you to archive it? -MBK₀₀₄ 23:15, 10 January 2010 (UTC)