User talk:78.26/archive2014-2

The Mel Blanc Show

I have posted an article about The Mel Blanc Show, if you would like to see it.Eddie Blick (talk) 14:12, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for DYK support re: The Mel Blanc Show

I just read your comments regarding my DYK nomination from The Mel Blanc Show. Thank you! I appreciate your support as I continue to learn more about working with Wikipedia. Eddie Blick (talk) 13:59, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, congratulations. Since I hadn't really made any significant contributions to the article or the DYK nom, I reviewed that one, and it was promoted to mainspace exposure almost immediately, as opposed to Saint which had been sitting, approved, for a long time before it was put on mainspace. Meanwhile Joy just sits there in limbo, I commented there to hopefully help move it along. However, two DYKs in two days, great job, and congratulations! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 14:03, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

I am amazed at -- and appreciative of -- having two DYK items in two days! I have another article that is about ready to post (probably today). I'll add a note here to let you know when it is posted. Eddie Blick (talk) 14:17, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

The Dreft Star Playhouse

I have posted an article about The Dreft Star Playhouse. It's not very long because I couldn't find many sources for it. Even so, I think little-known old-time radio shows should be included on Wikipedia. Eddie Blick (talk) 18:24, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, at 1600 charachters of prose text it is still eligible for DYK. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 19:23, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm ... I'll see what I can come up with.Eddie Blick (talk) 21:30, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

A question

Does Wikipedia offer a way of creating something akin to a discussion group wherein people with a shared interest could discuss that interest? I'm thinking that if something like that were available for people interested in old-time radio, participants could discuss topics for new articles and needs for beefing up weak existing articles. We could also discuss reference materials (especially those that are available via the Internet), and in particular share new resources that we discover.

Soon after joining Wikipedia, I joined something called a Tea Room, but I haven't been active in it because most of the topics didn't interest me (or I didn't know enough about them to contribute), but something specialized like a group focused on OTR could be beneficial for all who participate, perhaps allowing participants to coordinate efforts on some projects.

This may be outside your field of expertise, but you have been so helpful in the past that I thought I would ask. Eddie Blick (talk) 21:30, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Eddie, sorry I've been irresponsive lately. I'm in the process of moving across the country, so likely won't be much help for the next month. Wikipedia does have "Wikiprojects." You'll notice I've added "WikiProject Radio" to several of the pages you've created. Some of these projects are active, some are mostly dormant, but that is where I'd start. I'm aware of no useful discussion areas regarding Wikipedia, outside Wikipedia. The ones I know of have all devolved into anti-administrator gripe sessions. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 13:48, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into that. Best wishes as you move across the country. Having been involved in several moves myself (but none recently), I know how difficult and time-consuming the process can be. I'm still working on OTR-related articles. I have one about Crime Doctor that I will probably post today, and I've started research on Famous Jury Trials. The two programs are barely mentioned in the existing articles Crime Doctor (film), Crime Doctor (character) and the Famous Jury Trials TV show.

16:47:20, 4 July 2014 review of submission by PeakSales

• PeakSales (talk · contribs)
  • Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sales Recruitment (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi there, I think I made the required revisions to the article. If they still do not meet Wikipedia's requirements, will I be penalized? Is there a limited number of draft submission I can make or is it a max of 3?

Thanks. PeakSales (talk) 16:47, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

First, I apologize for the delay in responding, I haven't been able to edit here much, busy in real life and all that.

There is no limit to the number of drafts that can be submitted. This still reads like a "how-to" guide to me, and the sources don't necessarily support the statements. For instance, your article says "The sales recruiting process is a six step method..." Says who? I'll bet there are people who say it is a 5-step process, or other recruiters who have an 8-step process. However, I do see a couple of issues for which you could be "penalized", as in blocked and made incapbable of editing here at all. One of your sources given is "www.peaksalesrecruiting.com". Given your user name, you have a clear conflilct of interest. Please carefully read the conflict of interest guidelines. This would likely be considered spam, and as such is a really, really bad idea. You also need to change your user name ASAP, because a Wikipedia ID belongs to an individual, and is not allowed to represent a group or entity (see WP:GROUPNAME). I hope that is of assistance to you. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 14:36, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks re: 1) Dick Joy DYK and 2) Blanc article

Today's DYK has the Dick Joy item. I read the exchange that went on behind the scenes, and I thank you for your support in that discussion. Also, I just saw in the history of The Mel Blanc Show page that someone had deleted the log in "External links" and you restored it. Thanks for doing that, too! I don't know why someone considered that page to be spam.

Precious again

music
Thank you, composer, player and listener, for quality articles on music, recording and related people, such as Costanzo Antegnati and Robert Leonhardt, and for musically phrased reviews, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 541st recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:19, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: There are a lot of nice people here on Wikipedia who have done a lot of nice things for me, but this has been the nicest. Thank you! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 13:56, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Tell me, you claim 25 DYK, and I count 28?? Can you organise them, expecting hundreds more to come? Example pictured. - I recently mentioned "my" opera house, DYK? - Discussions open for Beethoven and Don Giovanni, btw. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:06, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

I have created 25 DYK, three others are those I nominated and guided through the process, but did little on the articles themselves. Per your request I have created a DYK page. Thanks! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 15:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Off to church. If nobody else gives you the medal I will on returning ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:46, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

I hope your spirit will be lifted in musical participation! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 15:49, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Lifted in listening to Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565 on our church organ, with pleasure --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:18, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Elmo Tanner

From my reading of the advertisement, he wasn't strictly "selling Datsuns," but rather was a disc jockey for radio station WILZ making promotional appearances at the Datsun dealership. (So I moved the link up a bit to support the statement that he was working as a DJ at WILZ.) Although I doubt it, I suppose it's possible that he was working both as a DJ at WILZ and as a car salesman at the Datsun dealership at the same time. And the ad doesn't say that he'll be there for one or more specific appearances only, but will "give each person who drops by to test drive a DATSUN" a copy of his record. Still, while it's not terribly clear, I don't think that qualifies him as a car salesman. It just struck me as being a little misleading, as if he had gone from being a world famous recording artist to a DJ at a local AM station to a car salesman at a Datsun dealership. (It kind of sounds like a downward spiral, leaving one to expect his next position to be a Walmart greeter, and then a homeless person living in an empty large appliance carton under the Interstate!) But I agree, it's an interesting tidbit -- perhaps it should be added back in to make it clear that he was making promotional appearances while still working as a DJ. Jhw57 (talk) 14:30, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I see what happened, the google URLs do not work, so you removed the reference. I found it again [1], which explicitly states he was working for the dealership. Thanks for your reply and assistance, truly appreciated. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 15:50, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Wow, so he did actually move from being a radio DJ to being a car salesman! Great research work -- always a delight to see that kind of effort here -- thanks for clearing it up! Jhw57 (talk) 11:55, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Colorado State University Libraries Editathon

Hi talk:78.26,

No problem, and thanks for the feedback. I wasn't sure where to put the page and I appreciate the suggestions.

Thanks again!

129.82.29.5 (talk) 14:55, 23 July 2014 (UTC)bibliophage01

I am glad the page was userfied instead of deleted, I wish I'd been bright enough to think of that solution. If I were closer to Colorado, I'd really enjoy joining your worthwhile project. Thanks for setting it up! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 16:11, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

OTR Resources Page Created

I know that you are on a break from Wikipedia, but I'm posting this note anyway, so that it will be awaiting you the next time you check in. I have created a page, User:Teblick/Online Resources for Old-Time Radio Research, that I hope will be useful to other people who are interested in research related to old-time radio. When you have time, I would appreciate your feedback about the page. Also, do you know of any better place to put it than in my user space? It doesn't qualify as a Wikipedia article, so I don't know where else to put it. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:49, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Sweet! Break isn't from wiki-stress or anything of the sort, but the fact that I am going to be very busy for the next four weeks or so with several real-life projects, not the least is moving a couple thousand miles. That is a great resource, and hats off to you for creating it! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:41, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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00:35:42, 6 August 2014 review of submission by Hollywood6035

• Hollywood6035 (talk · contribs)
  • User:Hollywood6035 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

hi, I am not necessarily wanting a review but I'd like to know how to fix the article to be resubmitted. I do not see any comments to that effect or I have missed them. Thank you. Hollywood6035 (talk) 00:35, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Please read both the text in the gray part of the pink decline box, as well as the detailed comments I left below it (by the yellow attention symbol.) I would also spend some time reading Referencing for Beginners. I hope that helps. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 13:33, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

James Gleason as Hopalong Cassidy?

I remember that you commented about an interest in James Gleason and someone else on radio, but I was unsuccessful in finding anything about the program. Therefore, I thought about you when I spotted a page in a 1935 issue of Motion Picture Daily that indicated that James Gleason would star as Hopalong Cassidy. I didn't know whether you were aware that he had that role. See http://archive.org/stream/motionpicturedai38unse#page/n95/mode/2up Eddie Blick (talk) 00:32, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Ray stevens

Hello, please see the talk page for the Ray Stevens article. I have been editing it down to remove trivia and repetition.----Design (talk) 12:18, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

I did worse than that! [2] 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 17:07, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Gregory XVII Edit

It wasn't a POINTy edit, but a disruptive edit representing a claim that the papacy had been seized. Anyway, the edit and the move have been reverted. If they happen again, I will request a block. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:23, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

You are correct, my terminology was wrong. It was a highly POV edit, but it would seem he wasn't trying to disrupt wikipedia, but that he was trying to "improve" it to represent THE TRUTH. Thanks, and thanks for reverting back to the original name, I was unable to undo the page move over the redirect. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 20:27, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

PS I'm not sure the Gregory XVII redirect is a bad idea. It seems likely that someone of a particular persuasion (or who has read an article by someone of that persuasion) would search under that term. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)}

The Limeliters

Hi, as far as I can retrace it you added to the article that John Dalia supported the group. Recently an anonymous contributor changed that to John David. This is the first and only contribution of this ip-address. It seems typically a sort of vandalism to insert someone's own name in an article, so I reverted it. However, I can not find anything about a John Dalia on the internet. Could you look at it, please. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 09:21, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I no longer have access to that book (borrowed from the library, and I've moved 1500 miles away since.) Your reversion was correct, although I am prone to typos, that is not the type of typo I would make. Thanks for checking! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 10:22, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

SMH Records

Hello 78.26 (so cool about the vinyl reference btw). I need help. The page I created SMH Records and me have come under attack by a user who has a history of that and was just warned about his conduct but unrelated. Can you look at the page? You made an edit to it a few days ago. Thanks in advance.Sowhatchawant (talk) 05:40, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sowatchawant, Hell in a Bucket is a longstanding, valued editor, I don't think he has a history of "attacks". I've asked him to hold off on the speedy, but even then it may get prodded, or go through the Articles for Deletion process. Let me take a deeper look at the article, later (too late tonight to give a decent judgement) and I'll let you know what I think. Thanks for writing! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 06:23, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

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Get some rest I added a few more things after your comment so if you don't see it ;) Hell in a Bucket (talk) 07:29, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph Maria Wolfram

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:29, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Orfeo Vecchi

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:15, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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I'm glad somebody took it in the spirit in which it was intended! Thanks so much, very kind of you. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 19:41, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

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A beer for you!

Cheers-- Thanks for the DYK nom! :) Deckdeckdeck (talk) 17:11, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Vadim Borisovich Gnedash

Hello, 78.26, Both articles are created by the same editor, one right after the other, I assumed that the author wanted to delete the first one since he created a second version with identical content + the picture, either way, a redirect does seems like the best solution. Please go ahead and do the honors ;) Thank you --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 22:14, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Taken care of by Shirt58. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 08:38, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Bossa Nova U.S.A.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:43, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Gladys Kathleen Parkin

Hello! Your submission of Gladys Kathleen Parkin at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:31, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Working on it, since I don't have access to sources, this may need to be withdrawn, but I hope the article creator has more. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 19:38, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Please see new note on DYK nomination page. Yoninah (talk) 22:49, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Draft: James Thomas Flaherty

Hello! I saw your name on the AfC talk page as someone interested in music articles, and thought you might enjoy taking a look at Draft:James Thomas Flaherty. Cheers, --Cerebellum (talk) 12:47, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Indeed! A great article, but unfortunately not an encyclopedic one. Mostly relies on primary sources and fundamentally violated NPOV. That said, I hope the help shape this into something that can appear in mainspace. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 14:18, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

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querry

what if people edit with a one sided ideology about something with giving reference from one of theirs pages? does this not violate your opinion of neutrality ? unsigned comment from user:MaaNii Champ on 23:54, 25 November 2014

The situation you state is not good, but what you removed is multiple, published sources. If you believe these books are not reliable (and many of these are from academic sources, not personal websites or blogs) you'll need to discuss on the talk page. I don't see anything particularly POV about your edit, they may be factually correct, but you provided no sources whatsoever to support your assertions. Without sources, how can someone (like me, for instance) who has no knowledge about the subject check to see if the information presented is correct? I most cordially invite you to spend some time reading with Wikipedia policies on referencing and neutrality. If you have any questions about these policies, please feel free to contact me any time. We want you here, making positive contributions to Wikipedia. All the best, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 13:38, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Gladys Kathleen Parkin

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:08, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Charles D'Almaine

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:43, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for removing the edits of Interwikier on the United Synagogue page. Those edits contain POV of a political nature that are inappropriate in the context of the work that the organization does. You efforts are greatly appreciated!! Mike (talk) 20:32, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I haven't made up my mind as to whether that was more a case of NPOV, or UNDUE, but no matter. Cheers! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 20:43, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Noble Street Studios

Hello, 78.26. I can't remember if I ever notified you about this studio, so if this is duplication, just ignore it. —Anne Delong (talk) 13:13, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

I don't recall it. It may be marginally notable, needs work. If notable, I'll try to fix it and move to mainspace. Give me a little extra time, I'm in the process of moving (again). 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 14:00, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Seasonal Greets!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015 !!!

Hello 78.26, May you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New year 2015. Happy editing, The Herald : here I am 16:39, 18 December 2014 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

@The Herald: Thank you much! A very merry Christmas to you and yours as well! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 14:02, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Article

Thanks for letting me know. I submitted my article I on November 28th. This is the first time I submitted an article for creation and I know there is a big back log but the length of time it is taking is discouraging me from submitting more articles in the future. Perfectamundo (talk) 17:37, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

I modified your user page, I haven't seen your AfC creation, I'll see if I can have a go at it right now. Thanks! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 17:48, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

	Happy Holidays!
	The band's playing, so it's time to wish you a very Happy Holiday and all the best in 2015! We hope (talk) 19:27, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

2014 World Masters (darts)

Thanks for accepting the article creation. I will try and find an alternative source. The number 1 and number 6 seeds were knocked out before the Quarter-finals.Perfectamundo (talk) 20:52, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, the were knocked out, but what I'm trying to point out is that the numbers themselves aren't showing up, the boxes are just displaying blanks, so one has to assume the seeds were numbers "1" and "6". Thanks! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 20:59, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Nadolig hapus

Martinevans123^{Santas Grotto} ... wishes you and yours:

"Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda"

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May the true spirit of Christmas bless you with warmth and peace!

Thanks for the greeting!

Happy holidays to you, too! I was glad to see your ID appear in my Talk window again. I wish you all the best as 2014 ends and 2015 begins.Eddie Blick (talk) 19:50, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

	Victor Woolf Award
	Thank you for patrolling Victor Woolf page. Thank you. And merry Christmas Batfan1966 (talk) 00:24, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a happy new year!

Thank you for your greeting!
I hope you are enjoying this hollidays. My best wishes and a very happy new 2015!
--Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 20:07, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Infinity Cat Recordings and Infinity Cat Recordings

Dear 78: As I was getting ready to archive my talk page, I realized that I had never done anything about your message saying that Infinity Cat Recordings was notable. A few days after that another user made a page. (sigh) I've moved the old draft to Infinity Cat Recordings (label), and left a message on the talk page at Infinity Cat Recordings in case you or another interested person wants to move some of the text from the old draft to the new. Sorry - if I had done this right away it would have been simpler. —Anne Delong (talk) 15:56, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! There's definitely some pertinent information in the old draft, including the Nashville city honor, and the discography. I probably won't be able to work on this until Sunday or Monday next week, and I will most surely need your assistance with the merge templates. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 16:27, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

I have finished it. (finally) As I said, I'll need help with the merge templates. Thank you! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 22:31, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the greeting!

Hope you had a good Christmas and hope you have a happy new year.Perfectamundo (talk) 20:46, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome, I did, thank you and I certainly plan on it. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 17:36, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

The MGM Theater of the Air

You might like to know that I just posted an article on The MGM Theater of the Air. (unsigned by User:Teblick sometime around 17:30 29 December 2014.)

And it is a good one! If you feel like going through the tedious process, I think this should go to DYK. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 17:36, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment. Thanks, too, for the DYK suggestion, but I think I will skip that. Although I appreciate the recognition from previous DYK, as you said, it is tedious. By the way, I have posted several articles about OTR since we last communicated regularly. You might like to look at my links here. I'm not sure which articles you haven't already seen.Eddie Blick (talk) 19:47, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Fandango (Herb Alpert album)

Harrias ^talk 12:02, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

25 DYK

		The 25 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
		Thank you for enlightening us 25 times on music and the people who create it in composition and performance, well organised, always a pleasure in collaboration and review, and hopefully to grow! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:28, 31 December 2014 (UTC)