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Reviewer: Krisgabwoosh (talk · contribs) 01:07, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings! Been a longtime nominator but this will be one of my first swings at reviewing, so bear with me along the way. From a cursory glance, article seems about up to par, so hopefully all we'll need are some copyedits and light tidying up. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 01:07, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

First run: In terms of citations, research, and neutrality, all seems to be in working order. The are some style issues but mostly an abundance of easily fixable prose problems and grammatical mistakes. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 02:53, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Second run: Good progress so far. A few kinks and additional comments left to resolve. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 20:36, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What still needs doing? Think I've resolved everything. -- Grnrchst (talk) 21:55, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It was just the bibliography, naming, and works stuff. Seems that's all been taken care of now. I'll make one last pass over and assess if the article is ready. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 22:48, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Final ruling: Pass. Congratulations! Your article meets all the necessary standards to be considered a Good Article. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 23:03, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedits

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  • Currently, all of the sections are subsections of "Biography". I'd recommend changing them all to headers and making the "Biography" header say "Early life". Krisgabwoosh (talk)
  • It's a translation thing. Volin spent a lot of time in France and wrote in French. So often the French transliteration of Russian is used, which puts the "e" on the end in order to denote the sound of the "i". The English transliteration rules are different, so they drop the "e". "Volin" is more commonly used in English language sources. -- Grnrchst (talk) 20:44, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

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Biography

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  • Everything checks out. One additional comment, but is there a better term than Central Black Earth Region, as it seems to cover quite the chunk of space and spans multiple oblasts? I understand the Russian Empire had governorates, perhaps you could use the corresponding one instead?
  • The Central Black Earth Region is what was mentioned in the source, hence why it is here. The governorate would have been the Voronezh Governorate, which given the name, I don't think would be necessary to specify. If you don't think it's a necessary detail, then I can cut it. --Grnrchst (talk) 19:51, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Political activism

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  • "By 1901, he had become ...". Change 'he' to 'Vsevolod'. As a side note, the change from 'Vsevolod' to 'Volin' is rather abrupt. Do you know exactly when he started going by the pseudonym? If so, add it in the text. Alternatively, at the beginning of the biography section, you can write something like "Volin was born Vsevolod Mikhailovich Eikhenbaum on ..." and just refer to him as Volin from then on. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 01:07, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • At a glance, I can't seem to find info on when he started using the name Volin, so I'm going to go with your alternative suggestion, as that's how his biographies tend to refer to him anyway. -- Grnrchst (talk) 09:13, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Revolutionary activities

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  • I tried looking for something to link to but can't seem to find anything, so go ahead and cut it. Personally, I'd cut the whole section on Kropotkin as it seems like an odd detour, but perhaps it's move integral to the larger biography than I realize. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 19:58, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Exile

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  • @Krisgabwoosh: Ok, I looked into the stuff about his marriage, but can't find any real further detail in Avrich 1988, which is the source I used for this information. I've taken the liberty of removing references to his wife, at least until I can find more information. Hope this is ok. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:54, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Volin did. I revisited the source and noticed that your note for adding "which" before "publicised" is actually inaccurate, as The Repressions of the Anarchists in Soviet Russia was published as its own volume, not in The Anarchist Herald. So I've reverted this run on sentence to the previous version, which I think more clearly indicates that this is what Volin has done, but if you have suggestions for rewriting it, please let me know. -- Grnrchst (talk) 20:56, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I see what it's saying now. To me, 'publicised' read as though the paper was the one doing the publishing. I'd recommend tweaking the order of things so that it reads: "published a weekly newspaper ..., translated Peter Arshionv's ..., and publicised evidence". Krisgabwoosh (talk) 21:09, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Miscellaneous

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Infobox

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Images

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Works

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  • For The Unknown Revolution, put the original publisher, not the 2019 translation. The "Works" section is meant to be a list of publications with original publication dates, publisher names, etc. It shouldn't be a repository of links for readers who want to read the books. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 20:16, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • All links, publication dates, publisher names, etc., should link to the original publication by Volin, not later editions or translations. For example, the original publication of The Unknown Revolution was in 1947 by the publisher Les Amis de Voline. If you cannot find links to the original publications, don't link them. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 21:13, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok, so should I go ahead and just removed this section then? Because only "The Historical Role of the State" is the original publication. The others are translations from French. -- Grnrchst (talk) 21:17, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep it, but use the French titles, publisher names, and original publication dates. Generally, book titles should not be translated in bibliographies. The Unknown Revolution is a bit of an exception to the rule. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 21:28, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliography

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  • As stated above, remove unauthorized text reproductions. For citations with no links, a link to the appropriate Google Books page would be helpful. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 01:07, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • All nouns, pronouns, verbs, adjectives, and adverbs should be capitalized in the book titles. 02:53, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
  • I'd just like to confirm that all the editions cited are the same exact editions you read. Many times, different editions have varying page ranges and information. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 20:32, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, there's a a few more issues with the bibliography section here. I'll have to go over it work by work.
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