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Here Zhao Mengfu depicts the changing seasons with profound vibrancy and delicacy. The artist brought the work to his friend Zhou Mi—who had been exiled for refusing to work in the Mongol-controlled court—in hopes of comforting him with a reminder of the home to which he will never return. Autumn Colors on the Qiao and Hua Mountains, Zhao Mengfu, 1295

ITN recognition for Alexander Goehr

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On 1 September 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Alexander Goehr, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. – robertsky (talk) 14:24, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your part! What do you think of my short version of his life? I wanted to match the pic, and arrived at Brian's Monteverdi, nicely matching yesterday's Vespers. (Monteverdi dedicated it to the Pope on 1 September, and be performed it on 1 Septembe 2019.) I had forgotten the Poppea discussion that I revisited in the process ;) - Much ado about nothing. Do you think that the time has come for the opera to give the reader time and place at a glance, as 1000+ other operas do? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today's story has 3 composers, I couldn't decide for the one on the Main page or the one who didn't make it on his bicentenary, so took both, and the pic has a third. Listen if you have a bit of time. The music, played by the Kyiv Symphony Orchestra in Germany in April 2022 impressed me. - The latest places were museums in Frankfurt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:28, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recommended reading today: Frye Fire, by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy because my story today is about a Czech mezzo soprano who is mentioned on the Main page on her birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk)

Happier about Bach's cantata on the Main page on its 300th birthday (per calendar), my story (again)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to see! I added the soprano's book to the further reading section of her great-grandfather. You could include the full citation on her page as well, if you want Aza24 (talk) 21:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, will do. - Three stories related to today in memory, 11 September, 20 July and 20 June, the latter piece of art also pictured on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:03, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today is Schoenberg's 150th birthday! On display, portrayed by Egon Schiele, with a DYK hook from 2010 and another from 2014, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday. - See places for a stunning sunrise, on the day Bruckner's 200th birthday was celebrated (a few days late). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Today I think of a man who stood up for Peaceful Revolution, sadly because he died, and the cantata Bach composed for today's 16th Sunday after Trinity. That was not written by me, only marginally when I updated early beginnings. Then came Nikkimaria, then Francis Schonken, then - and mostly - Mathsci. The result is epic. I dream of making Bach's chorale cantatas a featured topic, so nominated it for GA (Francis and Mathsci can't.) You were the first one coming to my mind as a reviewer who could do justice to it. I know that you are busy, - what do you think? (Just explaining why I thanked you for a space earlier today.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to talk a look! It may be a few days before I can get to a review on my end—hope that's okay. Haha I was wondering what that thank you was about! Aza24 (talk) 04:32, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great, no rush. I'll try to have it OTD on the day of the first performance, and then it's not eligible for DYK anyway, besides being too late, and me not enjoying DYK much because ... --/forgot to sign)
Ach, lieben Christen, seid getrost, BWV 114, is one of the pieces in my topic of this year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:04, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My story today features a pic I took from my position in the choir, I can also offer varied delightful music, some from Venice, also with pics I took, - note the rose in the clarinet ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:53, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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DCWC September update

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The Developing Countries WikiContest has now been running for two months, and we've seen tremendous improvement in the encyclopedic coverage of several underrepresented areas from a wide range of editors! The coordinators would like to highlght some of the newer faces who have been making notable contributions in the contest, including but by no means limited to:

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Women in Green's "Around the World in 31 Days" GA Editathon – October 2024

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Hello Aza24:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2024!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2024, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

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A request

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Hey, if you're not too busy, would you be interested in reviewing Jochi at FAC? If not, don't worry. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:45, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try to, but no promises :) Aza24 (talk) 00:10, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Richard Dyer (music critic)

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On 24 September 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Richard Dyer (music critic), which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Schwede66 09:20, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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October music

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You may remember Maryvonne Le Dizès, my story today as on 28 August. Some September music was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with Ligeti mentioned in story and music. - I see that yu are busy, - will you still do the GA review? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I thought of you when I saw this Monument to the Genius of Beethoven (Dem Genius Beethovens). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of course I also thought of you for the songs by Hildegard of Bingen. Today Rohan de Saram - unbelievable story --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:24, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today I remember an organist who was pictured on the Main page on his birthday ten years ago, and I found two recent organ concerts to match, - see top of my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Today brought a timely promotion of Helmut Bauer to the Main page on the day when pieces from Mozart's Requiem were performed for him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:06, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I made Leif Segerstam my big story today. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:48, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My story today is a cantata 300 years old, based on a hymn 200 years old when the cantata was composed, based on a psalm some thousand years old, - so said the 2015 DYK hook. I had forgotten the discussion on the talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world richer. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic of assorted Cucurbita in 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DCWC closing update

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The 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest has come to a close! After a thrilling finish to the event with a slew of submissions on the final day, we have our winners. With 608 points, Bronze Belt Buckle – 3rd place Thebiguglyalien (submissions) comes in third with his series of Kiribati and Botswanan submissions; Silver Belt Buckle – 2nd place Tuvalu BeanieFan11 (submissions) flies into second place at the last second with 771 points after a string of good articles about sportspersons; and after leading for much of contest's three months, Gold Belt Buckle – 1st place Generalissima (submissions) finishes with a whopping 798 points to take home the Gold Belt Buckle. Congratulations to our winners!

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Last push needed for Byzantine Empire FAR

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Hi Aza24, from your page header I can glean that you are busy with IRL stuff. However, the Byzantine Empire FAR was opened on 30 October 2023, and thus will complete a full year in 23 days. We should try to make a last push and have it kept before this month ends. Your help is needed for the rewrite of the Arts section. The Literature subsection is already done, now only the Architecture, Art and Music subsections remain. I think the Renaissance subsection already meets FA standards and doesn't need much work. Do you think these can be rewritten within 23 days? Please let me know if you can work on this. Matarisvan (talk) 13:08, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Matarisvan, I would love to finish up the arts section but am hesitant on the timeline. I've already started on art in my sandbox (User:Aza24/sandbox) and I am very familiar with Byzantine music already, so don't expect that to be too difficult, but whether I could finish it up this month is uncertain because of my busy schedule at the moment.
Another concern I have is that even if we did finish the rewrite this month, the article needs a bit more than that. We had spoken extensively on the talk page on how the overall structure is rather uneven but Biz has convinced us to return to that once the rewrite is complete. But there are many sections which ought to be removed entirely (the Renaissance one, for instance), or content that needs to be rethought (where/how to talk about iconiclasm). Aza24 (talk) 04:03, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I completely understand. If you could just wrap up the Music subsection, we would only have 2 subsections in the Arts section, namely Art and Architecture, left to be rewritten; since Literature is already done and Renaissance is up for removal. Also, I think we should at least put it up for comprehensive reviews at FAR before the 30th so we can spot any issues we might not be seeing now. I have seen reviewers spot obvious issues which frequent editors miss due to getting used to the article layout. Worst case, we go back to the drawing board, the review has advanced far enough that we may get very few FARC votes. Would you agree? Matarisvan (talk) 18:16, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 2024

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Information icon Before removing a category to an article, as you did to Category:Musicians from Imperial China, please make sure that the subject of the article really belongs in the category that you specified according to Wikipedia's categorization guidelines. The category being added must already exist, and must be supported by the article's verifiable content. Categories may be removed if they are deemed incorrect for the subject matter. Please review the rest of the category trees. There is no reason to exclude a nationality like you're doing. Mason (talk) 03:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Smasongarrison, I don't think boilerplate templates for something between two experienced editors is anything but provocative. I'd suggest you look at the medieval music article; the topic is discussed by academic sources chiefly on Western Europe. There is no "narrow definition", this simply is the definition. Your insistence for including "Musicians from Imperial China" in "medieval musicians" is a complete invention for categories, which one would hope, at least pretend to follow RS. Would you add Ming Dynasty musicians to Renaissance musicians, and then Qing dynasty musicians to Baroque musicians? You are imposing a universality for a Western framework that does not exist.
Even if you ignore the above, Imperial China lasted from 221 BCE to 1912 CE, how exactly does that line up with 500–1400? Medieval China is a very specific period, c. 200 – 975 CE, how could any of this make sense? Aza24 (talk) 04:41, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You know what... I don't think this is going to be a productive conversation. You do have reasonable points, however, I think you're the one imposing a western framework by removing the category by arguing that the era is only for westerns. Would you remove Category:Musicians of the medieval Islamic world because they're not western? Mason (talk) 04:49, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison, I feel we're still talking past each other. Unfortunately, these are problems of such bizarre nuance, that Wikipedia may be the only place in musicology which has ever faced them. I find it strange that you're convinced I am "arguing that the era is only for westerns". I am simply talking about the term "medieval music", not the Middle Ages. Every book/class/article etc. about medieval music talks about Western music during the middle ages, that is simply how the term is used. There is no such thing as a term to encompass deeply different and oftentimes completely unrelated musical cultures from the years 500–1400.
This being said... my best suggestion would be for a creation of a Post-classical music category (see Post-classical history), which would could then separate medieval music from Chinese, Islamic etc.. This is, of course, not a common term, but neither is the idea of a unified global music between the years 500–1400. Aza24 (talk) 05:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that we're talking past each other. My point is that it looks like you are removing the category because they're not a western nation. I understand that you're arguing about the genre. But I don't think that the category is limited to a genre of musician. I think you're right that this category doesn't fit based on the centuries covered, but I think you should consider the fact that there are many other categories related to medieval occupations that aren't music or arts related. Mason (talk) 13:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of accolades received by Oppenheimer (film) -- source review

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Hi there,

Could you do a source review for List of accolades received by Oppenheimer (film) for featured list promotion? Birdienest81talk 07:07, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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November music

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greetings from a trip -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang Hevenu shalom aleichem at his funeral yesterday, and it was good. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:36, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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