Talk:Bomberman

Characters from the anime

The characters from the Bomberman Jetters anime should be removed from here, and moved to the Bomberman Jetters anime page, as the characters in the anime are vastly different, even from the Bomberman Jetters game, such as...

Bagular (Bagura) in the anime is not actually evil, and would never agree to actually destroying a planet, as he opposes Max even destroying the Jetters base.

Max is actually evil in the anime, and helps with a plan to smash the planets Jetters and Bomber together, and destroy both. --67.182.138.63 21:52, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll do it, I swear! --67.182.138.63 00:21, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Done. --67.182.138.63 21:10, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Why aren't there articles for any of the Bomberman Jetters characters? I am goin to start making them. I shall start with Shirobon and it would be very nice if other people would join in making articles for everyone too. Zeeco 00:35, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Removed

I removed: "Bomberman has a huge variety of expressions (despite his lack of a mouth,) making him one of the most expressive of video game characters." This doesn't seem very factual and even sounds slightly sarcastic. MafiaCapo 22:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

^^ hahaha 200.0.175.4 (talk) 21:42, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Bomberman Party Edition

Bomberman Party Edition [1] is the Bomberman game I have, but it isn't listed here. Did everybody just forget it or what? --Peng 09:46, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Why delete lists and powerups?

Why delete it??? It is useful for people who want to know more about the game and exact name of the powerups. I think the editor deleted it because he think he is expert in Bomberman? --xertnevnI

where is it??

Language improvements in article

I have improved the langauge of the powerups section. Anyone can feel free to further improve them. Note that I used British English in the section. I might continue with other sections at a later time. -- xertnevnI, Feb 4 2006.

Entire Article Copyedited

Copyedited the whole article today, just took one pass at it and made alot of corrections. This included correcting the use of "in" and "on", deleting arbitrary or redundant information, and organizing the text to flow more naturally (especially in the "characters" section). I am not an expert on or a fan of Bomberman so I can't make any true content changes, but I would like for someone to really look at this article and more clearly define some things. As someone who does not enjoy the Bomberman games or story, I found many references to be confusing and not defined.Wjgl 22:26, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

You removed the "Single Player Mode only" tag from the One-Up powerup... however, in the multiplayer variants of Bomberman it is not available. Only its variant, the "Heart", is avaiable in Multiplayer. -- xertnevnI

OK, I made that change. xertnevnI 04:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Template

I've recently created and added a Bomberman template to most of the Bomberman-related articles. If you have any questions or comments please contact me on my talk page. --TBC^{??? ??? ???} 04:46, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Awesome. It helped me find the article on the original Bomberman that I was beginning to think didn't exist. Now that I've found it, I see it could use an upgrade. Thanks! Spamguy 21:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Powerups & Characters

I don't like the idea of Powerups and Characters for all Bomberman games being discussed in this particular article. Obviously many things mentioned here are not present in all games, but their citation here implies that they're in every BM game since Day 1. I would recommend moving these objects to specific BM game articles in which they appear. There would be some repetition between articles (Extra Bombs probably appears in every BM game), but that's OK.

Hmmm, speaking of which, the Extra Bombs powerup isn't mentioned. Neither is the Blast Radius Boost (or whatever it's called). These are the most obvious ones, people! :) Spamguy 21:37, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Panic Bomber?

You'll have to forgive me, as I'm not certian how to edit templates, but..

The game Panic Bomber is missing from the Bomberman template. Could someone add it in? 71.124.16.93 14:02, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Done. Spamguy 17:00, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

All?

Is it necessary to put information for all those characters in this article? Looks like listcruft to me... -- Jared Hunt July 30, 2006, 11:12 (UTC)

See my comment in 'Powerups & Characters'. I'd do something, but I'm not that aggressive a Wikipedia editor to pull off a fix of this magnitude; nor do I have the time. Spamguy 15:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Should have read more carefully. Unless it's separated, that's way too much. I think just naming the characters, etc. would be quite enough. Your opinion? -- Jared Hunt August 2, 2006, 13:42 (UTC)

I suggest making a page for all the Bomberman characters, and having the most recurring characters (white and black Bomberman, Pretty Bomber, Max, Buggler and maybe a couple of others) listed here with a link to the character list. --212.159.26.9 20:43, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe that would be classified as Listcruft. -- Jared Hunt August 6, 2006, 13:17 (UTC)

I agree, only the important, reoccuring characters should appear here. As I recall, that's how it was originally set up when the "characters" section first appeared, before people started listing every minor boss that ever appeared in a game. So, yeah, characters like White, Black, Pretty, Bagular, etc. should stay, everyone else should either be removed, or separated to a different page.Rorshacma 23:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Bombermen

Is this section an inside joke or something? It's complete gibberish for one thing. If I am parsing the parens correctly, the article is arguing about the race of a video game character based on artwork and in-game events? No, this has to be a joke... Maury 11:59, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Not a joke, just poorly written. Altair 19:06, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Snippage!! Maury

Overly-long character section

Have you seen that thing? It's huge! There must be some way to shorten it. Joizashmo 15:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, like discussed earlier, only the main characters, and important, reoccuring enemy characters should be here. The rest should either be moved to their respective games, or have a "Minor Bomberman Characters" article made. And the anime-only characters really shouldn't be here at all. It just looks overly long and cluttered the way it is now.Rorshacma 18:26, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I've split off the characters section, since it was just too long for this article. I think that perhaps some information can be merged back in, but for the most part it doesn't really belong in this article. jaco♫plane 19:04, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Dyna Blaster

Hudson Soft in 1992 also released a version of Bomberman for PC under different name "Dyna Blaster". More info I think it's also worth mentioning and possibly including in the Bomberman series box on the bottom. And an article about it is also missing.

--RoSe-BuSTeR 13:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

YouTube links

This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 05:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Fifth generation

Fifth generation Act Zero • Bomberman Land???

Isn't suppoesed to be 7th? --67.68.252.220 04:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Major Vandalism

Someone took the liberty of vandalising the Bomberman article. Anyone care to help restore it? I don't know how to do that major editing. Commander Regulus 05:16, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I wonder who did that... Anyway, I'm working on it. Zeeco 21:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Xbox 360 Live???

Wikipedia is missing an XBOX Live game downloadable by the XBOX 360 called "Bomberman Live".66.72.192.225 (talk) 15:46, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Bomberman Wiki

I'm a huge fan of Bomberman myself. I suggest that there should be a Wiki for him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.231.59.254 (talk) 16:25, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Bomberman gameplay is Tactical, not Strategic

Tactics and Strategy, while both related to war and combat, are not the same thing. Strategy relies on things related to supply lines, production, and numerical superiority; all of which are absent from the player's control. Tactics is what relates to things like exploiting cover and fencing in your opponent, which is the essence of Bomberman gameplay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.118.27.60 (talk) 03:43, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Genre Discrepancy?

I'm slightly confused - how is Bomberman a platform game series? I would personally describe it as an action game, but it's definitely never been a platformer as far as I've ever noticed. -- Somarinoa (talk) 07:08, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

I updated the pic

tell me if i did anything wrong. Maxwell the scribblenaut (talk) 00:11, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Everything's fine. Thanx for pic. Sir Lothar (talk) 12:35, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

The pic is deleted, you need to reupload the pic and tag it as fair use.--Krystaleen 04:26, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Dynablaster

Plenty of Amiga magazines refer to Bomberman as Dynablaster - http://hol.abime.net/462/review. 87.114.51.143 (talk) 21:16, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done, Sir Lothar (talk) 07:09, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Rooi not "Rooney"

Those kangaroo things that turn up from around Bomberman '94 are called Rooi not Rooney (although they have been known to play football) See https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/bomberman-94-psp/ and http://bomberman.wikia.com/wiki/Louies . A joke perhaps? 91.125.164.60 (talk) 17:00, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Possible removal from list

An entry in List of colors: A–F contained a link to this page.

The entry is :

• Cool black

I don't see any evidence that this color is discussed in this article and plan to delete it from the list per this discussion: Talk:List_of_colors#New_approach_to_review_of_entries

If someone decides that this color should have a section in this article and it is added, I would appreciate a ping.--S Philbrick(Talk) 15:59, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

First game

I oppose the statement about the NES game being the first one as well as 1987 as the year of the series' inception. Even though the 1983 game isn't as similar as the games we all know, it's still considered the debut of the franchise. [2][3][4]. Even Konami, the current owner of the IP, take into account the series' inception in 1983.[5] There is no point in adjudging that it first started in 1989 or 1987 when the article about the first game disambiguates it under the "1983 video game" title and two other Bomberman games (3-D Bomberman and Robowarrior) were previously released. Also, in Wikipedia we go by the first ever release and not by any other specific region's release date/year. As there was no consensus with those changes, I restored it with new reliable secondary sources. I suggest reach a consensus in this talk page before making edits like those. 200.59.159.162 (talk) 00:10, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

I completely agree, not to mention I find the sources being used in these edits as proof to be somewhat questionable.

https://twitter.com/bomberman573/status/678858660718624768

This specifically mentions that it's the 30th anniversary of Bomberman, the Family Computer game, which in no way contradicts Konami's stance that 1983 is the release year of Bomberman, the series.

https://web.archive.org/web/20050601034537/http://www.hudson.co.jp:80/corp/news/bn1998/9812.pdf

This appears to be a standard press release for a game which, by all accounts, is a remake of the 1985 game with multiplayer, so the wording seems ambiguous.

https://web.archive.org/web/20101129223305/http://hudsonentertainment.com/features/detail/Bomberman-Portal-Page

This is being used as reference stating that the series launched in the US in 1987, which is unnecessary as stated above.

新ボンバーマン全百科 (Shin Bomberman Zenhyakka)

I cannot confirm if this is legitimate or even licensed/endorsed by Hudson Soft, but I tentatively left it in the article, though it could use a specific quote and page.

Meanwhile, the simple observable fact is that Konami not only holds the copyright to Hudson Soft's franchises, but fully absorbed Hudson Soft as a corporate entity, so it holds all of Hudson Soft's assets and history. Super Bomberman R specifically states, within various promotional material, the box art and the game itself, to be "BOMBERMAN 33rd SINCE 1983" (self-explanatory). Konami also allowed former Hudson Soft staff to work on Super Bomberman R, so this moniker is, for all intents and purposes, blessed by the remnants of Hudson. The rationale to revert the information is that Hudson Soft's word is more legitimate than Konami's, which is just an opinion - again, the clear fact is that the series is not stuck in a time capsule that ended when Hudson did, but is actively continuing as a Konami property, and as mentioned the Hudson-era information looks vague. Even if this were somehow true, that does not give us the right to suppress current information, which is what the edits are doing. I suggest protecting the page. Metalsonic89 (talk) 12:20, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

An additional reference has been added in a recent edit.

スーパーボンバーマンハドソン公式ガイドブック (Super Bomberman Kōshiki Guide Book)

Unfortunately for the insister, this book is easily available online, so it can be verified. The pages in question are 104 and 105, particularly the first. What it describes is the creation of Bomberman (ボンバーマン) on Famicom, and it briefly mentions Bomber Man (爆弾男). The relevant portions are the caption on the lower-left and two sentences to the upper-right of it. First, the former:

ファミコンの登場(とうじょう)が、ボンバーマ ン誕生(たんじょう)のきっかけといってもいい。 (The Famicom's appearance can be said to be the cause for the birth of Bomberman.)

This sentence can be taken several ways, but it is more of a casual suggestion than a factual statement. I take it to mean that this is when familiar elements such as varied power-ups and enemies began to appear, serving as the basis for future games and especially the renowned multiplayer. Alternatively, it can refer to the look of the main character, taken from the Famicom version of Lode Runner. Then, the latter:

苦心(くしん)の末(すえ)にBASIC(ベーシック)コンパイラは完成(かんせい)し、このコンパイラの機能(きのう)を試験(しけん)するために書(か)かれたテストプログラムが「爆弾男(ばくだんおとこ)」というゲームだったのです。 このゲームはボンバーマンの原形(ばんけい)となるソフトで、爆弾(ばくだん)を置(お)いて爆発(ばくはつ)させて敵(てき)を倒(たお)すという点(てん)では今(いま)のボンバーマンと全(まった)く同(おな)じです。 (After much trouble, the BASIC compiler was completed, and the test program written to test the functionality of this compiler was a game known as "Bomber Man". This game software is Bomberman's original form, and it is exactly the same as current Bomberman in the sense of placing a bomb and blasting it to defeat the enemy.)

Needless to say, this tells us nothing about the actual launch year of the franchise, so it is completely irrelevant; if anything, it supports the original home computer game as a legitimate part of the franchise, so I question the potential misuse of Shin Bomberman Zenhyakka as a source. Metalsonic89 (talk) 14:08, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

I don't know why there should even be a discussion about this. The first Bomberman was released in 1983 by Hudson soft. That's a fact, and can be easily verified. So, stating that the first game was the NES one in 1985/7 is just spreading false information. Thus, this page should be changed to reflect that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:5700:8B0:F1B7:E47F:318B:195F (talk) 19:24, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Agreed, I recently made an edit to specify the 1983 game, but it got changed despite the series page listing the 1983 game, and the 1985 Famicom game pretty much being a sprite swapped port of the 1983 game. Either the 1983 game is part of the series, or it isn’t, so which is it? Electricmastro (talk) 03:47, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

I've also edited the page to specify the 1983 game.Thecleanerand (talk) 22:52, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Can someone issue a ban to User:2404:7A85:2E80:A800:A010:926:283F:3DD7? Thecleanerand (talk) 16:59, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Ban User:Denisarona and User:Blaze The Wolf as well.Thecleanerand (talk) 19:49, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

I don't think a ban is necessary. You can simply just put in your edit summary, "edit explained on talk page" instead of just copy and pasting the same summary over and over. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry | Discord: Blaze Wolf#0001 (talk) 20:00, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Also, please remember to WP:AGF. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry | Discord: Blaze Wolf#0001 (talk) 20:00, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

https://web.archive.org/web/20050601034537/http://www.hudson.co.jp:80/corp/news/bn1998/9812.pdf

is written as “ボンバーマン”シリーズは、85年12月の第１作（ファミリーコンピュータ用）発売以来、累計販売本数1,000万本を超える、ハドソンを代表するアクションゲームです。（The "Bomberman" series has been released since the first release (for Family Computer) in December 1985. Hudson's representative Ak, which has sold more than 10 million units since then This is a game.） 2001:268:9A1C:3C0B:3F84:C220:F151:11F1 (talk) 03:25, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Wrong. The cooperate buzz pr piece you linked was talking about the port for NES that was published by Hudson Soft, not the original game it was based on. Even Konami, the current, active owners of the IP acknowledge the original game, unlike Hudson Soft. Just stop.Thecleanerand (talk) 19:30, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Bomberman Land (2000) is said to be Bomberman series's 15th anniversary software, and Bomberman Portable's Japanese package says since1985. 2001:268:9A1C:8960:FEA0:88A4:292C:B418 (talk) 20:40, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

And yet the packaging for Super Bomberman R advertises its 33rd anniversary as being since 1983?: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/switch/204231-super-bomberman-r/images/1639377 Electricmastro (talk) 20:51, 23 September 2021 (UTC)