User talk:Drmies/Archive 16

Thank You

I appreciate your help! Hi Drmies. Thank you so much for your message. I am a first time contributor to Wikipedia and appreciate all of your help. I had tried to make a conscious effort to stick to the policies here and now see what mistakes where made. I have had such a great time adding content to your pages and look forward to making even more contributions, just as you have. If you have any more suggestions please let me know. I want to make a positive impact on your great resources. I thank you for your time and feedback. (Sebastiant08 (talk) 16:53, 9 May 2011 (UTC))

Jahnda

Hi, i have a new username, i will keep page edits to a minumum and find credible sources for the stuff i do add as to be in compliance with the site guidelines. Is it possible to remove the COI status? Jahnda (talk) 19:55, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Green children of Woolpit

Thanks for your help with this. It's an article I've wanted to see rounded out for some time now, but haven't quite had the energy to do by myself. Malleus Fatuorum 03:50, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

• You're more than welcome, Malleus; it's my pleasure. It's interesting stuff--much more so than those dull unverified BLPs of business tycoons and soccer players. Also, I'm teaching Sir Gawain this week, and the John Clark article I just added a few notes from has interesting things to say about that. And may I add, you've done a lot for a lot of other editors here, including me. I'm working on those Harvard citations; I've never used them before. I think I could grow to like it. I will keep you posted. In the meantime, let me know if you are interested in PDFs or copies of the articles I'm using (I don't know if you have such electronic access as I have); I'll be glad to send you the material, for your own files. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:56, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
  • I have access to nothing basically, I survive on scraps and the kindness of others. My forte is moving commas around. Which I do rather well I might add. :-) Malleus Fatuorum 04:03, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Interesting stuff! Maybe I will have to read The Green Child. I'll have to see if it's in the library system. LadyofShalott 04:18, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

• I just got my copy via ALLIES. On The Green Child is a link to the online text. Drmies (talk) 04:19, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

I'll resort to that only if I have to - I like to hold a real, physical book in my hands. Drmies, isn't it time to do a talkpage archive, or maybe set up one of those nifty bots? LadyofShalott 04:25, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Aww, you too? OK... Drmies (talk) 04:26, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Ah, that's better! :) Anyway... speaking of "reading" things online, I looked through a digitized version of the Voynich Manuscript. That's a crazy thing. I really would love to hold a facsimile version of that to look. I've started reading The Friar and the Cipher: Roger Bacon and the Unsolved Mystery of the Most Unusual Manuscript in the World. LadyofShalott 04:38, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Woah! Very off-topic, but I've picked something up in this thread. Do you have access to JSTOR? I'm after a copy of an article & my nephew can't get to it because his "institutional access" blocks the relevant download (probably because he is studying chemistry rather than history or economics). - Sitush (talk) 05:09, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

<--Sorry, I don't do science. I am against it, as a matter of fact. Go ask Ucucha or Materialscientist, or any of those nerds. Seriously, what do you need? Drmies (talk) 05:13, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

I don't either ... and now that he is messing about with radioactive potions I don't do shaking his hand either. This is the article - I've got an immediate interest in it re: my work on W & J Galloway & Sons but it looks like there may be other bits in there that may come in handy in my bid to document all the defunct engineering concerns of Manchester before I die. - Sitush (talk) 05:18, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Send me an email and I'll return it pronto. Drmies (talk) 05:27, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Done - Sitush (talk)

Done too. And may I congratulate you on having a mission in life. It wouldn't be mine! Drmies (talk) 05:36, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Sonja Barend

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:04, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Wim Hora Adema

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:04, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK Jim Denomie

Hi thanks for your thoughts about about my Jim Denomie DYK nomination. I have updated another ALT hook, feel free to take a look. I just need a green check to make it through :) If not, I understand. Thanks again! Missvain (talk) 14:48, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Kaya (Canadian singer)

Thank you for helping and moving Kaya (Official Biography) to Kaya(Canadian singer) ... Could you mind to stop the deletion log and remove the tag on Kaya (Canadian singer) please? Because i think all it is correcte now isn't it? I wrote it with him, i actually work with him... Thank you so much for your work, i am grateful for your help and your patience... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaya UCM (talk • contribs) 17:21, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry, but I can't do that. For starters, the most meaningful edits have been the cutting of content. What Sitush and I have cut and sometimes rephrased needs to be done for the entire article: the article reads like a resume, it's certainly not neutral and that's a requirement (see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view). Moreover, the article doesn't have a single reliable source; all it has is a URL for his website and a URL for some organization he was active in. A biography of a living person (see WP:BLP) needs to verify its facts using references to reliable sources ({{WP:RS]]), and that's just not the case. That there are no reliable sources means that the BLP PROD (deletion for a biography of a living person) template still applies. Look at a relatively random BLP on a music artist--Professor Griff for instance--or look at an excellent example--such as Celine Dion--and you'll note that facts are verified by reference to sources. This latter point will have to be addressed: reliable sources have to be added to the article, preferably with footnotes indicating which specific facts are verified, in order for the deletion template to be removed. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 18:31, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Lorene Cary

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:03, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: Mikey

Yes, it sure would be. Thanks for reverting the vandal's edits to my talk page. --T H F S W (T · C · E) 20:09, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

• Glad to be of service. Drmies (talk) 20:39, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

UEL

Hi, I've had to go back to the University of East London article today and do another load of edits because the original editor came back in and regenerated copyvios and all sorts of stuff. A new editor has now arrived on the scene and appears to be more "with it" but has introduced something for which I can find no evidence in the citation. My suspicion is that it is synthesis/original research but I've already reverted a couple of times and so don't want to push things myself.

If you have the time (and/or inclination!) do you mind checking whether I am going insane here or not? The relevant bit is currently cite 27 at University_of_East_London#Academic_reputation_and_rankings. My issue is that I can see nothing in the cited source that refers to "modern universities" (a vague term, imo, anyway). Thanks, - Sitush (talk) 20:21, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

I see that you have entered the fray. I'm stopoing now. I've have deliberately taken each edit in small steps, with sometimes verbose edit summaries, because I'd like to provide an audit trail that a newbie might be able to follow. Given recent events on the article, I'm not convinced that the strategy has worked. In any event, I'll let you make your own judgement. Appreciate your review of it. - Sitush (talk) 01:18, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I don't know what more to say here. Two pairs of eyes are better than one, that's for sure. I do think (I said this before) that you chose the proper path and no one can fault you for that. Sometimes these things linger on for a long time as well, and it's good to have a history which clearly points that out. Don't give up; good efforts don't go to waste. Drmies (talk) 01:34, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I actually meant stopping for now - bedtime etc. I'm really unhappy about what I think is original research but have run out of reverts etc so will have to wait. There is a lot of COI in this article but I suppose that is common to most university items. If WP had been around when I was a Cambridge then doubtless I would have been equally protective etc. And so to bed ... - Sitush (talk) 01:42, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Fancy refs

They are not actually mine :) I am happy enough with this. But I will see what I can do. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:24, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: Adoptee

Thank you for your kind words, and especially for notifying me while I was away from my computer. I had a feeling he wasn't going to last, but it was worth a try. Worm^TT 21:39, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

• And for that you are to be applauded. I couldn't have done it. Thanks Worm, Drmies (talk) 01:34, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Just read through his last hour on Wikipedia. Not impressed, sorry you had to deal with that! I know there wasn't anything I could have done, but I'm sorry I wasn't there to help. Also, hope you don't mind me copying your kind words across to my talk page, remind myself it is worth it! Worm^TT 09:04, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, it wasn't just me. Many others were hitting rollback as well--it just happened to have happened during a bit of a lull at AIV. In the meantime, I was perusing their edits, wondering what they were doing and why, and I don't have an answer for it. Now, let's write some articles! Drmies (talk) 15:02, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Bacon!

File:Giant rubber duck 1.jpg

I found this and couldn't help myself

Wow, check out this which includes:

1. Bacon baby formula
2. Bacon cupcakes
3. Bacon mints
4. Bacon soda
5. Bacon soap
6. Gummy bacon

I don't want to spoil the rest for you...Lots of the usual suspects too.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:57, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

• K, there are some scary things in there. I've ordered most of em. Drmies (talk) 05:11, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Lydia Cecilia Hill

A quick note: punctuation and spacing in the references is not always perfect. Note 13 doesn't have closing period. Note 14 probably needs a period and a space after the date 1830. Note 18 doesn't have a closing period. Ditto note 34, note 47, note 48, note 54. Note 50, unclear whether the words in italics are the title; webpage does not list that as title. Sorry, gotta run. I'll be glad to help out, but the kids are getting out of the bath tub now. Drmies (talk) 01:07, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for you kind help. And I agree about the comma in the intro. --Storye book (talk) 12:26, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hello Drmies! Thank you for reverting the vandalism on my userpage. You know you're doing something right when they do that! BurtAlert (talk) 05:06, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

• Haha, did you get that quote from my user page? Keep it up, and you can put up one of those cool userboxes, "This page has been vandalized x times." Take it easy, Drmies (talk) 05:10, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Nah, I didn't. Is it in the dead link under somewhat random remarks? BurtAlert (talk) 05:17, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

{{User:Vishwin60/Userbox/vandalized|63}} Drmies (talk) 05:19, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Durrr there it is. BurtAlert (talk) 05:27, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Hey, it is gone--maybe I cleaned up. Anyway, the userbox is kind of a trophy. My favorite is the blocking template, courtesy of User:Bongomatic, on whose userpage you can also see the greatest speedy deletion template ever. Drmies (talk) 05:30, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

That is amazing! I'd love to see the look on some kid's face when he sees that on his Wikipedia article about whatever that he thought was hilarious. That template would really come in handy. BurtAlert (talk) 05:41, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Belinda Meuldijk

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 09:13, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Wim Meuldijk

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 09:13, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Pipo en de p-p-Parelridder

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 09:13, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

New anti-"Roman" IP vandal

I've added User:71.0.209.112 to your list. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:00, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for keeping me posted, BMK. You know, you always hope that at some point it ends. Happy spring break! (if that's what you're doing--I'm looking at the Gulf Coast right now) Drmies (talk) 13:23, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Korczak in Krupski Oleg (Request for renaming user)

Please, rename my account "User:Korczak" in "User:Krupski Oleg" in en.wikipedia respectively my IP. The reason - for a global account, I did not get access in pl.wikipedia.org, why there has been "User:Korczak". I am therefore obliged to address separately (in each section) to local bureaucrats, to save my data. Regards Krupski Oleg (talk) 07:23, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

• I'm sorry, I don't have those kinds of powers. Please see Wikipedia:Changing username. Good luck! Drmies (talk) 12:42, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

for your support. BTW it was quite a long while before I realised you weren't an admin...... Peridon (talk) 10:06, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Ray Pawson

Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: Ray Pawson. The community has decided that all new biographies of living persons must contain a reliable source that supports at least one statement made about the person in the article as per our verifiability policy. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:10, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, I remember that community. Guilty as charged. Drmies (talk) 22:07, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Der Doktor

Thanks, well us doctors have to stick together. I edit wikipedia somewhat as a dual personality. Last week I was creating tons of stubs in the frame of mind that wikipedia dramatically needs to expand coverage of third world countries and that a short stub is at least a stub in the right direction. This week, the last few days I'm viewing it from the complete opposite and ploughing through Pakistani and Indian towns and just making drastic cleanup which is urgently needed. When I'm in the stub creating mind I sort of block out the horrendous work that actually needs doing on existing articles and see the project as a developing one. When I'm not I view it from a reader's perspective and how the average fluent english speaker would regard our articles on places iin countries like Indian and Pakistan and how it would influence their view on wikipedia...

• I appreciate the shout-out and the global angle, Herr Doktor. Good luck. Drmies (talk) 22:16, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Sometimes the sub stubbing invites people to expand the articles, in Lithuania's case nobody is around who speaks Lithuanian to translate them, so it is probably best if they didn't exist at all. That's the idea of the sub stubs is that other people actually build them who are interested in art and speak lithuanian. They are purely the product of a development point of view in the long term and who much more benefit it would be for wikipedia to have articles on such topics. A lot of the time it doesn't work so the stubs are rendered useless and if not researched even remotedly will contain duds.. Unfortunely people see my user name creating short stubs and it tarnishes my name for the good wrk I actually do cleaning up and writing articles properly... ♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:18, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: Block

Re your message: Yeah, probably some 4chan thing. It pops up from time to time with video games. I just blocked the whole lot of them. No warning. No notice. It is out of policy/normal practice, but I've done it before and seen other admins do the same thing with 4chan attacks. Warning them is worthless since they know exactly what they are doing. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:52, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for your note, and I appreciate the actions you've taken. Drmies (talk) 01:53, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

And it spreads to other related articles like Grand Theft Auto: Mission packs. Typical 4chan thing. It's probably happening right now to some other video game related article; I just haven't found it yet. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 02:02, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

If it is 4chan, you will, I reckon. I actually haven't seen their stuff in a while. Thanks again for keeping the house clean. Drmies (talk) 02:05, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

kant on anarchy

and what does mr doctor mean is wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.117.207.51 (talk) 02:56, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

• See my edit summary. Drmies (Mrs.) (talk) 02:58, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

ah ok. sry im a noob. and sorry for my evil attitude, mr pro :) could u explain to me plx how to make those line breaks??? thx! (the contnet is ok?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.117.207.51 (talk) 03:02, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

found it! have a gn8!

• Well, it would have to start with a careful proofreading. Then, I note, there are four lines, but only the first, "A Law And Freedom without Violence", is listed as having something to do with anarchy. Most importantly, though, as an encyclopedia Wikipedia works best with having secondary sources. You could start with having a look at this; a summary of the argument presented there would be welcome. But a note on Kant's attitude toward anarchy is probably best placed in History of anarchism#Early modern era. Good luck, and let me know if I can help. Drmies (talk) 03:09, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Siege of Leningrad

Dear wiki user,

Why did you remove the list of Famous people who survived the Siege of Leningrad?

You wrote that the "list is probably acceptable" - so keep it for the sake of making wiki better!

Other corrections to the article are sourced and well known to scholars. However, some agenda driven users are exploiting the "consensus rule" to degrade Wikipedia. Sadly, educated people are too busy to waste their time, while the uneducated do destroy efforts to bring knowledge to others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.34.80.73 (talk • contribs)

• Why didn't you insert that list without the other information which you know is controversial and not agree upon by consensus? This talk of education and all, that's neither here nor there. We are expected to play by the rules here: this and this are simply not reliable, secondary sources. Drmies (talk) 13:03, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Eleanor Duckett

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 08:04, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks (Gogo Dodo's note)

Thanks for the revert. Lots of sockpuppets around today. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:42, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

• Sure thing. Maybe you need a vacation--let Nawlin Wiki clean up the mess for a week. I saw that name when the account was started and meant to follow it, but didn't see it again until its last edit. Those cool spellings usually give vandals away. Drmies (talk) 04:43, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Vacation? Maybe. Sleep would be nice. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:47, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar! It is an honor to receive one from you. It has certainly been an interesting couple of days. Perhaps it is the lunar effect with the supermoon? -- Gogo Dodo (talk)

• You're more than welcome, Gogo. I've seen you do good things for years now. Hey, guess what I got in the mail today (used from Amazon): this. Ha, I thought of you when I got it, but only briefly, cause then I did what you maybe should have done: I took a nap. Take it easy, Gogo! Drmies (talk) 03:26, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

I attended Acme Looniversity, much better than any other school around. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:39, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

• Hey, maybe we should work on a list or a category for dodo-related books. I just saw this, and this, and this... We both could use a nice, new FL star! Drmies (talk) 03:30, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

I'd help with that. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:39, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Daisy Polk

The article Daisy Polk has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No evidence of notability: only claim to fame seems to be that she married a French nobleman, himself not notable enough for a WP article. One NYT society article does not imply encyclopedic notability.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. PamD (talk) 20:36, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

OK,I see it's now two NYT articles, but she doesn't seem to be significant in any way except for being an American married to a French nobleman, which doesn't seem appropriate as a claim to notability. PamD (talk) 20:40, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

• Actually, it's three, and there's a lot more, for instance here. Also, the French nobleman was an army general, plenty notable. I'm taking the liberty of removing the PROD template. If lack of reliable sources is a serious issue, there's always this category to look at: [[Category:Fictional characters]]. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 20:47, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
• If General Petain had been at my wedding, I'd probably be notable too. Drmies (talk) 20:58, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
• Being the wife of a nobleman or an army general is not a claim to notability. But the Legion d'honneur is, so she's OK. PamD (talk) 23:50, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Having ten printed sources helps too. The requirements in WP:GNG are easily met. Looking through Google News and Books would have confirmed that very quickly. Drmies (talk) 23:55, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Crescent Tours article

TheArticleEditor : ok, but please remove the article objectively. I find some of your comments unfair. If you have any concerns about any specific phrases/sentences, please, let me know and I will correct them. I am trying to follow the style of other existing articles, for example there is an article for company called Balkan Holidays. I should remind that Crescent Tours is a pioneering company in the new tourism sector called Halal Holidays, and thus defeintely carries general knowledge importance and thus needs to be included in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheArticleEditor (talk • contribs) 01:57, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

• And I invite all watchers to have a look at the history to see if I was unfair. If an article doesn't mention the company, it seems to me that it's fair to say that the article doesn't mention the company. Drmies (talk) 01:59, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
• it does not mentioned the company but it mentions the concept. Thus it can be in External links section if not References. Instead of saying things like "let's delete this article" it would have been useful if you help me to correct the article. This is my first article on Wikipedia, so constructive and specific help would have been useful rather than suggesting an article for a removal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheArticleEditor (talk • contribs) 02:10, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Editor, I'm sorry, but I didn't suggest anything. And external links that don't mention the subject have no place in that article--"mentioning the concept" is a different matter. But you are better advised to take this up on the AfD (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crescent Tours) than here. If you have any references that do discuss the subject, add them and mention it at the AfD discussion: you might change people's minds. Drmies (talk) 02:20, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Moto Roma for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Moto Roma is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moto Roma until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Dbratland (talk) 04:13, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

JSTOR

HI, could you do me another JSTOR favour please? I'm drifting now between Mancunian industrial history and a 62 round prize fight - weird where WP takes us sometimes! - Sitush (talk) 06:01, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

• Sure thing--just email me. Drmies (talk) 14:09, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Billie Thomas

Hi. This IP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/8.26.98.123

keeps restoring the section about Carter. Any suggestions? Thanks! Spicemix (talk) 13:54, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

• It's been removed again, for all the right reasons. Not much we can do besides keeping an eye on it. Thanks for letting me know. Drmies (talk) 14:14, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Moto Roma

[1]  Chzz  ►  15:13, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Question

Hi, thanks for your AN/i report about Jane his wife. The article Nicole Kidman needs some more cleanup if you have the time to help me out with it. I'd appreciate the help. Thanks in advance, and if you are busy I'll get to it as soon as I can. Thanks again, --CrohnieGal^Talk 11:55, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

• I smelled correctly: sock of User talk:DeadSend4. Did you see those edit summaries? Insulting, stupid, childish...imagine being that person's parents, and being forced to love them. Anyway, I enjoy it when editors like that are found out and get blocked, though this probably isn't the last of it. Drmies (talk) 15:56, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

62 rounds

Isaac Perrins - and I don't even like boxing! Got your email, thanks very much. - Sitush (talk) 13:05, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

• Good luck--those are, ahem, some fascinating topics you're working on! Drmies (talk) 17:52, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Well, I think Eng. Lit. is pretty well covered ... <g> - Sitush (talk) 17:59, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

File:Godwin man in the moone.jpg

I'm certain that any book published in 1657 is no longer in copyright anywhere, so you can use {{PD-old}} rather than a fair-use claim. Regards, Bencherlite^Talk 08:41, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

• I'm certain as well--but I'm also completely incapable, apparently, of navigating Commons...I tried yesterday, but couldn't do it. Your help is appreciated, and the same applies to File:Godwin man in the moone first edition.jpg. Thanks for your help and your note! Drmies (talk) 14:22, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

naam...

Pas maar op, Blofeld mag dan evil zijn, maar met de Zoeperkoe valt ook niet te spotten... Maar ik had al zo'n idee dat ik niet de enige Nederlander hier was toen ik een DYK over Pipo en de Parelridder voorbij zag komen. Er is ook veel te weinig aandacht voor degelijk Neerlands cultuurgoed op de Engelse WP ;) --Zoeperkoe (talk) 13:55, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

• Oh, nou zie ik het--superkoe! in steenkolenengels! Very nice. I'm glad someone noticed Pipo. Blofeld has done lots of good things for lots of cultures, including ours; did you ever see De mésaventure van een Fransch heertje zonder pantalon aan het strand te Zandvoort? And I need to bring Claw Boys Claw up to Good Article status... Drmies (talk) 14:21, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Nonsense warning.

Hi Drmies. Yeah I know that warning I posted there was a bunch of baloney but I thought maybe, just maybe, it might scare the piss out of the little vandalizing jerk if they thought someone was able to track them down and nail them. It was worth a shot anyway lol. I personally wish an Admin would permanently block that IP, but it probably won't happen. Have a great Wiki kinda day! Sector001 (talk) 18:04, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

• Well, if you had given them a level-3 warning, I could easily have given them a final warning, and they'd be blocked next time. Drmies (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Coolness! Good to know. I'll do that next time. Sorry I screwed it up. Sector001 (talk) 18:12, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

No worries. It's difficult sometimes to keep a cool head when the work we do is all too easily butchered by school kids. But you're not alone, see? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:14, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello

Hi Drmies, tanks. My name is Alfonso. I´m live in Villahermosa, Tabasco. I'm don't speak english very well. I have written 50 articles in spanish Wikipedia. I hope you can help with grammar and writing of the article of Pozol. I put the references of what I wrote in article. Tanks Alfonsobouchot (talk) 23:40, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

• Alfonso, welcome aboard. I will do what I can. First off, though, let me point you to WP:RS: some of the sources in the article in its current state do not meet those requirements, and since this is an encyclopedia it has to start from there. See what you can dig up using Google Books, for instance, and let's get to work. Drmies (talk) 00:13, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Btw are you an admin? I was just looking up what I should do to report that ip. I did not quite find the right page I think.... - Yangula (talk) 02:13, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

• You're welcome. No, I'm just a peon who cleans up every now and then. If the IP makes more of those edits (they've received a final warning), you can report them at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. If you have WP:Twinkle, all you have to do is a few clicks. But I've left them a message on their talk page; let's hope they read it. Take it easy, and remember: "Never listen to a bouzouki player / If you won't fall in love". (I am not responsible for the broken English in that sentence.) Drmies (talk) 02:16, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Twinkle looks great thanks! I didnt realiz e there even is a gadget section! (well I do not recognize the line you (?) have translated, no one listens to me anyway, no matter if they fall in love or not.:):) Yangula (talk) 02:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
    • Oh, it's some awful pop song from a Dutch girl group from the 80s or so. I've always wondered what they were singing, and I just looked up the lyrics and got confirmed what I should have known all along: ungrammatical nonsense. The IP has been quiet. Let's hope that it stays that way, or that they start communicating and contributing positively. Later, Drmies (talk) 02:30, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Ronn Torossian

May I ask that you review the earlier version: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ronn_Torossian&oldid=421022872 This user is not a politican nor should political professional work on Israel be any more relevant than his work for mcdonalds or coca cola. Why not list how many cokes coca cola sells ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenbay1313 (talk • contribs)

• I'm not sure I understand the question. What I do know is that I like this version better. The short answer is, if someone is notable and does something that the newspapers find notable enough to report on, that chances are it's notable information for us. I also saw your note on the BLP noticeboard; I do not know what you are trying to accomplish either with your edits to the article or with the somewhat vague claims about another editor. As far as I'm concerned, any further discussion should take place somewhere else. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 18:30, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
• I also saw your trivial complaint at ANI--you probably should stop forum shopping, since that's really frowned upon. Drmies (talk) 18:35, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

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Hans Stadlmair

Just to let you know - you probably don't look again at the nomination: WERGO changed to "20th anniversary". But I actually prefer the new hook, thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

• Yes I saw--thanks! You think maybe they were reading your comments on the DYK page? ;) Drmies (talk) 15:25, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

No, I sent them a message. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:09, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Lufthansa

Sorry, airline current fleet lists are not my sphere of interest, so I can't tell whether the edit was good or not (default is AGF it was good unless proved otherwise). Mjroots (talk) 18:01, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

April fools to you too!

Hey I am reporting you to the authorities!

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3rr nb

Hi, as it doesn't seem clear the user in the setion above has reported you at the 3RRNB here. Regards. Off2riorob (talk) 20:30, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

• Ha, thanks Rob. No, that was not clear to me at all. I don't think that our BLP policy is a joking matter, and I appreciate the heads-up. Drmies (talk) 01:06, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Sir Degrevant

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Bacon WikiCup 2011 Award

		Bacon WikiCup 2011 - Participant Medal
		Due to your work in expanding bacon-related content during the Bacon WikiCup 2011, you have been awarded the Bacon WikiCup 2011 Particpant Medal. You received a final score of 39, earning yourself fifth place. Congratulations, and thank you for your great work! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 09:03, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks Hamster! Drmies (talk) 12:05, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK: Peter Orno

Hi! I replied to your comments at the DYK page, noting improvements to the article. Thanks!  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 19:50, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi again. The artwork ("serious joke", according to Goethe), Peter Orno, has found a place on the nomination page for DYK---on April Fools' Day, where he belongs! Best regards,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 19:26, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Chillicothe, Missouri vandalism

Hi Drmies....well our "problem child" is at it again. The unregistered IP launched a massive vandalism campaign today on the Chillicothe, Missouri Wiki. I've repaired all/most of the damage I think. Last week you said something about you could give them a final warning or an outright block. Could you please do so or direct me on who to contact to arrange it? Much thanks! Sector001 (talk) 17:46, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

• Well, I can't block anyone, but I did place a final warning on their page. Actually, User:Leszek Jańczuk could have given them a final warning, in which case you could have referred them to the proper authorities, at WP:AIV. Have a look at that page anyway to see how it works, and next time feel free to warn them yourself--you can do that, it takes no special authorization. See the long list at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace, and be careful to not "overwarn"--in our case, it's clearly vandalism, but do see WP:VANDALISM. If you have WP:TWINKLE installed (and there are other options), you can do those warnings and AIV reports automatically. Thanks, and keep the faith, Drmies (talk) 17:52, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

cal music theater

Sorry, i thought i was putting it back in. Mr shish kebob (talk) 03:58, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• No problem. Stuff happens. Happy editing. Drmies (talk) 04:01, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey Doc

It's been a crazy week, but I'm going to try to get on that item tonight! LadyofShalott 19:49, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Crazy, huh? No rush, Lady--I appreciate your time and effort. Drmies (talk) 20:29, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Well I obviously didn't get to it then. I'm finally working on it. It's not ready to go yet, but will be in a little while. LadyofShalott 00:18, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

That's fine, Lady. Hey, while you're at it, would you like two screaming girls for a week? Oh, and have you read Natasha Tretheway? Your nick of the woods... Drmies (talk) 00:20, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

You've got email. Oh, I'd like to meet your girls sometime, but preferably not when they are screaming. :D No, I'm not familiar with Trethaway's works - I'll have to see if we have anything by her in our collection. LadyofShalott 00:46, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Tenure

Hi Drmies, Greetings from India. I read about your achievement in the Wikimedia Blog. Heartiest Congratulations! You have broken new ground for Wikipedia and deserve all credit. Please keep up the good work.

AshLin (talk) 20:39, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks--same to you! Drmies (talk) 20:41, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

And some from Denmark as well! Looks like your ruthless attempts to suppress the news failed ;) Favonian (talk) 20:45, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, they sure did. I give up--and it is nice to hear nice things. It'll be even nicer when that humongous raise kicks in. What did you get when you were promoted to admin, besides the t-shirt? Did you even get a t-shirt? Drmies (talk) 20:47, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Members of the Guild are sworn to secrecy on this issue, but there is an easy way for you to find out. Hint, hint! Favonian (talk) 20:51, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Hey power player, can you tell me what happened here? I'm not saying that I want the editor blocked, necessarily, but "comment removed", coming from a Bot, that hurts my feelings... Drmies (talk) 21:01, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Concurrency control is not necessarily what our software does best. I've seen some very strange things happening when I try to edit busy files like AIV/ANI. Be that as it may, the reported miscreant has been dealt with. Favonian (talk) 21:09, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

What have I missed here? Blog? Is that a reliable source? I think that admins should receive a packet of pork scratchings. - Sitush (talk) 20:59, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Since dinner last night I have given up bacon. From now on it's salt pork for me. Drmies (talk) 21:01, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

• Congrats from me too - I saw the story elsewhere, spent a few minutes tracking down who it was, then saw it was already out in the open here. It's quite an achievement for you, and a great event for Wikipedia too :-) Now, when's this RfA then? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:57, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
• Awesome!!!! Now that that's over, I hope it's back to all bacon all the time. 23:27, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Now tell me Doc, did you include any of your most important contributions in your portfolio?--kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:37, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
    • No sir, strictly scholarship--but I can't remember if I bragged about the number of hits for the Bacon explosion. Drmies (talk) 00:40, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Well since you seem to have accepted having it mentioned here, let me add my congratulations! I had seen your deletion of someone else's congrats, but I guess you've given up that fight. That's great news, and I know you have to be very pleased! LadyofShalott 00:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

• Congratulations! I was surprised to read that you chat with eighteenth-century scholars; what brand of time machine do you use? Ucucha 00:33, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
  • The guy whose office is next to mine is a Lawrence Sterne scholar, and he's full professor, so I have no choice. Are you referring to anyone in specific? Drmies (talk) 00:39, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
    • I was thinking there is a difference between a "scholar of the eighteenth-century" and an "eighteenth-century scholar". Conversing with the former should be much easier. Ucucha 00:43, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
      • (edit conflict)Wait, are you trying to tell me that you do not chat with scholars who live in the eighteenth century? Your street cred just wend down a notch Doc.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:46, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

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Three things...

• Ever been to Armenia?
• Did I tell you I am going to Walt Disney World?
• Only one more week and I am back to Canada, after One Night in UB.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:00, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
  • No, I wish! I do have a desire to visit that area of the world. When are you going?
  • Nope! And I do hope mine never want to go. Can't stand theme parks. Funny, one of my earliest deep Wikipedia experience involved rides at the Efteling. I think that's how I met DGG, but certainly MGM was involved. I miss having him around.
  • It'll be nice, I'm sure. Has spring broken out yet up there? Our roses are in full bloom already. Please say hi to Mrs. Kelapstick, and enjoy your time home. Thanks for your note! Drmies (talk) 02:19, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
    • I should find out between Wednesday and Friday if/when I am going.
    • I have been a few times, but it is actually more for Mrs. Kelapstick that we are going.
    • It is warmer in the Gobi than it is in Nova Scotia, but we have had a remarkable winter/spring. Fortunately I have not had any run ins with the Mongolian Death Worm (yet) I haven't had to wear a warm jacket in weeks.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:35, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

I believe I will be going (to Armenia) in May. Any thoughts on what to do with a 12 hour layover at Heathrow?--kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:59, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

• Never been there. Ask Malleus! One time I spent eight hours on a bus station in London, but that was right in the midst of things. Hey, steer clear of them worms. Bobbit worms are scary too. Drmies (talk) 02:21, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
  • I've never been to Armenia either, but I have a very old friend who's an Armenian from Cyprus; his family fled the country when the Turks invaded. My advice to Kelapstick would be to find a bed and to get as much sleep as possible. There's nothing to see around Heathrow except planes and airport hotels. Malleus Fatuorum 02:29, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
    • Whoa! Drmies (talk) 02:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
      • Wowza, that is crazy...Thanks for the tips guys.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 03:04, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Großgaststätte Ahornblatt

The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

It is now featured on Portal:Germany. If you have more DYK related to Germany, feel free to place it there yourself. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

RE: 4108AACWD3T8

Thanks, but I believe that A1 may also apply. Tbhotch* ^{۩ ۞} 03:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

• Either way. Have you ordered one yet? I didn't realize how much I needed it. Drmies (talk) 03:43, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for The Man in the Moone

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Treatise of Love

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry for reverting and calling it Vandalism, it would help if you put a reason when you deleted large chunks of text from articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nightenbelle (talk • contribs)

• Accepted. Please have a look at the edit summaries I provided. Drmies (talk) 17:55, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Lorene Cary

Hello Drmies, a long time ago I contacted Lorene Cary about a better image for the article. After a few emails exchange with her assistant, and explaining the situation about the license to her, I was at last able to secure a much better image of Lorene Cary. Here it is. I am sorry it came too late for using it on March 8, but I assure you I have done everything that I could to get that image before March 8. May I please ask you to let me know, if you'd rather me uploading it to Commons? Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:03, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

• Hi Mbz1--thank you so much for your help! It is much appreciated. Yes, uploading to Commons would be wonderful. I also tried to get a good photo, but I missed her reading at a conference we both attended. Thanks again! Drmies (talk) 20:31, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
  • You are welcome. I am happy I was able to help you.I uploaded it File:Portrait of Lorene Cary.jpg Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:39, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

re: Opsgear

Ahh, capitalization difference. That explains it. Thanks. Rossami (talk) 02:56, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

• Nothing fancy--I found the reference to the AfD amid that plethora of warnings and templates on the editor's page. Later! Drmies (talk) 03:09, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Hungry Caterpillar (removed puppet edition ref)

Hiya - I was interested to see you had removed the finger-puppet edition of the hungry caterpillar. I just wanted to discuss it. I agree an Amazon link might be advertising, if there is no other link to evidence the book I guess wikipolicy says no. However, in itself I don't think it's any less notable than other versions is it? I suppose it is not a move into an entirely different format, eg dvd,jigsaw,but it is significant from a book design point of view?? There is a Book Design article, talking about binding and title pages and the like, which I recently added mention of pop-up, puppets and die-cutting in children books to, using Eric Carle as a well known example hoping it was general knowledge enough not to need citation. I don't know if there is a specific book design article for childrens literature. I think the editions of this book may serve as a neat illustration, and since Carle is a guru in the world of young children's literature, heading his picture book art museum, it seems appropriate to give a full impression of the publishing formats of this book. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this. Kathybramley (talk) 08:21, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

• Hi Kathy, I removed it indeed because that link was the only verification. If any other source can be found (even a page from the publisher is better) it can immediately be reinstated. That Carle's books are well-known examples of the things you mention, that can't be taken as a given, but considering his popularity it shouldn't be hard to find something. BTW, my favorite is the Panda Bear, Panda Bear series. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:11, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
• Why don't you peruse Google Books to see what you can find? I found this in a few keystrokes. Drmies (talk) 14:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

• WorldCat is also a good bet. It was easy to find this listing. That makes it easy to add the OCLC number for the book as well. LadyofShalott 17:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Index of Middle English Verse ‎

My pleasure - always happy to be of help. I never knew Tech had one of those...or any interest in Middle English verse, for that matter...

Oh, and I'm not from here, I'm not from there... --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:19, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I almost always have this problem

And this time it's our Green children of Woolpit article. I've started to add a bit about the Banjos kids (needs another couple of sentences), the Babes in the Wood myth still needs to be added, the lead needs to be expanded a bit, some tidying up to do, and we could really do with something to break up the wall of text. But otherwise I think it's pretty much there, and I'm thinking that we might as well chance our arm at FAC rather than GAN. What say you? Malleus Fatuorum 21:54, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

• Well, I think it's fine to shoot for FA. But the wall of text--were you thinking of an image? I looked through Flickr but can't find anything useful besides images from Woolpit. Drmies (talk) 23:34, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Not necessarily, an apposite quote box might do. Malleus Fatuorum 01:32, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
    • A quote... Cohen gives more information on the source than any other text I have here, and I copied the direct quotes in Cohen's summary of the account on pp. 83-84. Is that of any use?

      We are people from Saint Martin’s land; he is accorded special reverence in the country of our birth... [where is that, how did you get here?] We do not know either of these things. All we know is that one day we were pasturing our father’s flocks in the fields, when we heard a mighty din such as we often hear at St. Edmund’s when they say the bells are ringing out. When we turned our attention to the sound which caused us surprise, it was as though we were out of our minds, for we suddenly found ourselves among you in the fields where you were harvesting... [Christ? Sun?] But the sun does not rise among the natives of our land and it obtains very little light from the sun’s rays, but is satisfied with the measure of its brightness which in your country precedes its rising or follows its setting. Moreover a shining land is visible not far from our own, but a very broad river divides the two."

      Drmies (talk) 02:42, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
• Malleus, what is there for the Babes in the Wood link besides that article by Harris and the book by Brian Haughton? Haughton gives a few references I haven't looked at yet (p. 265-66) and I'll try and get my hands on those. BTW: see this page: Robert Burton needs a mention too, since (search for "green children") he references Nubrigensis. Drmies (talk) 01:11, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
  • There's nothing for the Babes except to refute the argument that the stories are related. Only warrants a sentence or two. Malleus Fatuorum 01:18, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
    • Sure, but since it's not in reliable sources it can't be refuted by reliable sources, can it? I'll leave that to you. I did just order a copy of Appleby's The Troubled Reign of King Stephen 1135 - 1154 (only a couple of bucks, used; and for pleasure I ordered some music), which isn't available at all online, and buying on Amazon took fewer keystrokes than ordering it through Interlibrary Loan. Drmies (talk) 01:42, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
    • Oh, the context of Burton's mention certainly suggests that he got this from Godwin. It's only a passing mention anyway (that the green children would have fallen from heaven--I think he's suggesting they may have fallen from the sun, but that sounds odd to me) in the context of heliocentrism and the Sidereus Nuncius. Drmies (talk) 01:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
      • Perhaps you missed the "in popular culture wars". To cut a long story short, if we don't mention the Babes then we'll be forever fighting off a hoard of new editors claiming that the stories are in some way related. Just like the Banjos nonsense. Malleus Fatuorum 01:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
        • No, I haven't forgotten that you mentioned that earlier, and I'm not arguing against you. But I am curious to see how you will phrase it. Drmies (talk) 01:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
          • I've added both the Babes and Banjos, see what you think. I think we're ready for FAC now. Malleus Fatuorum 01:56, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
            • (butting in) That's a great article, peeps. I'm green with envy. Can you just clarify something for me re: style? You are looking at FAC but the lead contains citations. I thought that I had read somewhere that leads should not contain citations because of their introductory purpose. I can't say that I've ever really understood the point and I can't even find the statement now. Have I imagined it or what? In some ways, if it is imaginary then that is preferable: the hoops I had to jump through to avoid cites in the lead of Isaac Perrins for GAN status were ridiculous & it has put me off further adapting the lead of that in an attempt to shoot at FAC. To my mind, if you can't have citations in the lead then the same policy should apply to wikilinks, which seems daft. - Sitush (talk) 04:12, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
              • Some people do go to extraordinary lengths to eliminate citations from the lead with an almost religious fervour, but the official line is here. The general view is that as the lead is a summary of the article then everything in it should be mentioned and cited elsewhere, so repeating the citation would be redundant, but the guidelines say very clearly that "The lead serves both as an introduction to the article and as a summary of its most important aspects". Therefore there's no reason at all why it mustn't contain some little snippet too small to warrant further coverage in the article itself, which may need to be cited. The other thing of course is that direct quotations always need to be cited, wherever they appear, as there is no exception to citation standards specific to leads.
              • The bottom line is that although it's often unnecessary to include citations in the lead they're not forbidden, no matter what your GA reviewer may believe, and they're sometimes required. But in general it's best to be prudent with them and avoid them where practicable, as they can add to the visual clutter. Malleus Fatuorum 12:27, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
                • Sitush, for the validity of the above advice, and the experience of the editor, see their user page. One thing to note is that there are very different interpretations of the guidelines and of formatting issues. Malleus and I disagree over minor things, and that's fine--for instance, if I were to choose to have all the footnotes end with a period, a GA/FA review probably won't be derailed over it, and I'm certainly not going to pick a fight over it in this case, given how much work Malleus has done, and how much experience he has. A more serious issue could arise over the serial comma--Brits simply have no common sense in that regard, but that would require more training and therapy than I can afford to give him. Malleus doesn't like infoboxes so much, and many others do (I personally don't care a lot, certainly not for the green children), but that also won't stand in the way of GA/FA status--unless, of course, you run into a reviewer who's a stickler for rules that in many cases aren't there. Discussions over format are common in reviews, and you are always welcome to ask a second opinion. It's more likely that issues of content will prevent promotion, as I experienced with Nina Totenberg. Good luck to you, Drmies (talk) 15:08, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
                  • Thank you, both. The GA reviewer for Perrins didn't comment about the issue because I had been made aware of it in the review of a prior GA & so tried to avoid the entire scenario in Perrins. A consequence was that I had to make a statement twice and it so short that it appears almost repetitious. I can live with it in this case but the info above will definitely be of use in the future. Best wishes for the FAC - I doubt that I'll get anything up to that standard for a few years yet. - Sitush (talk) 16:18, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
                    • Let me add just one thing. I think it's really important that the integrity of an article isn't harmed by a GA/FA review. If you ever start to feel that a change you're being asked to make would make the article worse rather than improve it then don't make it. State your case and let others decide who's right. We're here to write decent articles, not to collect bling. Malleus Fatuorum 16:50, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
                  • Some things are really just personal preferences Drmies, nothing to do with anything the MoS has to say, although some will try to say differently. The golden rule in any article is to be consistent with whatever formatting is adopted, not "right". I use a format that I've found to work, but my way certainly isn't the only way, and I wouldn't claim that it's the best way, but it works for me. Malleus Fatuorum 16:45, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
                  • PS. I have never seen an article fail a review simply because of MoS issues. Malleus Fatuorum 16:54, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
                    • Right. I guess that was my point to Sitush though I could have been more clear: in these matters one can have perfectly valid opposing opinions, and consistency is one of the things to strive for. Lots of different ways lead to Rome; one doesn't have to go through Vercelli. I work for a journal that uses a kind of Chicago style and I really dislike that, but you go with what's there. I prefer MLA, since that's how I got through graduate school, and there are aspects of it that I think are really good. Then again, the MLA now insists on adding "Print" at the end of an entry that was physically acquired, so to speak, and I think that's silly, but I can hardly fault my students for following that rule. PS: Malleus, you'll receive email in the next few minutes (a copy of a message to Alan Marks). Drmies (talk) 17:09, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
                      • Got the email. Let's hope we can move forwards with that. Malleus Fatuorum 21:27, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Do you have any idea how unusual it is to get four supports in the first day or so? Let's keep on top of this, and we'll hopefully make it happen. Malleus Fatuorum 00:58, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

• MF, we wrote a pretty decent article and you turned it into something really good. Unusual, perhaps--it sure is pleasant. Now I wish I had sent off that email weeks ago. BTW, did you stick that Babes in the Wood image in there? Nice. Oh, I'm sure you saw Dank's comment and my response. I wish Cohen would use slightly less pomo language, sure--and for my professional career, it would be better if I wrote more like him. Drmies (talk) 01:04, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
  • I did stick the image in there, yes, and I'll shoehorn Keightley in there somewhere as well. Malleus Fatuorum 01:08, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the reverts on my Userpage. —Jeremy (talk) 13:38, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Lincoln Thornton Manuscript

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Großgaststätte Ahornblatt

Thank you for your edits, for the article nomination, and for your support. As you may know I don't have much time to contribute, so all this is simply awesome! Robert Clausen (talk) 18:46, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

• No, thank you, for starting it in the first place. I thought it was incredibly interesting. I only wish that when I was there, in the early nineties, I'd had more time to look around. So thanks for your occasional contribution: I hope there will be many more. Thanks also for your note--that's nice to hear. Drmies (talk) 00:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

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• "Nevermind"--no sweat! ;) Drmies (talk) 05:12, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Don't you sleep?--kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:43, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
    • In about six minutes. But I hadn't wikied off enough this weekend--other obligations in RL. Good night, and thanks for your concern! Say hi to Mrs. K! Drmies (talk) 05:44, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
      • Will do, off to UB tomorrow, then back home. Looks like Armenia in May. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 08:13, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
        • You know, that's a really funny thing to say, "off to UB tomorrow", like you're going to the mall, and it's really this odd, far, romantic (sounding) place... Drmies (talk) 14:18, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
          • At this point, UB has a feeling of "home", especially on the way out. My flight to Beijing will be off in about 1 hour, then it is first class to Toronto...woot!--kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:57, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Class project: Washington University in St. Louis

Yes. There are many of us with similar screen names working on these sites because we are all in a class focused on Biological clocks and the molecular mechanisms involved. We are students at Washington University in St. Louis. I apologize for the trouble you and I were having with Melanopsin. I kept trying to add my source but you kept deleting my section before I could save. — Preceding unsigned comment added by C1ock23 (talk • contribs) 19:31, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for clearing that up. It's always a good idea to have the reference there and work on the text later rather than the other way around, and to add edit summaries (if you had said "ref coming in a minute" I would have let it stand). Please tell your classmates also to add edit summaries, so that other editors know what's going on.

  Listen, could you tell me who the instructor is? There are a few tips I can give them, and if other editors know that there is a school project they can be more helpful and more lenient at the same time. Thanks, and good luck! Drmies (talk) 19:35, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

• No problem. Sorry! I am new to all of this wikipedia editing etiquette. Thanks!
  • No sweat. Thanks for the information. Oh, you can sign your name with four tildes, like this: ~~~~ Drmies (talk) 19:47, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
    • The instructor doesn't have a Wikipedia account. But I can relay information along to him. (I'm the one with the most experience in the class...you know my primary account.) Edit summaries were covered today, but I can make sure they're highlighted by the instructor. C1ock122 (talk) 21:22, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
      • Oh, and I'll run around and slap {{Educational assignment}} on all the talk pages. C1ock122 (talk) 21:24, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
        • Done. C1ock122 (talk) 21:31, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

The instructor really should have an account set up. It's poor form for him not to have one. (That's of course nothing against you students!) LadyofShalott 21:36, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Yeah...I'll relay the message to him. He's learning along the way; for the most part the Wikipedians in the class are running the Wikipedia side of things. C1ock122 (talk) 21:40, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

There's a learning curve with wikipedia, one that we all have to climb, but your instructor should be at head of the rope, not havering at the bottom. Malleus Fatuorum 21:45, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

I would agree with you if our instructor was teaching a class on Wikipedia. But, alas, he is a very busy scientist instead. I would ask that you all please focus on our contributions to wikipedia and to spreading knowledge of science. Thank you! C1ock23 (talk) 21:56, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Did you edit my post? Malleus Fatuorum 22:01, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

I see that you did; please don't do that again. Malleus Fatuorum 22:06, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

23, by giving you an assignment to edit Wikipedia, he is in effect teaching a class partially on Wikipedia. LadyofShalott 22:25, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Dr. Johnny Skinz's Disproportionately Rambunctious Polar Express Machine-head

The article Dr. Johnny Skinz's Disproportionately Rambunctious Polar Express Machine-head has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners or ask at Wikipedia:Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Dinkytown talk 22:51, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

• Dude. It's a bad article on an as yet unreleased album. Drmies (talk) 23:30, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Jacques Cambry

The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Revert

Hey can't you help me? You reverted me, but which template should I use in such cases (for specifying the geographical location where a photo was taken, for example). Jack who built the house (talk) 03:09, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

• Well, it seems you found it--clicking on the photo gives you the location. For "where" something is, you can use {{where}}. Your "specify" suggested you wanted to know what kind of sculpture it was, and that was obvious: a circular sculpture of the periodic table! Well, I'm glad you found it, and sorry I reverted you--had you included an edit summary that explained the tag, we would have avoided this. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:41, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Hah, so obvious. Thanks. Jack who built the house (talk) 04:16, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
    • Right. Actually, I didn't know it existed until just now--it seemed to me that it was right that it exist. There's a few more, like "when" and "why". Funner ones are "weasel-inline", and you can have some fun with (and use for) "explain" also (look it up--it has syntax). Happy editing, Drmies (talk) 04:18, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Palestinian people

Although you're dealing with a maniac, you appear to have breached 1RR. Please self-revert your last edit. Thanks. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 05:39, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks Malik--you're right. I didn't even realize I was in 1R-territory. My apologies; I'll look twice and revert once next time. Drmies (talk) 16:25, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
  • No problem. Some editors are real sticklers about this, and I wanted to help you avoid getting blocked. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 16:34, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
    • I appreciate that. So far I've managed to avoid the Balkan and the occupied/indigenous/disenfranchised territories, purposely or not, and I value being given a reminder. Have a great day Malik, Drmies (talk) 16:36, 21 April 2011 (UTC) You've been an admin for a year and a half already? How time flies...

Confused about the The Man in the Moone

I can't make sense of the dates given in this article. The lead begins by telling us that it was "apparently" written between 1599 and 1603, yet the opening of the book talks about the English retaking St Helena in 1673. Is that something added to the second edition? My confusion is compounded by the comment later in the article that Godwin was influenced by Galilei's 1610 Siderius Nuncius, but how can that be if it had been written by 1603? Malleus Fatuorum 20:34, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

• I'll have to get back to you on that one, probably later tonight. Haven't looked at it in a while: "any blame is down to me". Drmies (talk) 20:37, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
  • S**t. As luck would have it, GBooks won't let me see the pages I need, Capoferro 153-54. If you like I can order the book and copy/scan/email the pages. More fruitful is probably a new investigation for another accessible source that has a probable date of composition. Drmies (talk) 23:46, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Found a reference among the existing references. Drmies (talk) 23:49, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
    • Sometimes Google Books can be finicky. It let me access Capoferro, which only gives the 1638 date, not even mentioning that it was published posthumously. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:43, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
      • Yep, but thanks for checking. You know, Capoferro's book was published by Peter Lang. Now, that company emailed me to ask me if they could publish my book--that means their standards can't be very high. Mandarax, on another note, do you know I never heard about that Credo account? I saw on that page that I was approved, but I never received any notification... Drmies (talk) 01:18, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
        • Hehe, a very Woody Allenesque comment. Maybe when your book's published someone will finally write a WikiArticle about you. As for Credo, it looks like they haven't done it yet, but I'm sure you'll hear from 'em soon. Hey, I haven't received my t-shirt from The Great Backlog Drive either, and that was over ten weeks ago. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:48, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
          • Oh, I got a Wikipedia hoodie, in black, for showing up for a Campus Ambassador training session in January. And some stickers. And a tag. I'm totally hip. Drmies (talk) 01:52, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
            • The only things I've ever had from wikipedia are fuck all and a lot of ear-ache from precocious kids. Malleus Fatuorum 02:19, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

<--Look, if I could attach bourbon to email, I would. As it is, I'll have to drink it myself, but I raise a glass to you and Mandarax. Cheers! Drmies (talk) 02:30, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

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Firebuild

 Doing... Please give me a minute. I had to read your message and try and sort out an edit conflict.--The Master of Mayhem 21:43, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

 Done All done.--The Master of Mayhem 21:47, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Hyphenation of "Branching random-walk"

There's a discussion of hyphenating "Branching random-walk", in which my English competency has been repeatedly questioned.

Perhaps a request for hyphenation guidance coming to you is as welcome as a comment that "mathematics was always my worst subject" is to me ....

Best regards,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz  (Discussion) 00:46, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Murray Waas article

I think you are right about all the links at the bottom of the Murray Waas article. They were excessive and too numerous. But it is customary to have a few links at the bottom of the article about the subject? I've seen them on other pages. Do you think it would be o.k. to include a very small number? I contribute to Wikipedia mostly about American politics, American history, and some journalism. Do you are more experienced than I am I think.

Also, you deleted the section on his book, saying it was dependent on a blog post by a co-author. Are objective reviews ok-- such as ones by the Columbia Journalism Review, the NYT, or Library Association. I defer to your greater experience on these things and judgment. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amalthean (talk • contribs) 03:02, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

• To take your second question first: yes, that would be fine. The section I removed was much too close to promotional. In regard to your first question: a couple of links are fine, and there is considerable leeway--but some guidelines are found in WP:EL. Thanks, and good luck, Drmies (talk) 03:11, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, you are absolutely right. Regarding the review of the book, the use of the publisher's press release and the blog post by the author were inappropriate. They were written a couple of years ago-- by some other contributor to the page. I rewrote it to include a review by the Columbia Journalism Review. And also deleted any information and even the press release from the publisher and instead used some info. and links from articles in USA Today, Columbia Journalism Review, and respected publishing industry publications and blog posts. Looked for a neg. review to balance out, but didn't find any. There were seven reviews of the book-- mostly all positive.

Any other advice you have greatly appreciated. I edit mostly on obscure subjects of American politics and history so don't get much feedback and also some on American media. Thanks again!

Thanks again for your help! I culled down the number of links on the Waas page to all but a few. If you think it is still many, I can remove more or all of them. I am not sure exactly how to do proper footnotes. Is there some place for guidance and instructions?

I also have been working on the Wikipedia pages of Robert Caro and a Congressman named Maurice Hinchey. If you would want to take a look at those and tell me if I am doing right, I would be appreciative. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amalthean (talk • contribs) 09:29, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

• Amalthean, I'll be glad to look at those when I get a moment. In the meantime--you can use four tildes (~~~~) to sign your name. As for those reviews, please don't feel obligated to 'balance' good reviews with bad ones. If bad ones exist and they're notable they should be cited, but this isn't Crossfire (TV series)|Crossfire]]; I sometimes feel we go overboard with this balancing of opinions. Some opinions are good and deserve to be cited, and a review by a notable and reliable source is one of those (not so sure about the blogs, but I haven't looked at them yet--those are usually accepted on a case-by-case basis). Thanks again for your note and for your contributions to Wikipedia: they are appreciated. Drmies (talk) 14:05, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi Drmies: I have done a ton of writing, editing, and footnoting (which was absent) from a page I have spent dozens of hours editing on Maurice Hinchey, a U.S. Congressman. There are a lot of obscure, and insignificant facts, cluttering up the article at the beginning. I wanted to put them at the end, and with a couple, that are really obscure, and not footnoted, just wanted to delete them. Should i just go ahead and do that and wait to see if I get a reaction. So far, nobody but me seems to care anything about the page-- and i am proud of improving it and actually writing huge new portions of it. Thanks again for your advice from a Wiki newbie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amalthean (talk • contribs) 06:46, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

• Well, first of all, you don't need anyone's approval to work on an article, but feedback is nice, of course. Most of those Hinchey edits seem fine to me (though three citation needed/dubious tags in one sentence, that's too many)--but that warrantless tapping criticism could do with more secondary sourcing (more than just one article), in my opinion. Also, references need to be cleaned up and consolidated; I'll do that for that hinchey.house.gov site. As for Waas, I don't rightly see why you reverted me and put that slew of links back. It would be helpful if you gave edit summaries explaining what you were doing. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:29, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi Drmies: hanks. I thought the more footnotes the more credible, but understand now. I think I have a NYT article or articles as a secondary source for that warantless wiretapping section. I think on the Waas links, I didn't revert them entirely, but cut out at least a third to a half of them-- culled them down and only included ones directly related to the subject. But I defer to your judgment if you think they should be deleted in their entirety. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amalthean (talk • contribs) 02:01, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks

Hello Drmies. Just a quick word of thanks about the EL that you removed on the Gandhi film page. That was the one that I debated in my own mind whether it was useful. I just find it odd that that "Aff123a" is leaving a message that new EL's must be discussed on talk pages first. That would seem to violate WP:BOLD among several other policies. I also think that new editors would find it odd that they can add links on some pages and not others. Thanks again and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 20:30, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

• Hi Marnette--it's no surprise that I looked at the article after I saw your edit go by. Yes, most of them seemed valid enough to me, except for that one. I thought your edit summary was interesting, and have looked at a few more of their edits--in some cases, they're spot on, in others they're not (see Honda Ridgeline). That message they're leaving, I think that's a leftover from some earlier standard template usage, and I personally don't care for it much; it's kind of a "don't walk on the grass" sign planted far, far away in the middle of the meadow--so you have to walk there to read it.

  In all honesty, I wish WP:EL was a bit more clear than it is. Thanks for your note, and keep up the good work, Drmies (talk) 23:38, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

And thanks for your response. I had also checked some of the edits and found that many of the EL removals were good ones. One other problem with the template that comes to mind - we now have a huge number of articles that don't seem to be on many watchlists (I think due to editor retirement and turnover) thus, if an editor followed that templates demand, they might never get a response to their request to add an EL. Ah well, these may be things that never get an answer. Thanks for your time and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 00:26, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: For your consideration

Would it be provoking this guy if I just clarified my comment? After reading it over, I don't think it made out what I meant to tell him. Therefore, I want to add a neutral note with NPOV language, which directly describes the intent of my first message. Would that be OK? --43?9enter ^☭msg_☭contribs 05:24, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

• Honestly, I really think you should leave it alone altogether. Any message from you just confirms that you are occupied with them one way or another, and they get a kick out of that. It's entirely up to you, of course, but if you ever want it to stop the best method is probably to ignore. Good luck, Drmies (talk) 13:59, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Cheers

Yeah thanks, it's just frustrating y'know. My experiences up till now had been overwhelmingly positive, I've been able to interact positively with almost everyone I've come across, even when I've disagreed with them, just using a small dose of diplomacy and common sense and it's not nice to bump into someone else who doesn't seem willing to make any effort in that regard. I'm unlikely to have any further dealings with him since I'm not in the slightest interested in Dr. Who.

Anyway thank you for your note, I hope all this hasn't sullied my reputation too much. (Incidently I like your infobox "This user has made over 10 contributions" - made me chuckle) Regards,Bob House 884 (talk) 20:29, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Richard Phipson

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• You're kidding, right? Drmies (talk) 15:57, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
  • I certainly hope so. Malleus Fatuorum 16:42, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
    • I reckon not--he did not accept my invitation to add to the article. But Favonian denied the speedy. Drmies (talk) 17:03, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
      • Looks like another kid on a charge towards RfA to me. Malleus Fatuorum 17:24, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
        • So it goes. Listen, could you spend a minute or two going over the references? I'll ask Johnbod to do the same thing, just so we can get consistent. You saw that I've used my standard system, but you two have more gold stars than I have vices, and I'd like to nominate it for DYK. (Not completely out of spite, mind you.) GA could be next, of course. If you're otherwise occupied that's fine, and I'll mess with it in a day or two. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 17:34, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
          • No problemo. Malleus Fatuorum 19:00, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
        • Their userpage claims they're at least 57 years old, but I guess the definition of "kid", like the universe, is still expanding :) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:52, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
          • People claim all sorts of things on their user pages. Like they're a pastor for instance. A deception that even got through RfA. "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see." Malleus Fatuorum 20:58, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
            • Yes, I remember the Pastor and the RfA. I'm all the way at the bottom, in the neutral column--obviously I bought into it too. I was rather shocked when the shit hit the fan--also because I thought I liked their master. Drmies (talk) 14:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Eggshells, treading, and so on

We need to be treading on eggshells with the green kids' FAC. I loved your addition of the Celtic connection, but I have a problem with this: "It may be more than a coincidence that the green girl marries a 'man of Lynn'" Have we mentioned Lynn elsewhere in the article? Malleus Fatuorum 18:53, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

• Yes--though I see now that there is a teenie-weenie thingie: it's mentioned earlier as "King's Lynn", but Alderson simply says "Lynn". (BTW, I don't know if he's really a historian or just some amateur antiquarian, who fill up the pages of N&Q.) And actually, it's more than a connection: it's really an allegorical reading, but that's probably pushing it (for FAC). And just to state the blatantly obvious: that's Alderson speaking. Drmies (talk) 19:03, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
  • OK, that's easily fixed. Malleus Fatuorum 19:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Muhammad Hassani

Hi Drmies. I agree, some of the claims in the article are quite bold (it is quite a mess, to be more precise), but I don't think it is a blatant hoax [2], [3], [4]. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 11:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

• Good call, Vejvančický. You obviously searched around better than I did. Have you removed the template? If not, I'll do that right away. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 14:44, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
• You did (or someone did). I'm going to work in these links that you dug up. Drmies (talk) 14:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey, you started clean up at the same time and the edit conflicts nearly caused me a heart attack! :) There's still some confusion: Jhalawan or Brahui? etc. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:02, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

• Oh, sorry--usually I'm on the short end of an edit conflict. I've only looked at the UN report and the Baluchistan narrative. I added an external link which (according to the UN report) should clear that up--or at least it should clear up that it can't be cleared up. Drmies (talk) 15:13, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Btw, look at Muhammed Hasni, it is the same ethnic group. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

• That's easily fixed--I followed up on your merge tag. Thanks--well spotted. Now we make more redirects (unless you've done that already also!). Drmies (talk) 15:17, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Good work, I think the article is now more consistent and informative. Thank you. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 15:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

No, thank you. You spotted my mistake in the first place. You know, it's a pity there already was an article with lots of text but no verified information--means that we'll not get a DYK out of this! Thanks again, Drmies (talk) 15:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Haitian occupation of Santo Domingo

Sorry but how does an event that occurs in 1822 directly related to something that occurs more than a century later in 1937 or 1915 or 1916? Thats like putting the current civil war in libya as a "see also" for the First Barbary War??? How are they related besides that they are the same country's?--El Mayimbe (talk) 01:38, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Well, same country, same island politics, two countries going back and forth over the same terrain, that seems to be a good enough reason. You and SamEV did a pretty good job of tag-teaming, and none of you ever considered to place a welcome template on the IP's user page, or to play nice, or to explain what the issue is. Instead, SamEV starts threatening with "You may lose your editing privilege if you continue", and you say "vandalism" in one of your edit summaries. None of you thought to explain anything to the IP editor--not even WP:3R, which they undoubtedly were guilty of, as are you (you reverted four times). Calm down, take it up with the IP editor, explain that this needs to be addressed on the article talk page, and try to reach consensus. Good luck. Drmies (talk) 01:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
  • I don't seem to understand you're first sentence, how can anything be looked at in a vacuum? Your use of deductive reasoning doesn't make sense to me in your argument. Anyway, I was also not aware of SamEv's actions in reverting this users edits, yet your mentioning of this lends credence to the fact that the said user is just changing the facts for what ever reason. Yet please accuse away of "tag-teaming" with again deducing, when clearly the problem is the IP editor.--El Mayimbe (talk) 01:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
    • In fact I just took a look at the IP users talk page and it seems that SamEV was already telling him about relevance issues in his links. Oddly thought you support the links?--El Mayimbe (talk) 02:01, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
      • I'm sorry if you don't understand my first sentence. I, on the other hand, don't know what you mean with 'vacuum.' I also don't see why the two of you seem to do everything you can to scare off this new editor. I've already cited what SamEV had to say (a rather unfriendly message), so that's not news. The problem is not the IP editor, the problem is that they don't know the rules because no one (that means you and SamEV) bothered to explain those to them. I suggest you read WP:BITE carefully, and summarize that behavioral guideline for SamEV on their talk page. Drmies (talk) 02:05, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
      • Oh, and undoing their edits one more time, that is not just asinine, it's also a pretty blatant violation of another rule, which I have already warned you about--I'll do so now with a template on your talk page. I don't need your response here: if you wish to do anything to improve this, apologize to that IP editor for acting like a jackass and try to explain in friendly words what you think the problem is. Drmies (talk) 02:07, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
        • "acting like a jackass..." I'm sorry the pot calling the kettle black? Don't forget about WP:PERSONAL. --El Mayimbe (talk) 02:17, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
          • Pff. I have no problem saying you acted like a jackass, cause you did, and you still are. And I see you still haven't apologized to that IP, who probably didn't know what the rules were and certainly didn't understand why two arrogant jerks kept reverting their edits without explaining why. Oh, I assume you didn't read WP:BITE, did you? Well, I can tell you that I don't know what WP:PERSONAL leads to--what I can tell you is that I am commenting on your embarrassing conduct, not on you personally. I'm sure your mother would speak differently to you. Now, stay the hell away from my talk page until you apologize to the IP editor. Drmies (talk) 02:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
            • Hello, Drmies. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--El Mayimbe (talk) 03:17, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
              • Oh, I'm scared now. Drmies (talk) 03:29, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
                • WQA is a children's playground; ignore it, as I do. Malleus Fatuorum 03:45, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Geographic databases

Hi Drmies

Just wanted to call your attention to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Geographic.org and the poll therein (there are a couple of relevant discussions at DGG's talk page User talk:DGG#Geonames and User talk:DGG#More Afghanistan.

Hope your summer plans are shaping up nicely. When's your first sabbatical and where are you going to take it?

^Bongo_matic 03:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hey Bongo! Naw, no fun plans, just teaching a class on modern Western lit. No sabbatical yet, I'm afraid--maybe next year, a semester or so. But judging from the past, that time will be spent working on the house, haha. Where are you going this summer? May I suggest a three-week cycling tour of Sweden? Visit Oland--it's beautiful in the summer, and the fish are yummy. Drmies (talk) 15:47, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Probably going to visit family for a couple of weeks, but have some projects that need attention (and I don't have the luxury of summer vacation). The kiddos aren't quite old enough for cultural pursuits yet, let alone bike tours, though sounds great. Best. ^Bongo_matic 23:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

I have a feeling the family is going to have a very hoppy summer, I just put together a 14' trampoline, and we could barely get the little guy off it...I am back to the Gobi, but will be back in NS in time for the Lobster Carnival, I can't wait to see them on the merry-go-round. And Doc, all your worries about going to Disney World are unfounded, it was awesome..-kelapstick^(bainuu) 12:14, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Hannah Murray

I just removed the image from this article. As it is a copyrighted screenshot, per WP:NFCC it cannot be used in the article about the actress who plays the character. – ukexpat (talk) 13:04, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for your note. This is obviously something I don't know a whole lot about. I had looked (briefly) at the file and its rationale but that didn't raise any red flag--I'll have to look more closely at NFCC, but in the meantime I gladly defer to you. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Criterion 1 of the NFCC is usually the killer in cases like this -- for 99.99% of living people is is possible for the non-free image to be replaced by a free one, by taking a picture of them and uploading it with an appropriate license. – ukexpat (talk) 16:25, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Richard Phipson

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the nice greeting you posted last year. At the moment I'm trying to get back into the swing of editing after my extensive break. Wish me luck! :) - Mgm|^(talk) 20:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• MGM! Wat een genoegen om je weer te zien! Good luck, and don't be a stranger! Drmies (talk) 00:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Olivia Shakespear

Hi, I just wanted to leave you a note thanking you for your helpful review of Olivia Shakespear which was promoted to FA a few days ago. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Well, thanks, but I barely did anything. Congratulations--it was a fine, fine piece of work and I read it with great interest. You and your fellow FA-writers do us proud. Drmies (talk) 00:55, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks for your copyediting over there, especially your catching my bad link. I have a bad habit of cutting and pasting that template and then refilling it in, and sometimes old data gets left in. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 04:04, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• No problem at all--I figured it was something like that. Thanks again for totally rewriting that article. Drmies (talk) 12:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Drmies. My head is swirling.

Dear Drmies, Thank you for your help. I've been flying "by the seat of my pants" on the Wikipedia edit page, and as you can see... I haven't been doing too well. My head is swirling with "Wiki" instructions, but I am still confused. It took me 30 minutes to figure how to send you this note, and I think it isn't correct even now.

I think I got the "Andrew Heinze" article looking okay now. I hope. As you can see, I don't know what I'm doing, but I will read the links you left for me. Next time I will do better (If I have the guts to try again). Now, I'm going to try that signature thing. Lord help me. Barbaraleespeaks (talk) 17:08, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

• Well, you seem to have done fine. Look at this edit and its summary, and keep in mind WP:RS and the need to cite reliable sources--by its very nature, a publisher's page on the book can't count as a reliable source. (Which reminds me: what matters is not so much truth but verifiability.) Now, your initiation into Wiki editing apparently went well. The next step is to stick to the mandate to edit in a neutral manner using reliable sources...there are a lot of editors, authors, and publishers who use Wikipedia as a promotional tool, so please be careful in the tone and writing of your content that you don't get cast with that lot. All the best, and let me know if I can help. Drmies (talk) 17:39, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Revdel request

Thanks for your explanation and your removal of the "grossly offensive" content. As a note of clarification: you said suppression was unwarranted, but Revdel was--I was under the impression that Revdel was indeed what I asked for. I see now that I went through Wikipedia:Requests for oversight, but I've done that before when asking for Revdel and there was never an indication of the difference between Revdel and oversight (I usually get a response, often from Alison, and they never commented on it). Browsing through the category "Wikipedia administrators willing to handle RevisionDelete requests" strikes me as burdensome--can't we have a button on Wikipedia:Revision deletion? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:49, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Any administrator can delete grossly offensive content. Only oversighters can suppress material from the view of administrators. So long as there isn't too much "business" the oversighters are happy to handle deletions, after all, there is not always an administrator handy that you can quietly contact. We could set up an account "User:Deletion and email could go to OTRS, I suppose. User:Fred Bauder Talk 18:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Now that would be a great idea. Let me know--I'd like to place a nice welcome template with cookies on that new user's talk page. Thanks for your response! Drmies (talk) 18:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I see it!!

Dear Drmies, I definitely see your point. I shouldn't have used a publisher's page AND... those reviews on that page lacked any exact information that could be verified - like Date, Journal number, who wrote it, etc. etc.). Soooo... the source I used THIS time is a good one... a well-known and scholarly source (The Journal of American Ethnic History no less). The person who wrote it is also a very well known and respected history professor (who is now at New York University).

Thanks for your excellent suggestions. I may not do this editing stuff much more though. I don't think I have the knack... and it makes me kinda anxious. Barbaraleespeaks (talk) 23:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

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inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manly "Little Pickles" Ortega

I'm suggesting at the AFD a redirect to High School Musical (film series)#Cast members where Manly is already mentioned and cited. Seem okay to you? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:22, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

• Responded there. Drmies (talk) 01:54, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Doc. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

re Santorum (sexual neologism)

• For now, just additional sourcing and research. But thank you for your kind words about GA quality. Any thoughts or input would be appreciated, going in that direction... ;) -- Cirt (talk) 06:44, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Sure thing. BTW, that "frothy" comment, that was priceless. Drmies (talk) 13:34, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
    • Which one? -- Cirt (talk) 15:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
      • Keira Knightley's. Weren't we watching TV at the same time? Drmies (talk) 15:35, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
        • Ah, indeed, quite! ;) -- Cirt (talk) 15:37, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Battle of Brunanburh (poem)

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Rewow

Yeah, that could certainly be the case for an indef, especially with the userpage vandalism. -- Cirt (talk) 17:52, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Sigh!

Cheers. Agricolae (talk) 19:43, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Given your literary interests

Care to expand on this? There is a link to a Variety article in the NYT reference, but it is blocked by my organization. The content section is a little light. Do you think we can make it to the main page? Do they allow the "F" word on the main page? --kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:32, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Just today I ran into some discussion about The Motherfucker With the Hat which was a DYK a few weeks ago. So, yes we can. I'll have a looksee! Drmies (talk) 02:50, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Sweet, at over 2,000 characters it is suitable for a DYK, what are you thinking for a hook? Bongo, care to chime in, care to nominate it? It would be a shame not to get in on this circus, seems like it would be right up CoMs ally. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
    • Whoa, eh, ahem. I just put it up. K, we have a winner here. An alternate hook could play on the Facebook comments. Drmies (talk) 04:14, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
      • You are too good for me, you also uploaded a book cover and put in an infobox while I was in the process of doing the same, had to have my upload deleted...Thanks Doc.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:15, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
        • Sorrry K. Then again, you added that apostrophe a split second before I did! Hey, if you have a moment--if you can write up Mansbach's biography, real brief, then that's a redlink gone. (I HATE writing biographies!) Drmies (talk) 04:16, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
          • Will do. I found the topic from an email from by brother, it had an MP3 of a radio program about it/reading it.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

<--Well done K, thanks. I can't wait to see how this does. Ha, if we can get it on DYK right after bedtime in the US... Drmies (talk) 04:38, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I look forward to seing how it will do. Have you put in your order for a copy yet? --kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:43, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Of course! It's waiting in my cart along with this--great bedtime music! (Actually, the girls have NPR on the radio while they're messing around.) Drmies (talk) 04:52, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Just requested a photo related to the book...we'll see. The article is certainly improving. We will have it to FA in no time. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 22:25, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Quick reply from him, happy to help, and has forwarded it onto the publisher.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 23:12, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Well done! Drmies (talk) 23:41, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

<--Hey, I got a notification via email that you changed my talk page. How does one turn that off, you know? Drmies (talk) 23:42, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Under preferences, at the bottom, for some reason mine was turned on, but nobody edits my talk page these days.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 23:46, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Yes, for some reason mine was one also--but yesterday was the first time I was ever notified. Odd. Drmies (talk) 00:45, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

I've wanted those notifications, but today was the first time I'd ever gotten one (from enwp anyway - I think I got notified once when some other language wp welcomed me). LadyofShalott 00:57, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

As for bedtime music, we went to the grocery store today, me and the five-year old, listening to Hot Sauce Committee Part Two. She wanted to play it so loud that I felt the bass blow air on my legs. Fun times! Drmies (talk) 00:47, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

I hope you're exposing those girls to some real music. LadyofShalott 00:57, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry Lady, I'm totally blue collar. I have a picture in my walled of the oldest, when she was three months old, in a Motorhead onesie. The best they can hope for is some Kronos Quartet--for a while, Five Tango Sensations was in rotation. But anytime you want to take them for a weekend and properly educate them, you're welcome to come and pick them up! Drmies (talk) 01:37, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

We might just have to arange a field trip one of these days... In other matters, I've just finished Part I of The Green Child, and I'm wondering why until these recent discussions with you and Malleus about the G.C. of Woolpit and this story, why I'd not heard of this book. LadyofShalott 03:15, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

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Master Manly Little Pickles of Fulton and Weddington

Is searchable, and there have been articles specificlly about him.[5] But he's still not Rin Tin Tin or Benji. Woof. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 09:23, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• They can't all be zingers, Michael. Did you have fun with my Chinese-American dancer/actress? Drmies (talk) 16:40, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

González-Mestres

I suggest it is unnecessary to get into a dialog with him. Things are at this point clear enough. DGG ( talk ) 17:26, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry, yes. Has someone started an SPI? Drmies (talk) 17:59, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Help required on my articles put up for deletion

Hi! Came across you on an AfD page. My articles have been put up for deletion, inspite of my addressing the problems from the time they were put for speedy deletion. I have added a lot of references, and that too from very reliable magazines of India as well as university journals, to establish the notability of my subjects. It would be great if you could be of some help. Check the deletion pages of R. Raj Rao, Do Paise Ki Dhoop,Char Aane Ki Barish, Freaky Chakra (Movie) and Mondo (film) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manorathan (talk • contribs) 07:56, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

• I've looked at two of them and indeed, they ought to be kept.

  I noticed something odd, though--a new user, User talk:Tunafish9, has come out of nowhere to comment on a couple of them. They seem to have borrowed your style of wiki-editing, including not signing posts and having certain grammar issues, and they have only worked on articles etc. that you have worked on also. I hope they don't come back, since that might easily make someone think something bad.

  Thanks for your note and your contributions (R. Raj Rao is pretty important, I think), Drmies (talk) 14:09, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

  • Tunafish9 is an established blogger from Mumbai, who told me she was driven to comment on it after reading the comment on R. Raj Rao that he is not notable enough. You might as well look up Tunafish's blogger profile to verify that we are two different wikipedians. I think she would be doing more editing on wikipedia, now that she had finally signed in.

    Many thanks for supporting my articles. Would you mind if I trouble you more? The article that I wrote for Mondo (film) and R. Raj Rao, and well, almost all my articles, might be biased with my being their fan. Would you be kind enough to help neutralise their tones? I am sorry for taking advantage of your kindness. But thanks in advance. Manorathan (talk) 15:25, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

    • No trouble at all. As a matter of fact I'm eating a tuna sandwich right now--thank you for clarifying. As for being a fan, I think India can do with more fans of gay writing, for instance, and I'm glad you are contributing such important articles. Sure, I'll look for tone and such. Most important thing though is to keep finding those reliable sources (and I will look at the other articles in the next day or two). Oh, in case you need a knowledgeable Indian administrator, knock on User:SpacemanSpiff's door. They're a bit lazy these days, or possibly looking for a new direction in life, so I'm sure they can do with a call to action. He's also a nice guy. Good luck, Drmies (talk) 16:04, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

<--OK, the results of your SPI are in. You had a sock puppet and got blocked for it. Tunafish is most likely a meat puppet, according to other editors. Do not be using socks again, and do not have someone else do the work for you. If the work is good and the topic is notable, it should stand on its own two feet. I hope you learn something from this experience/block, and that it won't happen again. Drmies (talk) 02:15, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

D.B.L. Article

I'm having a bit of trouble with your commenting on "name-dropping" when Donny B. Lord works with the individuals that have been cited in the article. Regarding "chit-chat" and whom the artist was mentored by, you can Google that and find out where the relationship is. I'm a little upset with the claim regarding the status of nobility or legitimacy of the sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AllAroundTheWorld2011 (talk • contribs) 02:40, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• This is the epitome of namedropping, from the lead of the article: "He has also most recently worked alongside Yolande Geralds[3] a prominent Music video director and Music executive formerly the Vice President of Video Production at Atlantic Records and frequent collaborator of Trey Songz." And that was sourced to this. Now please show me how a. that is a reliable source (see WP:RS) and b. where on that page your man is mentioned. I'm sorry you're upset, but Wikipedia has rules. Thank you for your message. Drmies (talk) 03:14, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up

Check my edit history. Been able to address some of the issues. Kind of sad that it appears the nominator may have made his nominations as a retaliatory act that could be blockable. Hope that is not the case and he simply made honest errors in judgement. ANY admin that comes by should speedy close them as inappropriate nominations. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 03:31, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• I noticed--thanks. So the nominations are made in bad faith, it seems, and the creator is now blocked (24h) for socking. Great fun! Again, thanks for checking on it, and for checking in. Drmies (talk) 03:33, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
  • I think the newbie author did what he did only in reaction to being singled out, and as his articles are indeed on notable targets, will understand that his contributions ARE welcome... if he does not resort to socking out of frustration. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:01, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

About User:Tyw7/t#Welcoming editors who have not made any contributions

Hi Drmies,
What made me suspicious of those edits was that there was no record of any contributions, deleted or not, for each of those editors. Nevertheless, I did not assume good faith. I subtlety accused User:Tyw7 of sockpuppetry without evidence. Tyw7 has probably done the right thing and WP:WELCOMEd editors whose first contibutions were deleted, resulting in a "no contributions" for them. Haven't checked yet, but if this is so, I will owe both you and Tyw7 a very serious apology. And, if you apply any sanction whatsoever to me, it will be deserved, and uncontested. --Shirt58 (talk) 13:39, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I see what you mean now. Yes. Well, I welcome new editors all the time when they pop up on Recent changes, as soon as they create their account; in other words, editors don't have to see that anyone has edited before they know those editors exist--I think you are assuming that one cannot 'see' an editor unless they have made actual edits: that's not so. I saw you were implying something, and now I understand what it was that you were thinking of. Really, you don't owe me anything, but I would encourage you drop a note to Tyw7 (even though many aspects of their editing are troubling), and that humbling move is sanction enough, methinks. All the best, and thank you for your message here, Drmies (talk) 16:19, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi Dr Mies. Risking being a shown as a complete shmuck, I've looked up those "users" on Toolserver.

Results:

• User talk:小公主: "小公主 does not exist"
• User talk:Wachinga.M.: 1 edit
• User talk:Darklordsmasma: 1 edit
• User talk:F6portugal: no edits
• User talk:Vissu.natali: no edits
• User talk:Adewuye: no edits
• User talk:Geldino:no edits

I really do most always WP:AGF, and I am most loath to kick someone while they are down, but I really am concerned about our fellow wikipedian, User:Tyw7 ---Shirt58 (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, in the meantime they retired. There is a sock warning on their talk page, and I left a question at User talk:MuZemike--MuZemike is great at laundry. Thanks for your note, Drmies (talk) 14:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that

accidentally clicked rollback on a touch device.

• No worries! Thanks for keeping an eye on the article. Drmies (talk) 17:24, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Red link at WP:BLP/N

Hello Drmies. In WP:BLPN#Luis González-Mestres you have left a red link ("Edit war brewing..") that is probably supposed to point to something real. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:29, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Ah yes, thanks! Sloppy pasting on my part. Drmies (talk) 17:35, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Want to play in the sand?

I've barely, barely begun this, but Ricardo Cortés promises to be an interesting fellow. LadyofShalott 19:59, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Oh Lady, are you being saucy? Reading too many 'novels'? Drmies (talk) 20:04, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
• I added a ref, but I'm having a bit of a hard time, frankly. Of course of Mansbach gets expanded and Cortes gets created up to DYK standards, it can become a triple whammy. Drmies (talk) 20:12, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I posted this before realizing just how tough it was going to be, but I'll do what I can with it. Feel free to join in or not as you like. (As for your first bulleted questions, no comment.) LadyofShalott 20:21, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. He does seem interesting, and the illustrations are very pretty. Is writing a biography more fun than coming up with yet another syllabus for Western Lit 2? Drmies (talk) 20:23, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

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