Talk:Hakeem Oluseyi

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Additional sources to mine

Other sources I ran across, but have not used (yet):

Blog entry about TED Fellowship (seems a reliable source for his TED fellowship)^[1]
APS profile (authorship unclear to me, not sure how selective these profiles are)^[2]
Additional APS profile^[3]
IMDB (TV shows)^[4]
Discovery Science channel^[5]

^ Eng, Karen (5 October 2012). "Rise of a gangsta nerd: Fellows Friday with Hakeem Oluseyi". TED Blog. Retrieved 19 October 2016.
^ "Hakeem Oluseyi". Physics Central. American Physical Society. Retrieved 19 October 2016.
^ "Hakeem Oluseyi - Physicist Profile Detail Page". www.careersinphysics.org. American Physical Society. Retrieved 19 October 2016.
^ "Hakeem Oluseyi". IMDb. Retrieved 19 October 2016.
^ "Hakeem Oluseyi : Science Channel : Discovery Press Web". press.discovery.com. Retrieved 19 October 2016.

Sexual assault claim

I added this as part of my paragraph about the James Webb Telescope naming controversy, and it was removed. Perhaps this is reasonable, but I thought I would bring it up here. Is it not noteworthy that someone has accused him, or at least insinuated, that he is guilty of sexual assault? The New York Times article is behind a paywall, but you can read about it in this one.LastDodo (talk) 10:39, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Both sources make clear that investigations found no supporting evidence for the claims (and that some were demonstrably false). Wikipedia articles should not give unsubstantiated informal accusations any weight. See WP:BLPCRIME. Schazjmd (talk) 16:06, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's for non-public figures. Oluseyi is a public figure, and under that it says 'If you cannot find multiple reliable third-party sources documenting the allegation or incident, leave it out'. I think we can find multiple such sources, including the NYT, even though the allegation may well be a spurious one. LastDodo (talk) 18:01, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What would be the appropriate weight in a BLP for unsupported rumors that one of the sources describes as a "vicious propaganda campaign"? In the NYT source, a Florida Tech dean who was involved in the investigation is quoted: "These rumors never die out, and they damage his reputation. These accusations were shamefully promoted." Why should any weight be given to perpetuating what appears to be nothing more than gossip? Schazjmd (talk) 18:16, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just to add: if included, the language needs to be cleaned up. Your edit said "sexual assault", which is not supported by either source. The actual claim was "mishandled a federal grant and sexually harassed a woman". Schazjmd (talk) 18:53, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes you are right about harrassment, my mistake. I was conflating that with the accuser's comments about the National Society of Black Physicists, where she says she was sexually assaulted twice (and raped once, if I am reading her blog post correctly).

Regarding the accusation, I share your doubts, I just want to make sure Wikipedia policy is applied correctly and consistently. The goal is not to perpetuate gossip, but include what is relevant. If you are happy that this is already the case, then I will not argue any more. LastDodo (talk) 19:10, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@LastDodo, as both sources merely bring the rumors up in the context of how Oluseyi and Prescod-Weinstein disagreed about the name of the James Webb Space Telescope, I don't feel it's due to mention at all. However, if additional coverage specifically of the allegations against Oluseyi are published, I think we should reconsider at that time. Schazjmd (talk) 20:09, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Very well. We will leave it as is. LastDodo (talk) 20:29, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wow ... put a presidential elect like Trump behind bars ..because his is guilty as chareged 2600:6C55:7900:19D:78B6:6005:90F7:D86 (talk) 07:43, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nokiya

adas boo ysihsd 175.157.176.254 (talk) 16:33, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Eng, Karen (5 October 2012). "Rise of a gangsta nerd: Fellows Friday with Hakeem Oluseyi". TED Blog. Retrieved 19 October 2016.

[2] "Hakeem Oluseyi". Physics Central. American Physical Society. Retrieved 19 October 2016.

[3] "Hakeem Oluseyi - Physicist Profile Detail Page". www.careersinphysics.org. American Physical Society. Retrieved 19 October 2016.

[4] "Hakeem Oluseyi". IMDb. Retrieved 19 October 2016.

[5] "Hakeem Oluseyi : Science Channel : Discovery Press Web". press.discovery.com. Retrieved 19 October 2016.

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