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AfC notification: Draft:DeAna Fai has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:DeAna Fai. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 03:31, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, well. Twinkle thinks that you are the author of this draft because you moved it to draft space last year. Interesting. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:35, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for The Queue

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Craig overton

Why have I been blocked? If you look at the sources already given I’m giving you the facts.. he was allegedly called a racist.. CDC found him guilty for language(not racism) therefor collecting the total amount of points to incur a 2 game ban! Please delete this segment as it’s totally incorrect! Thank you Southernraider (talk) 10:23, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Zinc2 (09:51, 10 January 2023)

Hello, I am wondering how I can add an article cover for a product developed at my company? Thanks. --Zinc2 (talk) 09:51, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Zinc2 - firstly, you need to disclose your paid editing status. You can do that on your userpage (which will initially be a blank page asking you to create it - just type in the box). Say that you are a paid editor working for XXXX company, with a plan to write about YYYY product.
A couple of initial questions - does your company have a wikipedia article already? What do you mean by an "article cover"? Nosebagbear (talk) 10:17, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I only want an article about my company's product in detail, like what date the product was published and the names of the designers and name of product, that's all. It is a video game. Let me check out my userpage

Thank you. Zinc2 (talk) 10:27, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My company does not have a Wikipedia article yet. Zinc2 (talk) 10:47, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Zinc2 that disclosure is fine. The next step is sourcing. You need at least 3 sources that meet all of the following criteria to be "Notable": they're secondary (for a game, that usually means news media reviews of the game); reliable (no blogs, publication usually accurate); independent (no reason to be biased, no interviews) and have significant coverage of the topic (10+ lines is what I use).
For a good guide of this, this explanation can help.
This is the most common failing point for any new article - most products and companies are not notable. This list is by no means exclusive, but will give you a good guide as to what sources might be reliable or not. If you find 3-5 sources you are confident meet all of the above, let me know and I'll run you through the next steps. Nosebagbear (talk) 11:03, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from Sga4mvp on Chris Silva (15:44, 31 January 2023)

I think I accidentally messed up Chris Silva (basketball) page --Sga4mvp (talk) 15:44, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Sga4mvp,
No worries, making errors while editing the infoboxes is something that will still happen occasionally to me.
First piece of advice is just what to do when something has gone wrong (as it's useful so broadly):
  1. On the article, click the "view history" tab. So for this, this would take you to this page
  2. It will have a list of edits, with whatever edit has just caused the problem on top. At the end of the edit summary, will be an (undo). Click it.
  3. It will load up the changes this would make, you can check if you want to do it, and then implement.
Second piece of advice is to ensure you've previewed the article, if you are using source editor (which is obvious with lots of "{{" and "}}" around). On the visual editor (which I'd suggest to you for most things, early on), it'll look a little like MS word. Give it a minute at the end before pressing submit so it has had time to try and show you a preview. Nosebagbear (talk) 16:50, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Possible HiP RfC

I really like your RfC idea. I'm willing to start one myself if I absolutely have to, but I really don't think I should be the one to do it. My experience with big project-space discussions is pretty limited, so I don't think I'd be able to outline potential procedures nearly as well as many of the more experienced editors who've chimed in at the case request. It seems to me that an RfC would be most useful if it was initiated by ArbCom itself, since the arbitrators would probably have a better idea of what would and wouldn't be feasible for the committee, especially with respect to the potential involvement of outside experts. I'd have said so on the case request page, but I'm very close to the 500-word limit, and I'd like to get a better idea of what I'd be proposing before I make a statement there. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. — SamX [talk · contribs] 01:02, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SamX - I'd be distinctly reticent to start such an RfC, as I believe it would still be a violation of the 3rd pillar - I just believe that it wouldn't set a precedent (ArbCom can say it doesn't have precedent, but traditionally they view prior cases as "persuasive precedent", because in most cases that makes sense) that our purely conduct body can also indirectly control content. So it would solve the latter of these two issues, but not the former - that was the aspect with which regard I raised it.
It's already in a DS/CT category, so to me the greater issue is the staying power of problematic editors vs (positive ones + interested conduct admins). This whole process is quite beneficial for bumping the positive ones, and it's certainly possible the case side of things can help with the former. Whether doing so from such a flawed document will hinder such is a possibility - hence my statement concerns, but obviously there are significant issues there, even if reported in a one-sided and ill-evidenced fashion. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:16, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your input. Sorry I took so long to reply, I've been very busy recently.
To be clear, I'm absolutely not opining that ArbCom should ghostwrite the article or anything like that. I think findings of fact along the lines of "The authors of source 1 have ties to a think tank that funds right-wing nationalist political advocacy, and the validity of the source is challenged by mainstream academics", or "Editor A has misrepresented sources and repeatedly introduced sources to articles that are regarded dubiously by the wider academic community" could give the en.wp community the tools and direction to more effectively identify problematic editors and handle these types of toxic content disputes in the future. Given that the entire case is based on an article that discusses concerns like this at length, it would seem a bit silly to me if ArbCom didn't do so, especially given the consensus that the article shouldn't be taken at face value. A violation of the third pillar, perhaps, but one could make an argument that the first and fourth pillars are being violated as we speak. Obviously, a situation where it's even worth considering compromising one pillar for the benefit of others is far from ideal and doesn't have any easy solutions.
Again, thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I feel very out of my depth weighing in on stuff like this, and I really appreciate your reply here. — SamX [talk · contribs] 03:35, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from SirPineapl (12:46, 2 March 2023)

Hi! I want to make a page, but don't know where to start. Can you help? It's about this game I play at school, called Gimkit. It's like Kahoot and Blooket, but there's RPG modes. --SirPineapl (talk) 12:46, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @SirPineapl - welcome to Wikipedia!
If you want to create a page from scratch, as a new editor, there's two things that it's good to do.
  1. Learn the basics of making a few edits - I'd suggest going to Help:Intro (the visual editor pathway) and read the "editing" and "referencing" quickguides. Then go and make a few edits on already existing articles, including finding and adding some references.
  2. After you've done that, for any new article to exist, it needs at least 3 sources that are: secondary (usually, that's news media); reliable; independent (lacking bias, but also no interviews) and fairly in-depth (10+ lines about the actual topic). So see if you can find three sources about Gimkit that meet all the above.
If you're not sure what I mean by all the secondary/reliable stuff, this guide covers it pretty well with examples.
If you let me know about 3-5 sources you find, I can tell you if I think they're good enough to use as the basis for a new article. Good hunting! Nosebagbear (talk) 12:00, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed this as I was on the tutorial page! haha SirPineapl (talk) 13:00, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I need to start a wiki page for a historical Australian theme. How do I do that. --Bill mcqueen (talk) 11:58, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Surf012 (15:52, 9 March 2023)

Good day! I have pictures of a ‘light pillar w/ orb’ to share on wiki. Would you help me post in the correct place ? --Surf012 (talk) 15:52, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Surf012, welcome to Wikipedia - and Wikimedia as well.
You won't be able to upload locally, but you can upload it on Wikimedia Commons - that's our shared photo library. Once it's there, it can be used on any article.
The guide is at this page - step 4 will have you click on the wizard that will actually take you through uploading it. Please, please, make sure to read the guide as you go. Nosebagbear (talk) 17:24, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

World War II and the history of Jews in Poland: Arbitration case opened

Hello Nosebagbear,

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland/Evidence. Please add your evidence by April 04, 2023, which is when the first evidence phase closes. Submitted evidence will be summarized by Arbitrators and Clerks at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland/Evidence/Summary. Owing to the summary style, editors are encouraged to submit evidence in small chunks sooner rather than more complete evidence later.

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Question from Qplb191 (10:25, 20 March 2023)

why? What I’ve done wrong? It’s not against the Wikipedia rules to have prior accounts --Qplb191 (talk) 10:25, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I didn’t use this to make violates edits … Qplb191 (talk) 10:26, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Qplb191, it is indeed not inherently against the rules to have prior accounts. Some of the ways that it might be problematic:
i) Your edits with the two accounts overlap in time, so if you used two of them in the space topic space (that is, broader than just an article) that would be problematic
ii) If you receive warnings within the last 6-12 months on your first account, there will be concern that moving to a new account is an attempt to "reset the clock"
iii) If there are any sanctions on an earlier account short of blocking, then you need to have notified someone to duplicate them over.
Nosebagbear (talk) 11:23, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You are right. but you can check and see that I did not use both accounts in the same articles or to make vandalism edits. Therefore it is not justified. Qplb191 (talk) 11:26, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I answered your question, I do have prior accounts, but I’ve never used them in a way that which violates the rules of Wikipedia and you can check and verify it. Qplb191 (talk) 10:17, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Qplb191 I wasn't the one accusing you of sockpuppetry, but if you are prior accounts that you have no issues disclosing, you should disclose them on your userpage. Harder for individuals to claim you're hiding something when they're prominently noted. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:41, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have no problem closing the second account. I have nothing to hide, I only had one account that I did not use to violate the Wikipedia rules. Qplb191 (talk) 10:44, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have one account @Fun71528 this account is from year ago. But you can check and see that I did not used this account to break Wikipedia’s rules . Not even one time…. Qplb191 (talk) 11:01, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

202,134 cookies for you!

Thank you for righting my wrongs and helping me. SirPineapl (talk) 13:33, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Grapes.

Here's to a GRAPE day!
I'm GRAPE-ful to you for all your help SirPineapl (talk) 13:47, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Girdhari1305 (10:17, 25 March 2023)

Why wiki bans me for infinite period --Girdhari1305 (talk) 10:17, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What do I do about vandalism?

Hi, I'm kinda new to Wikipedia!


I've found that a non-registered user (IP address only) made inappropriate changes to the article Hatra. The changes included indiscriminately removing references to it as an Arab city: including the renaming of the UNESCO region 'Arab States' to a fictitious 'Middle East' region and even outright removal of important facts from the history of the city. The infobox was also broken as a result.


I've reverted the relevant changes.


Questions:

- What do we usually do about vandalism?

- How are users that vandalise articles warned? Or what other actions are to be taken with them?

- What do we do when the changes are not made by registered users? Hoborex (talk) 17:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Hoborex, welcome to Wikipedia. You can read the below (which I spent a while tapping out), or you can read the better, clearer, guide at Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism. Therefore nicely offering an opportunity for me to say "check what others have done first before you duplicate their work" :D
The usual progression of handling vandalism is:
  1. Revert it (or fix it, if it's not the most recent edit/edits)
  2. Warn the user, using an ascending set of warnings.
  3. If they've received several warnings (usually 3 for vandalism, but might be less if they're particularly unpleasant or if they're blitzing through it), report them at WP:AIV - our noticeboard for vandalism
  4. An admin will check the case, and act or not.
In most ways, it's the same process for IP editors and editors with accounts. If you see an article getting similar vandalism from lots of different IP accounts, you can ask for help as the regular "warn/block" progression won't work, but in most instances it should still work well. One key difference is that if you find old vandalism from an IP editor (anything more than a week or two will probably suffice), warning may be unwise, as a new person may have that IP address.
Handling vandalism is not too difficult in the main - you've already done the most key part by your fourth edit! There are some key things that further learning can help you with, including:
  1. Being confident it's actual vandalism, rather than bad editing.
  2. Making life way easier for yourself
  3. Getting good training if you want to specialist in counter-vandalism (though likely a bit early for that - I'd suggest getting a couple of hundred edits to figure out what you like doing first). One for later. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:01, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from QUEEN GRACE (20:41, 27 March 2023)

Hello how do i add videos and pictures from pinterest --QUEEN GRACE (talk) 20:41, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Quoted

I've quoted you in my recent evidence statement at ArbCom here. Due to word limitations, I only quoted a part of your statement. I hope it is ok with you. If you think I am misquoting you or that I misunderstood your point, please let me know and I'll refactor what I wrote or strike the quote out. As someone subject to being misquoted, I certainly don't want to do it myself to anyone. (To be clear, you are not a party and you are in no danger of being sanctioned for anything). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:53, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, Liance! How Are You? Actually, I Have a Question "Can I Edit Or Remove The Another Citation in Article If I Think This Content is Not Updated" --Kazmi.sol (talk) 07:37, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kazmi.sol - if you are replacing with a more up to date, equally reliable and secondary source, then sure. But removing a source just because you, personally, know that the source and/or content is out of date won't be accepted - wikipedia is very source-oriented. As to the sizing, don't put in a manual size for images in articles. As that article has to work for mobile phones up to huge screens, putting in a manual size causes real problems. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:50, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Where to start from?

Hey,


Hope you are doing well. You are one of the oldest editors that I found. I try to do random editing on some articles. But I want to learn in depth. I want to learn how to create a new page and all other details. Please can you help me out? Where can I learn these things from? How to start? IAmPushpak (talk) 11:37, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @IAmPushpak, welcome to Wikipedia (though I see you've been around for a bit, so belated hellos).
The first step is to see if you can do each thing covered by our normal how-to guide. Go to Help:Intro, pick whichever path you want (Source editing/Visual editor), and work through each bit. Do you understand each bit? Could you find and do an edit on each aspect it explains? If not, that's cool, just learn from it and try it out. If yes, then you can go to:
Article writing. You mention you want to learn how to do it - and it is fairly difficult, but not impossible. First thing is to find a topic that interests you that doesn't yet have an article. Pick something that isn't about a living (or recently deceased) person. If you're struggling for ideas, then Wikipedia:Requested articles might be able to help, though lots would be unsuitable.
Your First Article is the detailed guide on writing your first article. You probably won't need all of it, but it will walk you through the whole process. It makes it clear there, but the key stage is source finding. Find 3-5 good sources as your first thing - if you can't, then you could be a great editor and it wouldn't be enough. Wikipedia lives and dies on its sourcing. Nosebagbear (talk) 14:07, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Atul Raghav 'RFU'

Hi, The subject with name was deleted earlier due to less reliable sources and non-notability of the subject. However, I have noticed a significant change and the subject should be on wikipedia by GNG process. I'm attaching the url's to the subject below.

1. https://www.indiatvnews.com/sports/other/atul-raghav-international-taekwondo-player-who-is-working-to-develop-sports-in-ghaziabad-2022-10-11-815301

2. https://www.aninews.in/news/sports/others/meet-atul-raghav-taekwondo-player-who-is-all-set-to-represent-india-at-heroes-cup-in-bangkok20221220140831/

3. https://spogonews.com/i-want-to-change-the-existing-situation-of-taekwondo-in-india-atul-raghav-2/

4. https://firstsportz.com/atul-raghav-speaks-out-on-condition-of-his-sport/

5. https://theprint.in/sport/meet-atul-raghav-taekwondo-player-who-is-all-set-to-represent-india-at-heroes-cup-in-bangkok/1272622/

7. https://www.scriptcitynews.com/2023/01/09/1128/

8. https://samachartoday.co.in/state/uttar-pradesh/indian-taekwondo-player-atul-raghav-takes-forward-the/cid10612893.htm

9. http://www.udaybhoomi.com/gajiabad/atul-raghav-the-brand-ambassador-of-municipal-corporation-raised-the-value-of-ghaziabad/

10. https://www.citynewshindi.com/2023/04/blog-post_26.html

11. https://www.jagran.com/uttar-pradesh/ghaziabad-atul-wins-bronze-in-gw-international-taekwondo-championship-19999379.html

12. https://www.jagran.com/news/state-players-engaged-in-practice-in-the-roof-and-courtyard-of-the-house-20833967.html

13. https://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/state/uttar-pradesh/ghaziabad/atul-and-harsh-will-play-in- dubai/articleshow/73707541.cms Divineplus (talk) 09:33, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]


@Divineplus: I asked for 2-4 sources. Which are the best 2-4 sources of this list? Nosebagbear (talk) 10:42, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay got it, Here's the list.
1. https://www.indiatvnews.com/sports/other/atul-raghav-international-taekwondo-player-who-is-working-to-develop-sports-in-ghaziabad-2022-10-11-815301
2. https://www.aninews.in/news/sports/others/meet-atul-raghav-taekwondo-player-who-is-all-set-to-represent-india-at-heroes-cup-in-bangkok20221220140831/
3. https://firstsportz.com/atul-raghav-speaks-out-on-condition-of-his-sport/
4. https://theprint.in/sport/meet-atul-raghav-taekwondo-player-who-is-all-set-to-represent-india-at-heroes-cup-in-bangkok/1272622/ Divineplus (talk) 11:16, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Divineplus - so it's slightly tricky as none of the interview content (which makes up a large amount of all of these) is counted - it's inherently non-neutral and non-secondary. That said, there is significant coverage in each article outside of the interview process.
I believe you are correct that the subject does now meet notability. I've undeleted the article and moved it to Draft:Atul Raghav. There you can add content and the new sources, before moving it mainspace when done. Please don't move it mainspace before adding new content/sourcing. Nosebagbear (talk) 14:21, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @Nosebagbear and do help me to improve the articles further whenever needed. Divineplus (talk) 06:31, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Mohammed Raqibur Rahman (Andrew) on User talk:Mohammed Raqibur Rahman (Andrew) (19:16, 15 May 2023)

I am going to publish my father's Biography who was the legendary ophthalmologist in Bangladesh spanning more than a decade. It's going to take perhaps a month to obtain all the relevant information about him & finally publish it. --Mohammed Raqibur Rahman (Andrew) (talk) 19:16, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Mohammed Raqibur Rahman (Andrew) - I'm not sure if there is a question intended here. Good luck on your work - a few key reminders:
1) It's really hard to write a fully neutral (which doesn't just mean accurate - you can be non-neutral and still truthful by, say, excluding some things) when you have a close connection like yours. Do make sure to disclose your connection on the draft's talk page
2) Help:Intro and your first article are the go-to pages for doing this - they'll help a lot
3) Remember that it's all about reliable, secondary sources on Wikipedia.
Best of luck, hope it goes well and enjoy writing it. Nosebagbear (talk) 19:38, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Revision delete request

Revisions https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tom_O%27Carroll&oldid=1146912803 to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tom_O%27Carroll&oldid=1154835519 of this article contain links to a pedophile’s personal blog. I think that’s a clear violation of Wikipedia:Child protection Dronebogus (talk) 11:29, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Growth team newsletter #26

Welcome to the twenty-sixth newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations

One million Suggested Edits

We passed the 1 million Suggested edits milestone in late April!

  • The Suggested edits feature (AKA Newcomer tasks) increase newcomer activation by ~12%, which flows on through to increased retention. (source)
  • Suggested edits increase the number of edits newcomers complete in their first two weeks and have a relatively low revert rate. (source)
  • Suggested edits are available on all Wikipedia language editions.
  • Newer Suggested edits, like Add a link and Add an image, aren’t yet deployed to all wikis, but these structured tasks further increase the probability that newcomers will make their first edit. (source)

Positive reinforcement

Positive reinforcement aims to encourage newcomers who have visited our homepage and tried Growth features to keep editing.

  • The new Impact module was released to Growth pilot wikis in December 2022, and we are now scaling the feature to another ten wikis. [8]
  • The Leveling up features are deployed at our pilot wikis.
  • The Personalized praise features were deployed at our pilot wikis on May 24. Mentors at pilot wikis will start to receive notifications weekly when they have “praise-worthy” mentees. Mentors can configure their notification preferences or disable these notifications.

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
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Arbitration

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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

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New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).

Reminders

Question from Adenoghie (22:52, 21 June 2023)

What the best way to approach an article? --forthekingdom 22:52, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Adenoghie,
Could you clarify a little what you mean - is this with regard to some your drafts? Or working on live articles? The approach will vary somewhat depending on what you're trying to do. Nosebagbear (talk) 11:50, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes and yes... But especially working on live article.
Thank you forthekingdom 12:16, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Adenoghie so in terms of generally applicable advice - it's all about the sources. We advise "working backwards" on new content, which means find sources first and only includes what's there. Material about a living (or recently deceased) individual requires inline sourcing for each statement - it can't just use a generally applicable source.
But those sources also need to be reliable and independent. That's somewhat trickier to advise on in your field - Nigerian sources, for example, not being an area I know much about. The tone of that was probably an issue because it includes bits like "and visionary dedicated to bringing about positive change in Nigeria" and "here he laid the foundation for his future endeavors" or "instilling in him leadership, mobilization, and networking skills". Where those aren't sourced it's just outright promotional. Where they are, it means you need to be completely sure that the source is reliable enough that such a positive statement is acceptable. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:39, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, now I understand better and my intent wasn't promotional but now that you made mention of it, I see what you mean. I was only trying to be positive but now I know better. Please cross check because I have made some adjustments using your guide.
Thank you for your time. And one more thing, I was trying to clarify a dispute or a contradiction earlier with respect to Zuma Rock and Abuja. Confirm if I made the adjustments the right way and advise. forthekingdom 13:33, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's quite possible that the viewed face and associated efforts both belong in some place in the article, but it would need sourcing (which presumably exists if there was such a dispute). While obviously it's good for articles to say the same things about the same objects/events and correct where they don't, you'd want to just replicate the sources in one - rather than just pointing to another article.
Generally if there isn't any ongoing discussion in a talk page section related to what you want to say, then you should either skip it (as no longer of any interest to the participants) or start a new section (if you yourself want to discuss it). If the two discussions had been ongoing when you commented, I'd have said "you probably want to include a source for the face-related point" while the volcanic point was reasonable. However, congrats on finding the talk page so early - will save you a much less messy start than myself and so many others! Nosebagbear (talk) 17:34, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Today has been an interesting with the new knowledge and tips that has come my way today. Thank you for given me a new perspective of things. I kinda live close to the Zuma Rock thus the reason why I have first hand knowledge about the whole thing. Is it possible to connect a Wikipedia Commons picture to buttress the face-related point?
I am grateful for your mentorship, thank you. forthekingdom 18:27, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
While it can be worthwhile adding such a picture if you mention it in the article (I don't know if one exists), it can't actually be used to make the point of there being a face on it. That would be original research, and likewise, if it hasn't received any coverage (and I have to think it has), then it also couldn't be due coverage to include it. Nosebagbear (talk) 18:52, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, thank you for the insight. There isn't any article currently about the face. But I will make my personal project to work on the research. And there few coverage on some news articles, I believe will help with the needed citation. forthekingdom 07:45, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
After making the necessary adjustments the article was still deleted please what did do wrong? forthekingdom 13:40, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I eventually wrote the article about Zuma Rock titled Draft:Zuma Rock (Human Face): Mystic or Fact please check and correct. (thank) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adenoghie (talk • contribs) 15:12, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Clovermoss

Hi, I was wondering if you had an answer for the question I asked at AN? [12] The thread is archived now and I forgot to ping you, so I'm not sure if you even had a chance to see that I asked a question so I figured I'd ask just in case. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 12:20, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Clovermoss I did see it, but I didn't have a great answer. As well as being dependent on different factors, it's also a matter of disagreement by community members. 12 hours is going to be functionally always, 3 hours I wouldn't (although that's still fairly long), at 6 and above is more a matter of judgement. Nosebagbear (talk) 21:50, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Administrator changes

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Bureaucrat changes

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Issues

User Tamzin, whom you have dealt with in the past for disruptive edits has removed legitimately referenced content from the Soa Palelei article. When additional references were brought forward she requested block on the pages. She has also caused Great damage to the Rock Machine Motorcycle Club page. I'm sure that there's some information that she removed that was not properly referenced, I didn't take a look. 22,000 characters were removed no citation needed tags and it looked like some of it was properly referenced. It may be possible that she has a connection to this Palelei or something. But she didn't properly read through any references. Even if accusations against someone are made or legal matters it is still mentioned on their Wikipedia page it is not seen as deflammatory if they are legitimately accused or guilty of something. And it is widely published by other independent sources anyway. I employ you to take a look at least. a lot of damages be done and I've been blocked so I can't fix it, I commented to her that she shouldn't delete that much information that does have some proper referencing until the rest of it has been properly researched and references found for those items. I requested that she simply add citation needed tags like we are supposed to so that that information can be looked into. She seems like a corrupt user when you tried to deal with her she told you to "f off" and said she would report you I basically got the same thing for just trying to be civil. Sanjinduran (talk) 10:54, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sanjinduran - so to start with, as far as I can tell, this is a sockpuppet account being used to evade a block (which are placed against people, not accounts), so I will be blocking this after I've responded to the other aspects.
The most key aspect of your statement is that I don't believe you've read WP:BLPCRIME, even though it was mentioned in several edit summaries in the two articles - there are rules regarding mentioning crimes that impose a much higher burden than the regular sourcing rules or US defamation law.
Regarding the content deletion aspects, you (or another editor, now) could have just added back the aspects that did have sources. Citation needed tags have a variable usage, depending on how inclusionist or deletionist an editor is, but there are certain types of unsupported claims that should be removed on sight. These are particularly the case with living individuals. The burden of evidence is on the person trying to add content to the article.
I also can't see any talk page attempts to try to demonstrate that the burden had indeed been met.
Finally, you suggest Tamzin has a link to Palelei and you state she's a corrupt user without evidence, blatanly breaching NPA. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:30, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Question from AlphaSiklista (02:42, 15 July 2023)

Hello --AlphaSiklista (talk) 02:42, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @AlphaSiklista welcome to Wikipedia!
Let me know if there's something I can help you find or understand :)
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Question from Jimbo2u (11:47, 20 July 2023)

Can't find a way to correct wrong URL in link in References. --Jimbo2u (talk) 11:47, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Growth team newsletter #27

Welcome to the twenty-seventh newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations

Annual plan for Growth

We shared our annual plan, for the period July 2023 - June 2024.

Our first project of the year will be Community configuration 2.0, which helps editors with extended rights transparently and easily configure important on-wiki functionality.

After we finish work on Community configuration 2.0, we will hope to fit in one of the following projects:

  • Article creation: This project aims to provide new editors with better guidance and guardrails in the article creation process, with the intention of lightening the load of new page reviewers.
  • Non-editing participation: This project aims to create low-risk ways for readers to participate in Wikipedia with the intention of funneling more readers into contributing to the Wikimedia movement.

Please let us know what you think about these projects on the related talk page, or Growth's annual plan talk page.

Suggested edits

The new "Add an image" section-level task

We released a new Section-level “add an image” structured task to Growth pilot wikis (Arabic, Bengali, Czech, and Spanish). This task was part of the Structured Data Across Wikipedia project. We are monitoring the edits made, and we look for community feedback as well.

Suggested Edits are now receiving topic predictions via the new Language-Agnostic Topic Classification. This change affects non-English Wikipedia wikis. It will ensure newcomers receive a greater diversity of task recommendations. Before, as this feature was a test, English Wikipedia was used to select topics. The change is gradual as lists of topics are refreshed when they become empty. The Research team will evaluate the impact in a few months. [13]

Starting on August 1, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link": Georgian Wikipedia, Kara-Kalpak Wikipedia, Kabyle Wikipedia, Kabardian Wikipedia, Kabiyè Wikipedia, Kikuyu Wikipedia, Kazakh Wikipedia, Khmer Wikipedia, Kannada Wikipedia, Kashmiri Wikipedia, Colognian Wikipedia, Kurdish Wikipedia, Cornish Wikipedia, Cornish Wikipedia.

Mentorship

The Growth team provides dedicated features to establish a mentorship program for newcomers. Every newcomer gets a volunteer mentor who provides encouragement and answers questions. Communities can set up or join this mentorship system by visiting Special:ManageMentors. This mentorship system is configurable by the community at Special:EditGrowthConfig.

More communities have implemented mentorship. A Wikimedia Foundation data scientist will be looking at the impact of Mentorship. We will look at the impact on Spanish and English Wikipedia. [14]

The Growth team will also host a Mentoring new editors on Wikipedia session at Wikimania 2023 in Singapore. Workshop attendees will help brainstorm improvements to Growth’s mentorship features.

Positive reinforcement

We will share more complete experiment analysis for all the three parts of the Positive reinforcement project soon. At the moment, the new Impact module, Leveling up, and Personalized praise are still being A/B tested on the Growth team's pilot wikis.

In the meantime, initial leading indicators for the Personalized praise project have been published. Although this is still a relatively small sample, results seem healthy. They show that Mentors are indeed receiving notifications and clicking through to view their praise-worthy mentees.

Growth contributes to IP Editing migration

The Growth team is currently focusing on IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation. It is a project that touches many different Wikimedia Foundation teams. The Growth team will focus on temporary accounts through two main points:

  • the user experience of a logged-out user, that switches to a temporary account,
  • change Growth-owned extensions and features, so that they work as expected with temporary accounts. [15]

Community Configuration 2.0

We are still in the early planning stage of the Community Configuration 2.0 project:

  • We are gathering internal Wikimedia Foundation teams' needs, so as community feedback. [16]
  • We have started to investigate design improvements. [17]
  • We are also reviewing similar tools that are part of other products. [18]

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Question from Vahidunesi (22:05, 3 August 2023)

How to create a page --Vahidunesi (talk) 22:05, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Vahidunesi - the quick and easy method is to use the article wizard, which will create you a draft that can then be submitted for review. The detailed version is your first article that will take you step by step through creating (unsurprisingly!) your first article. Nosebagbear (talk) 07:08, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).

Administrator changes

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Deletion review for Wenja language

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Wenja language. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:12, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

St Anthony Barabanki

Regarding, delete decision.

I added a whole lot of sourcing to the article. Most of the votes were before my intervention, and were based on English language searches for an institution located in an area where less than 7% speak English.

After I added sources to the article, there were only two further votes.

One asserted lack of significant sources, with no reasoning. The other actually said this: "If there were a lot more examples like the Bhaskar piece I would flip to keep".

I had placed a whole lot of similar media coverage in footnote 8 of the article, which I guess they weren't aware of. I had also inserted a reference to show further media coverage in footnote 7.

Therefore I fail to see a consensus to delete. Nor do I see strong policy based arguments for it. Thanks Jagmanst (talk) 21:48, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Jagmanst, your !vote was definitely the most influential of the AfD and I did consider an NC close. Ultimately, though, after I'd devalued the first two votes (merge and keep) for no policy-backing, and C.Fred's merge !vote is clearly a "if not merge, then delete", there is a clear consensus. There is a presumption that AfD participants keep up to date with the discussion changes. Nosebagbear (talk) 06:54, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AFDs

Hello, Nosebagbear,

I just wanted to thank you for closing some of these AFD discussions that linger around because they got overlooked or had no obvious closure decision. These can be tough discussions to parse and come to a decision on and I appreciate that you are willing to do so because close discussions are much more likely to be contested. Your admin work is much appreciated! Liz Read! Talk! 23:47, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Liz, appreciated! I thought doing them "oh dear, some of these will end up with me at DRV", then realised that I was definitely becoming too staid and concerned of doing proper closes if that was my mindset - had to dive in at that point! Nosebagbear (talk) 06:46, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

copy of the Gracies Dinnertime Theatre page?

It is possible to get a copy of the deleted page put under user:Kjoenth/Gracies_Dinnertime_Theatre ? Kjoenth (talk) 03:29, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kjoenth hi, I've carried out the undelete and move Nosebagbear (talk) 15:15, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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