Talk:List of weight training exercises

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Hip Adductor

I just removed the link to Hip Adductor because it links to the muscle group not an exercise. When I search for a specific exercise I couldn't find anything called the "Hip Adductor." Is it really an exercise? Perhaps this should be removed entirely. Buzzbo (talk) 01:18, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary focus on heavy workout

Squats and lunges do not require extra weight to have an effect. I'm no expert, but I fail to see how body weight squats with bad form would cause serious injury. I get the feeling that a lot of this article is written with a "body builder" type audience in mind, while a lot of people (myself included) might be more "I just need to work out a little". I suggest that someone (I'll do it myself if I have time and some support) check the whole article and remove/rewrite unnecessary "heavy weight focus". 94.191.173.112 (talk) 05:34, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why a female model?

Weight training is primarily a male sport, and although in the West some women also indulge in it, it remains a male sport. For a non-Western person it is a bit incongruous to see a female model doing light gym. It does not do justice to the sport itself.

I know, in the West, everything male has to be taken over by females, be it gym or baseball commentary or any other predominantly male sport, but I think on an international forum, Wikipedia should show more sensitivity to the larger world community. Masculinity (talk) 17:57, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Most men in the non-West, and I'm sure in the West too, will not relate with a female working out... If you want eye candies, you should go somewhere else, this is serious stuff and information.(Masculinity (talk) 19:21, 12 March 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Get over yourself. Serious body builders and weight trainers won't be interested in this article. If they don't know it all by now then they aren't serious. The article will be of great interest to people - that's men and women - further back on the learning curve who will appreciate a one-stop shop for muscle-training exercises. (Although the exrx.com site, mentioned elsewhere on this page, is a comprehensive and informative external alternative)

As for your suggestion that the images of a woman are not acceptable to most men in the non-West, and you're sure the West, ... you can consider this article to be anticipating the eventual loss of sexism in the former, and, with a certainty as strong and unverified as yours, I'm sure that in the latter you're underestimating the sense of equality within the fitness world. ;-) 92.24.198.255 (talk) 13:06, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Model

<insults removed> Not really nice images. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.155.114.84 (talk • contribs)

The photos were actually taken at a bodybuilder gym, and could easily have featured one of the bodybuilders who train there. I deliberately chose instead to feature a non-bodybuilder, in order to make the subject less intimidating—particularly to women. I admire her courage, and I think she looks great. GeorgeStepan e k\^talk 13:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also think she looks great , and I hope now even better , however , I don't think wikipedia should not be intimidating (let non intimidating ""training"" articles stay on womens magazines and pilates gyms) , it should be neutral also it's more informative regarding good posture when a leaner individual , obviously not a bodybuilder (bodybuilders are quite bigger , you can't just put that tag on every fit looking person who engages in bodybuilding) like the man in the animation showed in the push up article you can clearly see what muscles contract to keep the posture right)

Also it seems that you encourage "training" it's a bad approach that leads to frustration , it's better in the long run for newbies to get "culture shocked" but engage in serious training then keep the delicate barriors on their egos , saying there not bodybuilders , thus they don't need effective training , and stereotype any fit looking person as a bodybuilder.

this is an irresponsible approach in my opinion (Not regarding the pictures , there okey although can be better , just what you wrote)

<insults removed> UBERGOD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.189.240.107 (talk • contribs)

You've got better free images, get a user account and upload them. Until you can do so, you're vandalizing the page. Reverted and a warning placed on the anon's page. WLU 11:18, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

are there any other exercises that aren't written here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.157.65 (talk) 17:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, weighted leg raise, the full body lifts that use multiple compound movements (like the clean and press), movements you could do with a kettlebell, cable cross over etc. The basic stuff you'll see supported in most gyms are well represented here (though I think the chin-up motion is worthy of its own image, blargh). I personally think the front shoulder press is the absolute best triceps exercise you can do and is under-represented here. http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html has a good breadth of the many variations. Re: the model, I like her and she should have her own sitcom. -- 05:48, 21 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.175.230.36 (talk)

I absolutely love the fact that there are images. When talking about exercises, it's imperative and extremely helpful to have images to work off of when trying to exercise correctly 24.251.84.221 10:25, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To the previous two posters: For numerous exercises, including detailed instructions, see http://www.exrx.net

Rocky143 15:12, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While people are (of course) very free to critique the photographs, I've removed the unnecessary personal insults about the model herself. — Matt Crypto 18:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The pictures need to be updated. The form of several of the exercise are incorrect: -back in curved in the hack squat pictures -knees are caved in with the DB deadlift picture -elbows drifting on the cable pushdowns —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.240.229 (talk) 22:35, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Download speed

I have no problem with the model pictures.

There are just too many of them the page takes over 5 minutes to download on dialup this is not acceptable.

Please edit the pictures ok or I will ask an admin too. The page is just too large to download and useless to anybody using dialup. You did a great job just to many images ok.

Please edit as many as you can the size and spped of download can be checked here right now it is so big it can't be checked.

After deleting some please check the download time here ok Website download speed--Supplements 13:40, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have reduced the size of the images, which has reduced the page weight from over 1 MB to under 500 kB. This should take just over a minute to download on a full-speed 56kb dialup connection, which I think is quite acceptable. However it may take longer for you if your line quality is poor. GeorgeStepan e k\^talk 07:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wonderful job too Thanks for your prompt attention to this--Supplements 13:40, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Innaccuracies

There are many inaccuracies in this article. I preacher curl is a brachialis exercise and a hammer curl is a brachioradialis exercise. There are many other inaccuracies I've noticed, for example the deltoid section is terrible. Exrx.net has good information with sources cited that can be used to salvage this inaccurate article. Maybe when I have more time I will make some changes, but hopefully someone else will volunteer. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jackery (talk • contribs) 19:50, 09 November 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Cephalocaudal Routine

It's kind of generic, but all of the muscles are covered in 3 groups of 11 (33 exercises) using a bench and a corner gym, (3 pulleys, leg tool, leg press, butterfly and declined chest press levers). Finish with whatever abs and rows, and hit the erector spinae with head gear before doing a standing triceps pressdown, pull down or pullover. Toss in the barbell dead lift and dumbbells if you're really attached to them. Get the pictures from Strength Training Anatomy and the Stretches from Arnold Body Building (not to mention some pretty nice finishing poses- if you like bulk). Keep it under 65 lbs including the bar and run with it for a good 8 weeks.

1. Neck Retractions (Erector Spinae) 2. Triceps Push Downs 3. Reverse Grip EZ Curls 4. Narrow Grip Upright Rows (Anterior) 5. Wide Grip Upright Rows (Anteriors) 6. Shrugs 7. Neutral Grip Vertical (Shoulder) Press 8. Alternating Leg Extensions 9. Alternating Leg Curls 10. Oblique Press (A Seated Crunch; but side saddle) 11. Row

1. Donkey Calf Press 2. Butterfly Press 3. Chest Press 4. Leg Press 5. Reverse Atlas Curls 6. Hammer Grip 7. Atlas Curls 8. Rear Shoulder Press 9. Overhead Triceps Press 10. Lat Pull Downs 11. Leg Extensions

1. Standing Front Knee Raise 2. Lateral Leg Raise 3. [whatever subscapularus] 4. Rope Front Raise 5. Reverse Grip Low Pulley Curls 6. Crossovers (Behind) 7. Lateral Raise (Cable Behind Back) 8. Lateral Raise (Cable in Front) 9. Cuff Rear-Delt Laterals 10. High pulley or Straight Pullbacks 11. Triceps Kickback

2 minutes each followed by some good Cardio (30 minutes to an hour split between the eliptical machine, the inclined tread mill and the mountain bike). But if you're less than 120 lbs, I'd recommend starting with a couple of power bars and some Twinkies, hit the climbing wall and finish up with some serious squats, whey, and a burger. --Aaron 37422-- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.60.0.20 (talk) 03:03, 10 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

It is unclear how you wish this information to relate to the page. However, it is unsourced, and currently inappropriate for inclusion on the main page. I have reverted the addition. WLU 13:22, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Military Press and Deadlift

I just edited the shoulder press section to reflect the difference between the seated press and the military press, but do not have a photo to add for the military press. If anybody does have one that is in the public domain, could they add it?

I also edited the lower back section to include the deadlift (along with a basic explanation of what a deadlift is), and included some information to emphasize the application and importance of the deadlift to everyday life functionality. I don't think this counts as original research or POV since it is widely available information, and hope that it will not be removed. The deadlift's importance to musculoskelatal health is often ignored and I felt it important to point out this connection. Maybe it will prevent a back injury for someone?

The deadlift section needs a photo also.

24.214.40.152 (talk) 20:35, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Used muscles for bench press

In the table, it says for triceps: "Some". But I think the triceps is used very much, isn't it? 78.51.20.249 (talk) 22:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Triceps are mentioned on Bench press, so I suppose that they are actually used. Han-Kwang (t) 09:35, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deadlift included twice in overview section

It seems that the deadlift exercise is included in the overview section twice, but more importantly, the two different inclusions in the list state other muscles that are trained by the exercise. The first inclusion says it focuses on the quadriceps, hamstrings and gluteus. The second inclusion says it focuses on the quadriceps, hamstrings, lats, abdominals and lower back. The article about the deadlift states it targets the gluteus maximus, adductor magnus, hamstrings, quadriceps, and the soleus, which is all a lot of medical mumbo-jumbo to me.

Everything taken together, a rather confusing situation that needs clearing up by an expert, which I definitely am not. :D Gerard RvE (talk) 10:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The double has been eliminated in the meantime; I just tried to update the table based on the description in the deadlift article. The adductor magnus is part of the adductor muscles of the hip, so I have added 'hip'. It also involves a large number of torso muscles, which I find difficult to map to the more generic names of muscle groups, but I've added some names. Han-Kwang (t) 09:35, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Um, this article really sucks

Tons of randomly selected isolation exercises? Good job idiots, at least you mentioned deadlifts.... with 15 lb or so dumbbells?? What bullshit, why would this article not focus on standard lifts that have been around for ages, like squats, bench press, overhead press, pullups, and for the love of god, where are the olympic lifts??? There is a reason that the pros who compete to see who can lift the most weight do powerful moves like snatch, clean, and jerk... and i didnt see them anywhere. This article seems to approach "weight training" from the stay-at-home-mom-with-a-personal-trainer type mentality, which is so wrong its painful, and is very modern and hasn't been around long. Why do people who know nothing about the subject edit wikipedia articles??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.236.197.24 (talk) 00:49, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seated calf raise

This should be called "bent leg calf raise" for clarity, since (1) a straight leg calf raise can be done while seated (say, on a leg press machine with your toes on the lower edge of the press plate) and (2) the soleus works when the leg is bent, not when one is seated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.241.100.17 (talk) 23:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of research citations

Research could be cited to prove th effectiveness of the excercises. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.177.75.205 (talk) 09:20, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Overview table

In August 2009, I added a table with an overview of exercises and which muscle groups they target. It was deleted several times by anonymous users[1][2][3]; the last time went unreverted for a year. Although this might have been pure vandalism, it could also be because of errors in the table. In that case, I would like to have them corrected rather than that the whole table is removed. Please correct errors or write your concerns here on the talk page. Han-Kwang (t) 09:02, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The table looks like original research. Who decides the difference between "yes," "some," and blank cells? If the table is an original compilation of verifiable information, please provide a citation for each exercise (including cited justification to differentiate between "yes" and "some"). Thank you. 75.180.29.69 (talk) 13:14, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There are some serious flaws with this page

Just a visitor here and the information is not to a decent standard.

For example bench press says that it uses mainly pectorals and only some triceps. It is infact the other way around assuming the excercise it performed correctly and not a bodybuilder style with flared elbows(which is the incorrect way to bench)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.7.46.116 (talk) 12:36, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

- well no this is just wrong lol, the pectorals role in the bench press is to provide flexion in the upper arm. That is, move your bicep upwards when your laying on your back. Your triceps extends your forearm, that means make your arm straight from being bent at the elbow. If you were to try to just extend your forearm while holding the bench press bar nothing else, your hand would slide along the bar with no movement in the bar. Actually you might try and pull the bar down. if you tried to not use the pecs a lot but mainly use the triceps when you push the bar up, you will slide again and have a wider grip than when you started. The main movement that's actually providing any force in a bench press is the flexion of your upper arm, that means, your pec is doing most of the work. Anyone who is reading this do not be misled by other misled people who don't provide any information to their misled ways. Source: any guide to basic anatomy, google is your friend. Don't just trust me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.248.40.54 (talk) 03:41, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]