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POV: Background

I think the section reads too much like an autobiographical account (e.g. why does one need to know that Seth has an 'extensive' library? And why do we need to know about his siblings?). Besides the fact that this information is unverifiable, the reason I tagged for POV is that terms like these sound way too celebratory for Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.68.136.6 (talk) 11:06, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the POV banner, after removing unnecessary information (such as about Seth's 'extensive' library in Delhi, and about his siblings). I agree with the previous editor that it had a POV problem, but hopefully now that's been resolved.--Shurjoroi (talk) 16:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Themes

I accept the change by Catamorphism (Rewrite "Gay themes" section to be slightly less equivocal)with a certain measure of reluctance. Seth has been, as I originally put it, discreet though not secretive about his personal life. When asked outright during an online chat with Indian readers (see http://www.rediff.com/chat/vikchat.htm) about the significance of Philippe Honore in his life and about the poem ("stray or great?") he declined to answer on the basis that this was not something he should feel any obligation to discuss with strangers. One would have thought that the object of this article was to provide such background as Seth himself is willing to have in the wider public domain, but not to intrude on his privacy: presumably he considered that the permission he granted to his mother to mention his "gay choices" in her memoir would not give the matter a very wide currency -- certainly not as wide as his own readership.

Anonymous editor, my interpretation of that online chat is that Seth refused to answer the questions about Honoré and the poem because they were poorly phrased, not because he thought it would be a violation of his privacy. After all, thinking that one's sexual orientation should be kept private requires thinking that being queer is a shameful thing, and I see no reason to think that Seth thinks so. If you're out of the closet, you're out of the closet. Catamorphism 01:10, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It is a pity that the editors of Wikipedia felt it necessary to remove for copyright reasons the photograph which an earlier draughtsperson inserted. I wonder if anyone better equipped than I both to find and insert a non-copyright photo might now do so.

In San Francisco and New York (and Sydney, Toronto and London) to be sure. Not necessarily in Delhi which is in some ways more like, say, Wyoming. Clearly he doesn't think there's anything shameful; perhaps dangerous though. For some anyway. And he is prudent about where he and how acknowledges these things. (I'm not deliberately being anonymous; I just hadn't figured out how to attribute my observations in this forum to myself.) Masalai 02:17, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest that the Gay Themes section has excessive emphasis on the homosexual aspect of the bisexuality in major characters. It states that "there have been central or peripheral gay themes and characters; in particular the central relationship in The Golden Gate and the association between Maan and Firoz in A Suitable Boy." This ignores the bisexuality of Phil in The Golden Gate, who has a homosexual affair but clearly (without spoiling the plot) enjoys women as well, and elevates a relationship which only starts at stanza 4.31 and ends by stanza 8.37 to "central". It is a major plot element, certainly, but John's relationships with Liz and Jan are equally important to the story. Surely "a central" rather than "the central"? Similarly, while Maan and Firoz enjoy a homosexual relationship, their falling out is occasioned by their rivalry over a woman - they are both bisexual. May I suggest a rewrite as "Gay and Bisexual Themes"? since (as far as I remember) there is only one major character who is exclusively homosexual in those two novels. - NickS 22:04, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm...someone has switched around what happens to Seth at Doon and what happens to Amit's younger brother. But Amit's younger brother does suffer sexual abuse...well, being "felt up," anyway. Does this anonymous editor know something about Seth's career as a Doon student? Masalai 04:37, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Punctuation

Maybe we could be consistent in our punctuation, following Fowler's English Usage with double quotation marks and the full stops and commas inside them. Or, since some British publishers prefer single quotes and full stops and commas outside, that's OK too, but not both in the one article. Masalai 04:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bata

Also, is it the Bata Shoe Company [sic]? When its international head office was in Canada it would probably have been Bata Shoes Limited; now that it has returned its international head office to Bratislava it is obviously unlikely that that's the name; of course it's the Indian subsidiary we are interested in. But the capitalisation is significant. Perhaps no capital S or capital C? Masalai 05:52, 13 December 2005 (UTC) It's Bata India Limited.Masalai 16:06, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

German

Saw VS interviewed on German TV recently. His German was very bad. He had to be helped with the simplest words. Perhaps his polymathy means he is spread too thinly intellectually. Pliny 23:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it's rusty. I know mine is after 30+ years. I can't even remember half the Hindi (Devanagari) script I learned 45 years ago, let alone the vocabulary. - NickS 22:04, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Orientation

He is currently in the bisexual writers category and the gay writers category. Which is he? Werdnawerdna (talk) 12:51, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We are quite "dubious" about that. 125.19.14.2 (talk) 10:13, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever, but there is precisely Zero evidence in the body of the article that would support such categorisation. This needs to be fixed, or the categories will be removed. -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 10:14, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks to the magic of Google. -- Khazar (talk) 03:56, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Major cleanup

I have done major clean-up to the article per WP:advertisement, WP:no original research and WP:NPOV. The content about subtect's books, was not necessary to detail in the article while nearly all books have for each separate article. There is still needed addititional sources to support the content. If someone disagree, please discuss here.Thanks.Justice007 (talk) 22:13, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for edit

Situation is very difficult fo Raunakumeshsharma (talk) 08:11, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for editing

Plx I respect your site Plx request you to before 16 June you can not allow anyone to see this in any language like marathon Hindon and English other language is allow Plx because it competition in our school Raunakumeshsharma (talk) 08:14, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Weird bibliographic category

So, if you look at the bibliography, it's divided into four sections. The first three are "Novels", "Poetry", and "Children's book". All well and good so far. The fourth category is called "His Expressions". The first book in this section is a travelogue and the second a biography (I am not familiar with the third one). My point is that "Expressions" is a really unusual descriptor for what I think could best be categorized as "non-fiction". Unless this is a thing in Seth's body of work? I can find no evidence in the text (or elsewhere) that Seth calls them "expressions". So unless someone can clear this up for me in the coming days, I'll probably go ahead and change it myself. Tigercompanion25 (talk) 15:20, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As no one else has opined, I'm going to go ahead and change "His Expressions" to "Non-fiction". If you object, you can revert it and we can discuss is here. Tigercompanion25 (talk) 22:33, 20 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Pronunciation of his surname

I'm surprised to see the IPA transcription /ˈsɛθ/, which would mean his name is pronounced like the American first name Seth, rhyming with Beth. But in The Golden Gate he makes the name rhyme with some word like 'late' or 'eight', which is as I would expect given its Indian origins, and is clearly meant to warn people off pronouncing it as if it were English. Has he changed his policy on this, or has someone got it wrong? The IPA pronunciation could simply have been omitted, and including it suggests that this has been checked and found correct.79.53.126.211 (talk) 18:21, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Poetry/Books of poetry

Under "Poetry" there are some individual poems listed that are included in books of poetry also listed. E.g. I suggest the deletion of "Elephant and the Trapogan" because (a) it is a typo for "The Elephant and the Tragopan" and (b) "The Elephant and the Tragopan" is contained in "Beastly Tales". Similarly, "The Tale of Melon City" is included in "Mappings". Thoughts? NickS (talk) 20:16, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]