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Overall: Article looks well sourced and balanced, and was nominated within 7 days of GA. I can't access the hook article, but it looks like it might be about children's literature specifically, does it also mention Western literature in general? The hook is interesting enough, but I can't help thinking some of the other facts in the article (like them being hunted by tigers or using tools!) would be even better hooks. Can you add some alts? BuySomeApples (talk) 23:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Brown bears are no bigger than tigers and I have proof. We have many comparisons from camera traps of male Ussuri brown bears and tigers, Ussuri brown bears are usually the same height and shorter than tigers, they are the same size, and Ussuri brown bears, by the way, are considered one of the largest subspecies of brown bear in the world, so medium-sized subspecies of brown bear are of course smaller than tigers. Chukcha228 (talk) 13:31, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Chukcha228: Nice argument you have there, but remember to put your money where your mouth is. First and foremost, if reading the material hasn't already told you, brown bear sizes vary greatly. One question: have you ever heard of Kodiak bears? Sure, before launching into such petty debates, go read some more sources on brown bears to make sure what you're saying is actually factual. We are taking in regard all brown bear subspecies and populations, not only the Ussuri subspecies. And just so you know, a large male Kodiak bear would absolutely dwarf any Siberian tiger. Unless you find some lost 1920s archive in the trenches that proves your whole argument here, I may then consider your POV. WolverineXI(talk to me)18:18, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No they won't dwarf any Siberian, like I said one of the largest brown bears in the world in comparisons is almost equally tall and shorter. Secondly yes we talk about all bears not only Kodiaks, so tigers of course would be larger than interior grizzlies and Gobi bears. Chukcha228 (talk) 04:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well I don't know how to post comparisons here, but then I will share some data. Average length and height for adult male interior grizzlies 164 cm straight line and 95.2 cm (Blanchard), for Siberian tigers it's 195 cm straight line and height at shoulders 95 cm (Kerley et al. 2005) Note that tigers in study were young and mostly not in normal shape + modern individuals would be larger, and besides this, bears also have a longer neck and a longer skull, so the length is exaggerated. As you can see tigers are significantly larger than medium-sized brown bear subspecies. Chukcha228 (talk) 10:01, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]