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I'm surprised that Cleary's corona virus shenanigans are included in the lede, and MaskedSinger's claims that "He will be remembered forever by this" (emphasis theirs) as laughable. It looks like WP:RECENTISM. Sure, the facts should be included in the article, but I can't imagine any encyclopedia having them in the lede. I know we don't get much traffic here, but would anyone care to lend an opinion, or do we need to go through the WP:3O process? Doctorhawkes (talk) 09:29, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Doctorhawkes, the issue isn't that Cleary violated quarantine, it's that he lied about it. A lie that has potentially put the whole season in doubt. This puts him in a different class to Addo-Carr and Mitchell which is why I didn't contest your deletions there. Having said that, I take objection to you coming along and reverting my edits multiple times without the courtesy of a discussion here or without the courtesy of a note on my Talk page. Your opinion is valuable, but not more valuable than mine.
I think "potentially" is the key word here. The NRL don't seem to think so, hence a lesser fine. And I haven't seen any reputable source saying he lied, just that he omitted details. Doctorhawkes (talk) 23:55, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Doctorhawkes, you're much smarter than this :) His original alibi was to deal with the pictures - they came over for a few minutes before getting an uber and while they were here they took a picture and I forgot about it. - how on earth does this make any sense knowing that he participated in a video with them?? MaskedSinger (talk) 04:56, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! 3O here. I believe Doctorhawkes is correct here - putting the quarantine violation in the lead is undue weight and recentism. A while from now (and I'm talking months if not years), if this really is what he's remembered for (and that's backed up by significant reliable sources), it can be added back, but for now it's overcoverage of a recent event. creffett (talk) 22:54, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Response to third opinion request: