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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:ISIS_/_ISIL_/_IS not deleting them but move them where they should go with help please

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hi i am sorry about the is isis isil pages i would like to not delete them until i have had a chance to go over them what i would like is to save them where they are draft or something like that so not to loose them. if you would be so kind as to point me in that direction and i will do what it takes to do it the correct way next time. i am just a bit lost on the process and would like direction if that is possible David c welch that includes all the books i had been and will be working on thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by David.c.welch (talk • contribs) 23:01, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

pLEASE ALLOW CRITICISM OF WIKIPEDIA.

CRITICISM MEANS YOU WILL NOT LIKE IT: ACCEPT THAT. wHY HAVE AN ARTICLE NAMED CRITICISM IF YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO ACCEPT STATEMENTS ABOUT WIKIPEDIA THAT YOU DO NOT LIKE. ParvisStPierre (talk) 00:02, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism means I will say things you do not like: everyone understands that. You should too: you will not like what I say: that is what criticism means. Accept it. Or do you think I will state things you like on the "criticism" page?? ParvisStPierre (talk) 00:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They would have been removed because it was all original research, or at best uncited, and full of opinion. The writing is also very poor. Half Hat 00:14, 11 January 2015 (UTC) Edit you also appear to have violated WP:3rr please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia policy. Half Hat 00:17, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Answer to your question on ArbCom Case

Regarding this on the talk page, DungeonSiegeAddict510 confirmed the doxing in this edit on his talk page back in November. No need for him to risk his breaking his t-ban to confirm. — Strongjam (talk) 15:23, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, Titanium Dragon was also doxed. Tutelary was actually doxed twice. Once by Wikipediocracy (in the form of a photo) for inserting some of the material about Quinn and another time by 8chan for noting the pedophilia issue in that site's article.--The Devil's Advocate _{tlk. cntrb.} 07:23, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you should link to the actual case where Starship provided the evidence against Tarc. It is here.--The Devil's Advocate _{tlk. cntrb.} 07:45, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, didnt notice the case had been archived. As for Titanium Dragon, the reason I didnt list him is because (as he commented in the ANI thread) he didn't seem particularly bothered by it and felt his identity was no secret. If @Titanium Dragon: feels I've misrepresented him, I'd be willing to mention him too. Bosstopher (talk) 12:09, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Who I am is a matter of public record (I use this identity all over the internet, and do so in a number of places in conjunction with my real life name - it is more of a pen name than a pseudonym, as I'm not trying to hide my identity), but feeling more or less victimized by it is irrelevant - we should certainly not reward people for overreacting to such things. The group which did this did not realize that my screen name and real name were publicly linked. Doxxing is, fundamentally, a threat and an attempt at intimidation. "If you don't like what you do we'll find your real name (and real photographs of you, in the case of Tutelary) and write an article smearing you." I will note that the reason that they didn't call me misogynistic was probably because they found one of my blog posts about feminism. The thing which is most bothersome about it is that they tried it in the first place, and that Gamaliel expressed his opinion there:

"If we had more power to block obvious SPAs and agenda pushers, then less of this stuff would happen, but every time we even attempt to take action against these types, there’s a chorus of OMG ADMIN ABUSE!!!!1!, and the loudest ones are people from this site. Make up your mind."

Shortly before he applied the first (rescinded) topic ban. Titanium Dragon (talk) 22:17, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I apologise, I wasnt aware about the username being linked to your real life name, and you're right, not feeling victimised doesnt make it justified in any way. Will update. Bosstopher (talk) 23:12, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your revert

Any idea why your revert is showing as a pending change? You are obviously a confirmed editor. Strange--Two kinds of pork^Makin'_Bacon 12:59, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The articles been put on PC2 level protection, so only admins and editors with reviewer rights get auto approved. I guess I should probably apply for them. Bosstopher (talk) 13:04, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In that case I accepted the change for you, but you should reply to the new section I just started.Two kinds of pork^Makin'_Bacon 13:08, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Help Appreciated!

How do I do that Drive thing? The only reason I HAVEN'T edited an article itself yet was because I didn't want to go in and muck things up while I still don't know how everything works. Assuming I am not indef banned, this will provide some great hands on experience... if I can figure out how it works. AnsFenrisulfr (talk) 13:03, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there thanks for responding. One of the best (and also worst) things about wikipedia is, that nobody cares what shit you put on an article if it isnt about a so called "controversial topic" such as Israel/Palestine, Gamergate or Tree Shaping. After I first got involved in editing the Gamergate page I started getting worried that people would revert even the most harmless of edits I made to any page, but thankfully (or perhaps not depending on your point of view), it isn't so! It's amazing the feeling of satisfaction you get when you make an edit to an article that isn't reverted after 30 seconds (or maybe I'm just a bit weird). But wikifying is mostly harmless. You dont have to add or take any content, so there's no way for you to end up accidentally defaming someone. See this page for instructions. Also you can get cool snazzy awards, and there's a whole competitive aspect to it. It's not really the most exciting form of editing their is, but it's soothing and you end up learning a lot about random things through wikifying random articles. If you're still very worried about making mistakes, I'd be willing to skulk through your contribs a bit to make sure you haven't accidentally exploded anything. Good luck!Bosstopher (talk) 13:23, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am not so much worried, as cautious. I am aware of Wikipedia's policy, Be Bold, but Boldness shares a coin with Recklessness. I have chosen to be cautious as I learn how to be a wikipedian, since from my standpoint, it would be the best way to learn. I raise ideas that I believe are valid in talk pages, if I am right, it can be confirmed and I can propose a change. If I am wrong, I can be informed of such, learn where I was wrong, and use that for the future. Unfortunately... it appears my choice to stick to talk pages to avoid people claiming I am a POV pushing SPA... has somehow made people think I am a POV pushing SPA. The irony is palpable. More on topic, I definitely could use someone looking over my shoulder for my first attempts. Wikipedia is a loooot to take in at once, and I have spent quite a few days worth of man-hours going through guidelines and regulations. @_@ AnsFenrisulfr (talk) 13:58, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is there anyway/anywhere I could go to get help editing Wikipedia in real time? If I can be guided through my first edits, I will pick it up quickly. AnsFenrisulfr (talk) 22:41, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well I've never tried it myself but apparently WP:ADVENTURE is quite handy. Bosstopher (talk) 23:11, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The user in question is canvassing under his real name. Hipocrite (talk) 19:41, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, I was unaware people actually used the gamergate.me website. I thought it was dead.Bosstopher (talk) 20:15, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Supercallifragilisticexpialidocious

Would you be so kind as to remove my page from your watchlist? I am not hiring nannies at this time. Tarc (talk) 16:09, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing, just kind of had it on watch from ages ago and never bothered to take it off. Please keep my CV on file in case of future vacancies. Bosstopher (talk) 16:27, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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So, so nice of you!

for this, thank you! I would give you some wikilove but i gotta run. but thank you!! Jytdog (talk) 17:46, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Reichstag

The reason the Reichstag was little-used during the years of Nazi rule is that it had been burnt in a notorious fire. Its symbolic importance is great -- at least among those of us who detest the memory and legacy of the Reich. Thanks so much for your editorial advice. It’s been nice knowing you; have a good life. MarkBernstein (talk) 23:04, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@MarkBernstein: It has now occurred to me that I forgot to follow that link at the end of your blog post (the one linking to the article about the reichstag fire), while making a comment about you failing to follow a link in someone elses post. I apologise for the hypocrisy, insensitivity, and holier-than-though false historical know-it-all posturing. I haven't touched any modern German history in the last 4 years. I was aware of the fire, and it's aftermath but didnt particularly think of the Building as anything holding particular significance. For the insensitivity of my comments I am deeply sorry. Nonetheless I still believe you have misunderstood the comments of Rhoark and colacid, and ask that you refrain from jumping the gun as I have done. Bosstopher (talk) 23:22, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate request

Well this is awkward. Not sure how to proceed.— Strongjam (talk) 00:15, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn my one sorry. I thought this was like with [Wikipedia:General sanctions/Syrian Civil War and Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant|ISIL sanctions]] where you report to 3RR noticeboard. Should read the small print more thoroughly next time. Bosstopher (talk) 00:17, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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TIL an inanimate object falls under the "biography of a living person" category. Anyway, there's absolutely no good reason for commenting on a talk page to be a bannable offense, and honestly just shows how far you people are going to keep your little echo chamber alive against all reason and facts. you are the cancer that is killing Wikipedia. Bumblebritches57 (talk) 17:46, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Your comment was neither "reason," nor "facts." It was just you insulting someone. Imagine what the reaction would have been if you'd walked into a job interview for Encyclopedia Britannica and that had been the first thing you said (although of course you can obviously get away with a lot more as a free volunteer on a website, there are still limits). If you had proposed, reasonable and factual changes to the article which were backed up by reliable sources, instead of just posting unconstructive attacks on living people, there would have been no reason for you to be topic banned. Please keep this in mind, when editing other topic areas from now on.Bosstopher (talk) 19:08, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Emma Goldman Essay

Great work on the edit of that 'article nominated for deletion.' I copied and pasted the essay itself, and the body of the article-as-it-was. The article was 20% of the size of the essay. Tapered (talk) 01:33, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. Bosstopher (talk) 17:48, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. I think you meant March not November on the arbcom case Collect and others. No big deal since I've been told I have a 19th century philosophy!--MONGO 19:40, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. Thanks for your attention. Actually Wikipedia is very extensive and I have not become familiar with it completely. Of course, I have a question. As you know I am interested in Iranian revolution. I saw in this page some information which is true but is not suitable for this page. For example this one: “Led by the leftist intellectual Saeed Soltanpour (later executed by the Islamic Republic), the Iranian Writers Association… ” This information is true, but is not suitable for this page. I think “later executed by the Islamic Republic” is irrelevant to Iranian revolution and must be used in page of Saeed Soltanpour or Islamic republic of Iran or something like that. Am I right? Do I have permission to delete it? Is there a rule in Wikipedia in such cases? Munifi3nt (talk) 08:01, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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This is what Iranian law says:

- "نکاح دختران قبل از رسیدن به سن 18 سال تمام خورشیدی، و پسران قبل از رسیدن به سن 20 سال تمام خورشیدی، ممنوع است. ولی در موارد استثنایی که مصالحی اقتضا نماید، کلیسا می‌تواند با معافیت از شرط سن موافقت نماید، ولی به هیچ وجه به دختران کمتر از 16 سال تمام خورشیدی، و پسران کمتر از 18سال تمام خورشیدی، اجازه ازدواج داده نخواهد شد.".

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