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Genre dispute

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Should Metalcore be added as a genre? Lots of people, myself included, agree that Sonic Syndicate differ a lot from "regular" melodeath bands, and share lots of elements with metalcore bands. - Aeluwas 21:49, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm note sure if Metalcore would be fitting though. With their newest album, they definitely drop alot of their Eden Fire style for a more clean sound. Almost like In Flames from Reroute To Remain and Soundtrack To Your Escape, where it's more influenced by Alternative metal from the United States. If you can provide other sources with different genres other than melodic death metal, then by all means add it, I mean people on the Ill Nino wiki added Thrash metal to their genres because it was listed from a source.Shatterzer0 22:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
"Sonic Syndicate" are to "Melodic Death Metal" what Eminem is to "Gangsta Rap". Abort-O-Matic 5000 14:44, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They're to melo death as Mayhem is to jazz. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Necrolog (talk • contribs) 02:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC) METALCORE, no Melodeath! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.247.4.162 (talk) 13:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Metalcore, not melodeath.--SilverOrion (talk) 08:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Metalcore, give a source. Melodic death metal is what Nuclear Blast uses to label them, so did Pivotal Rockordings, Eden Fire was what melodeath is (if you've ever listened to it) and yeah, Only Inhuman was further from that than I would have asked, but all you need to do is source the genre with a reliable third party. -- Shatterzer0 (talk) 16:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nuclear Blast can label them like they want, but if you listen to real melodeath bands, like dark tranquillity, kalmah, in flames early albums, or arch enemy you can realize of it. Even the image doesn't match a melodeath band. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.44.177.185 (talk) 22:19, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It guess it could be classified as melodic metalcore. - Ketchup Krew Heinz 57! 23:30, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's actually what I was going to suggest. They're still influenced by melodic death but are more metalcore which is melodic metalcore. Eden Fire though was a melodeath record. With the addition of Roland, their sound changed... -- Shatterzer0 (talk) 23:36, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Most importantly, didn't anyone notice that two of the three sources regarding the genre actually claims that they're metalcore (and hinting towards melodic metalcoore). At least the article should be true to the sources, right? And yeah, if you listen, there's definitely a lot of 'core to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.142.168.216 (talk) 13:43, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Replacable free use image?

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The free use of the image Sonic Syndicate.jpg is being disputed. Please see my talk page for further details. I'm having a little trouble understanding the fair use rules, so any help would be much appreciated. If you find a free replacement image, please, go ahead and upload it :) Fenrisulfr talk 13:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The links on my talk page actually apply to a different image, but the issue is the same Fenrisulfr talk 13:26, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

three brothers, or two brothers and a cousin?

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I've read in several articles differing facts. That richard, roger and robin are brothers and then in other articles it's richard and roger that are brothers with robin being the cousin. So I'm going to just reword it to where it appears they're family members without differentiating between whether they're cousins or brothers. If anyone disagrees or can provide a real reliable source, then by all means change it. -- Shatterzer0 17:28, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Melodic Death Metal

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This Is not Metalcore, Metalcore I Have Breakdowns and Hardcore Influences, Sonic Syndicate Have a Hardcore Influences? Not, This the New Sound of Melodic Death Metal More Much Comercial, and Influenced In Alternative Rock, Check the last Albums of In Flames, Soilwork, Dark Tranquility, Arch Enemy, This is New Sound of Melodic Death Metal, The Old Sound is Unleashed, Carcass, At The Gates, In Flames (First Albums). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Forced life1983 (talk • contribs) 04:47, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Very true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.170.209.139 (talk) 13:37, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is english even your first language? Anyway, just because a band say "hey guys, we're the new face of melodeath!" that doesn't make it true. Unless you're suggesting that we change Slipknot's wiki page to say they're "METAL metal, like Slayer!" or Manowar's to say "True fucking metal!" or Mindless Self Indulgence's to read "american industrial jungle pussy punk".86.160.118.150 (talk) 02:37, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

equipment?

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Anyone know what equipment they use? - Ketchup Krew Heinz 57! 23:26, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Power Metal? WTF!

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Firstly, this article is ed up. Its been edited by far too many idiots and annoying "Metal n00bs" who don't know what they're talking about. Secondly, there is absolutely NO trace of Power Metal in their music. Power Metal is bands like HammerFall, DragonForce, Sonata Arctica - the only band that comes close to incorporating Power Metal into Death Metal is Children of Bodom. If you're saying that Sonic Syndicate are Power Metal, then so are In Flames, Dark Tranquillity and Soilwork - we all know that's . Sonic Syndicate are Melodic Metalcore, with strong influences taken from the European Melodic Death Metal scene - understandable, considering they come from Sweden. People, if you're gonna write an article on a Metal band, then get your ing facts straight!

Also, this article reads like it was written by a 12 year old kid (which it probably was). Seriously, the grammar, spelling, punctuation - its all crap. Plus, its packed full of opinions and original research without enough citation. This page is in dire need of a clean up... preferably by someone who actually knows anything about Metal.


i agree there not even power metal lol melodic metalcore , melodic death metal maybe but far from power metal


The beauty of Wikipedia, is if you think an article is bad, you can write it yourself. Good luck! Rehevkor ✉ 23:03, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would do, were it not for the fact I have no time, and that I have no wish to spend ages carefully composing an article only to have it deleted and changed by some annoying kid a few hours later. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.53.244 (talk) 15:11, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. That is exactly how it works. Rehevkor ✉ 16:39, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Metalcore?? We Rule The Night

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The new album, we rule the night, is definitly NOT Metalcore, Modern Metal or Melodic Death Metal. Its Pop-Rock or something else but not metal —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.236.146.135 (talk) 19:00, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Melodic Death Metal? Pop Rock? The New Album is Alternative Metal —Preceding unsigned comment added by Staybrutal666 (talk • contribs) 02:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would indeed call the latest album Alternative Metal. Pop-Metal in itself is not a genre, and the closest would be Glam Metal, which it certainly isn't. (85.11.23.12 (talk) 20:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC))[reply]

When linking to "modern" pop metal I tend to pipe it to pop rock which has a lot more in common than the old glam metal. Rehevkor ✉ 21:04, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Melodic death metal

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You have got to be having a laugh if you're suggestiong that anything on We Rule the Night was melodeath. The first SS album was melodeath, but with the next two album's they moved closer and closer to metalcore. On their latest, the band actually stated that they wanted to distance themselves from the gothenburg sound and pursue a "more old-school rock 'n' roll vibe". Their delusions aside, the latest album is a blend of metalcore and alternative metal, with undertones of nu metal, hard rock, and pop metal. In short, about as mainstream as it's feasably possible for a a gothenburg band to become. Calling them a melodeath band is seriously misleading. And while I'm ranting, half this article reads like it was written by a 14-year-old scene kid, which come to think of it, it probably was.86.160.118.150 (talk) 02:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ffs! They are no longer melodic death metal. Fact.86.160.118.150 (talk) 03:34, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sources, sources, sources. I have no opinion what they are, aren't or weren't, but not information needs to be supported by reliable sources. Rehevkor ✉ 08:47, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unbalanced?

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Only because there isn't much on the band's formation in relation to how much there is mentioned about each separate part of the article, I think this article should be labelled unbalanced. If only for the fact that Eden Fire is combined with this, and this opening paragraph is shorter than the Only inhuman paragraph, say. My opinion, and I don't know where to put the "undue weight" tag. Drumkid13 (talk) 15:53, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think either of those are appropriate, undue weight is an issue when minority views are given too much attention, not for pointing out omissions. The {{Expand}} was probably the best but that has now been depreciated. The actual best solution, however, would be to write the sections in question. Rehevkor ✉ 16:04, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Roger Sjunnesson left?

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An IP changed the article last night to say Roger Sjunnesson had left the band. I tried searching last night and was unable to find any sources to support that at all, reliable or not. The source provided by the IP was this one. Coming to conclusions based on the absence of someone in a video is original research and the comments are way out as reliable sources. I have reverted it all for now, but does anyone have any other background on this? Any sources? Cheers. Яehevkor ✉ 09:37, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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