Talk:Gluttony

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You can describe both hypocrisy and gluttony with the following pictures: [1] [2] --Svetovid 13:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Gluttony is not the same as obesity. Obesity is normally derived from gluttony, but not always. Gluttony doesn't mean to be fat - some people can eat excessively (and, therefore, be gluttonous), but still be thin. Also, a hyperactive thyroid, metabolic problems and hormonal disorders (such as Cushing's Syndrome) can lead to obesity, but not gluttony (excessive eating). You can't simply look at someone who is overweight and assume they are gluttonously sinning. You can only know by their eating habits. --PoeticX 05:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The image caption

The image of a pile of cakes is captioned "An excessive pile of cakes for a gluttonous child" when it could also be for a gluttonous adult. 219.90.222.150 09:10, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Does it really matter though Jokerkick (talk) 19:06, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

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Proposed section

I propose this section to be added Maria Bernada 17:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Analysis of the sin of gluttony by St. Gregory the Great

St. Gregory the Great, a doctor of the Church, described five ways by which one can commit sin of gluttony:

1. Eating before the time of meal in order to satisfy the palate.
2. Seeking delicacies and better quality of food to gratify the "vile sense of taste".
3. Seeking after sauces and seasonings for the enjoyment of the palate.
4. Exceeding the necessary amount of food.
5. Taking food with too much eagerness, although eating the proper amount.

The fifth way is worse than all others, said the saint, because it shows attachment to pleasure that comes with eating.

To recapitulate, St. Gregory the Great says that one may succumb to the sin of gluttony by:

1. Time (when)
2. Quality
3. Stimulants
4. Quantity
5. Eagerness

References

Glorified Gluttony

Say rather, I don't see the need for the section, seeing how it is based on religious conceptions, denouncing the comps as "glorifying" gluttony. Competetive eating may not be considered gluttony to some people like it does to others, to that end, and since I really don't see how it can be altered to be non-biased (or even relevant), I'm going to delete it.

If you feel you must revert it at least explain why.

His royal majesty, Lord Holy Ono (talk) 05:22, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Six, not five ways of gluttony

St. Thomas Aquinas, described six ways by which one can commit sin of gluttony:

• Praepropere – eating too soon.
• Laute – eating too expensively (washedly).
• Nimis – eating too much.
• Ardenter – eating too eagerly (burningly).
• Studiose – eating too daintily (keenly).
• Forente – eating too wildly (boringly).

Is there a reference for this? Aquinas does not use, as far as I can tell, the term "forente" in either the Summa theologiae nor the De Malo.

Ardenter vs. Forente

What is the difference between Ardenter (eating too eagerly) and Forente (eating too wildly/fervently)?

Eating burningly and boringly I think Jokerkick (talk) 19:08, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Least serious sin

This is the least serious of sins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.155.71.131 (talk) 06:28, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but you do know all sins are equal.If god punished all of us when one person sin we'd all be dead,so pls do not measure sins.They are all equal. Jokerkick (talk) 19:04, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Overemphasis on religious views

This article consists of a one sentence definition followed by several sections of Biblical analysis. A bit overboard, it seems, to me. Huw Powell (talk) 03:16, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Sourcing for "In Judaism"

We say that gluttony is listed in the 613 commandments as #169 - however in the Wikipedia article on that list, #169 says "The High Priest must not marry a widow". I didn't find the right commandment, but I think it would be useful if it could be found.

Also we reference "Not to eat or drink like a glutton or a drunkard" as Leviticus 19:26, however the link gives us the text "You shall not eat any flesh with the blood in it. You shall not interpret omens or tell fortunes." I don't see the connection with gluttony.

I also don't understand the relevance of the text in brackets: "(not to rebel against father or mother)" - that matches Deuteronomy 21:20, but is really the part which is not about gluttony. Maybe we could write "(and not to rebel ...)" ?

Stefanmuc (talk) 17:07, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

"St Aquina"

"St Aquinas" is unidiomatic, in the way that shortening Sir John Smith to Sir Smith is wrong. It should be "St Thomas".

Rick Jelliffe (talk) 05:00, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Summary

So if I am correct a gluttony is a person who eats too much. Jokerkick (talk) 19:01, 22 May 2021 (UTC)