Talk:Akitu

a bit of confusion....

"After the Assyrians converted to Christianity in the first century and the Gregorian calendar was established in the Christian world, the Assyrian also accepted the new calendar and they moved their new year from March 21st to April 1st. Iranians and other groups still today celebrate this day on March 21. (In Iran the New Years Day is called Noruz meaning "New Day".)"

Assyrians converted to Christianity in the 1st Century AD, the Gregorian calendar was adopted first in the 16th Century AD. This paragraph makes it seem as if these two events happened contemporaneously.

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I'm fairly sure they got "Gregorian" confused with "Julian". Or it's just terribly worded and should be something like "the Assyrians converted to Christianity in the first century. When the Gregorian calender was establish in the Christian world in the 16th century . . . " --334 03:09, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

From Ángel García [email protected]

  The article needs clarification.
  In 1964, the Western calendar was adopted by the Chicago-based ASSYRIAN Church of the East, a step meeting with such resistance as to lead to schism with the OLD Church of the East (Patriarch: Mar Addai II at Baghdâd.
   Transliteration is HaD b-Nisan "First of Nisan".
   
      García 212.34.171.43 (talk) 17:01, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

plural

"I. J. Gelb, MAD 3 25, and Von Soden Ahw 29a: the Akkadian plural is written a-ki-a-ti or a-ki-tum.MES"

I am not sure why we should specify the plural. Fwiiw, MEŠ (not MES) is just an orthographical plural marker you can suffix to anything, so it doesn't impart any information to state that the plural of akitum is akitum.MEŠ. This also isn't about Akkadian grammar. The article could note that the plural of akitum was akiati if that's really what we find in "I. J. Gelb, MAD 3 25, and Von Soden Ahw 29a" (full references? which of the two is it?) --dab (𒁳) 16:37, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Proposal to add article discussing evidence in support of the hypothesis that Thanksgiving can trace its earliest recorded origins to the ancient Mesopotamian festival of Akitu.

While I could well be wrong, I think Wikipedia readers (especially those in the United States and Canada) may be quite interested to read about the evidence that correlated the ancient Mesopotamian harvest festival of Akitu and later harvest festivals like Thanksgiving.

I can't imagine how this could be true. The natives couldn't possibly have known of this festival and I doubt the pilgrims would have either. If it's sourced put it up, but if the sources are fringe scholars the material will be deleted. Brianbleakley (talk) 22:59, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

I have not read about a possible Akitu relation to Thanksgiving before, but I remember reading about the origins of Easter and Passover possibly being derived from earlier spring festivals, including Akitu. It is incorrect to assume that a people must acknowledge the far-past origins of their current traditions, though. In some cases, even when there's a clear origin relation, those origins may even be categorically denied by practitioners (i.e. dismissed as pagan, etc). Often, the extant religions and nations have their own fundational myths which conflict with, or were designed to distinguish from earlier traditions. When these myths were not designed as such, we can also understand that after generations, wars, migrations and language transformations, people easily forget their origins; which is why we need archeology, history, anthropology, genealogy, molecular genetics (i.e. haplotypes), etc... 76.10.128.192 (talk) 17:37, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Sacaea

Is this really the same as Sacaea? I've read the Golden Bough and the Oxford Classical Dictionary and both describe Sacaea as a festival where slaves rule their masters and a condemned criminal is made king for 5 days before he is executed. This isn't mentioned in the article (and it is likely of the most interest to your average 21st century reader). I could research this to determine if the festivals are the same; does anyone here know off-hand? A cursory internet search seems to indicate that these are different festivals. I think Sacaea deserves its own article, not just a redirect.
Perhaps Zagmuk, Sacaea and Akitu could all be discussed in one article called Ancient Mesopotamian New Year Festivals.
Brianbleakley (talk) 22:49, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

"New moon of Aviv"

I'm not sure what the original contributor meant to say, but Aviv is the Hebrew month that comes before Nissan. And all months begin on the new moon. So the new moon of Aviv doesn't start the Ecclesiastic year, New Moon of Nissan does. Also the paragraph makes it sound like the new moon of Aviv is called Nissan. The Hebrew calendar month names are the same as the Assyrian. The Inkling 14:28, 31 March 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by YourCaptMorgan (talk • contribs)