Talk:Steinberger
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[edit]The article here was clearly cut and pasted from a brochure or website (can't tell which and can't be bothered tracing it) and so certainly violates copyright. I've written up a "fan" summary from my own head so it's certainly not anyone else's. Is there a copyright-free picture of an L-series guitar I can use? AxS 10:29, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
reverted move
[edit]I just moved Steinberger Bass back to Steinberger. I feel their guitars are at least almost equally notable to their basses... I personally am much more familiar with their guitars than basses, and have seen them more in use than their basses (including by Tangerine Dream, and in a Daft Punk video), although that is personal observation. I'm sure others feel their guitars are as equally notable, so I think its best to keep it in general, especially since we are referring to the company of the manufacturer, and not so much as a specific instrument. -- Shadowolf 23:50, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Appearences
[edit]I'm fairly certain a white Steinberger appears in "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure", and I'm pretty sure I've seen them in other movies as well. I've also seen a number of famous musicians use them in broadcasts. A list of sightings may be fair to add.
It's worth noting that MusicYo.com has the present licensing rights to the Steinberger design, and the versions they sell are crafted of wood rather than graphite. --It costs a candle nothing to light another candle. 12:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Dave Pegg
[edit]I recall that in the 80's Dave Pegg used to play a Hohner headless bass, stating he preferred the 'wooden' tone to a Steinberger. I can't find a quote on the web. Can anyone?The Yowser (talk) 11:31, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
NPOV issues.
[edit]Anyone - the History and Production section here is clearly not neutral POV, but rather has a marked point of view regarding Gibson. It needs some serious cleanup; I'd hesitate to do so without the relevant background. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.114.105.44 (talk) 02:44, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- Done POV edits have been reverted. --Neelkamala (talk) 14:16, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
If this was fixed 5 years ago or not, I don't have the time to go back and check, however, this article is full of value judgements of the author, and is clearly not neutral. It is one thing to point out known deficiencies in a product's construction, but this article does not even list those. It simply says that the products are sub-standard. To whom? To which standard? --71.186.229.144 (talk) 12:19, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Fact is parts of this article are just blatant misinformation. Gibson did not immediately close the Newburgh, NY factory upon buying the company in '87 and start making inferior instruments as the article states. Ned remained a major part of the company until 1990 and the NY factory remained open well into the mid '90s with the same staff who had been making the instruments from day one. Even after Ned started NS Design in 1990, Steinberger remained in NY and was run by Jeff Babicz, who outside of Ned is likely the foremost expert in Steinberger luthiery techniques. I had a Newburgh built white XL-2T brand new in 1990, some of their finest product output frankly, at that point they had finally worked out all the issues and had Gibson money behind them allowing them to hire extra employees which were needed to keep up with demand. It wasn't until '95, or whenever they moved production first to the Tobias shop in California, and then on to Nashville that some problems began to pop up due to the fact that the employees from NY didn't make the moves to California and Nashville and so new people had to be trained to make them and at that point yes production did suffer. Then of course after that came the cheaper licensed stuff like the Spirits and such, the wooden Steinberger era, opinions on those are exactly that, opinions, were they great, probably not, but they also weren't and aren't selling for several thousand dollars. Status4 (talk) 01:53, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
Proposed merge with Steinberger Spirit XT-2 Bass Guitar
[edit]as per WP:PRODUCT Jmertel23 (talk) 13:43, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Accompanying image mislabeled
[edit]I've lived in NYC for over 20 years and seen the busker depicted in the image "HeadlGuit.jpg" many times. When I first saw him, I wondered if he was playing a Steinberger, so I checked and it was a Hohner copy. So, unless he upgraded to the much more expensive Steinberger on his busker's salary, this is mislabeled. I won't make any changes, as this is "original research", but it's the truth. Do what you will. guanubian (talk) 02:09, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
No mention of fiberglass construction?
[edit]In the PBS On Key special about Steinberger, it is mentioned at least once that the early composite bass and guitar models are made from a fiberglass composite, however nowhere on the page is this mentioned. Carbon fiber is mentioned on the wiki page a number of times, but I don't believe carbon fiber was in wide spread use in the 1980s as it is today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-60-BSbAgg
you can also see the fiberglass layup being carried out in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3Stbn53Cpc Fdsman (talk) 16:28, 11 September 2024 (UTC)