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Mercedes-Benz Citaro page improvements

Hallo,

at first, I apologize that I undid your edits yesterday several times. I just tried to recover deleted contents, so I ask you to have understanding.

However, I have questions on you. You said that several newly added images on this page were awful. I have added these new images because I thought more necessary images will help people to understand the topic better. I didn’t know that the images must meet certain criteria to appear on the page. Could you explain what the picture requirements are?

So for example, the current title picture is about a Citaro C2 with Euro V standard. The most recent version of Citaro C2 is however with Euro VI standard, so an update of this image is required. I replaced the old one with a picture of BVG Berlin Citaro (with Euro VI), but you still want to keep the old one. Is instead an usage of a title image currently used on other wikipedia pages e.g. German version (de.wikipedia.org) allowed on English page? Or I must search for other images on Wikimedia Commons?

The same problem is also valid for an image of eCitaro. I’m waiting for your answer.

Kind regards Mingyu Tang Technology enthusiast (including buses) Mingyu Tang (talk) 21:11, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Mingyu Tang, No need to apologise, This was entirely my error so my sincere apologies to you for yesterday,

Having compared both revisions today I realised you had actually improved the article and its images and I realised the images were related to the article headings,

My only problem is the infobox image (File:Mercedes C2 Berliner Verkehrsbetriebe .jpg) - That image is not as good as the now current image, I don't see anything wrong with this image,

Thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 21:16, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Hallo Davey2010,

thank you for your fast answer. I understand that you want to improve the quality of title image, BUT the bus model shown in the picture is no longer current. The newest version of Citaro C2 is with Euro VI standard. You can recognize a bump on the back roof of Euro VI version, which is missing on the Euro V version.

So I still have to ask you: Is it ok when I update the title image to that used on German Wikipedia page? The Citaro is shown in the newest model there.

Kind regards Mingyu Tang (talk) 21:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Mingyu Tang, So is File:Mercedes Citaro C2 TANGO n°372 Romarins (cropped).jpg Euro VI ?, I assume so but wanted to double check, The image is from the German Wikipedia but I've cropped it :), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:49, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Hallo Davey2010,

yes, this is the file what I mean. I see that you cropped the image. Nice work!

So do you mean I could update the infobox image to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mercedes_Citaro_C2_TANGO_n%C2%B0372_Romarins_(cropped).jpg? When you permit, then I can carry out this action right now.

Kind regards Mingyu Tang (talk) 08:02, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Mingyu Tang, Ah okay brilliant many thanks for updating the image :),

Have a great day, Thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 09:23, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Davey,

your welcome. I’m always available to improve Wikipedia pages. Have a nice day!

Kind regards Mingyu Tang (talk) 09:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Just between you and me

If someone is storming off in a huff, it is usually not helpful to bully or taunt them on their way out. 28bytes (talk) 17:41, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

28bytes - It would be hypocritical of me to defend my edit summary whilst myself telling people to fuck off in the past in a huff, I was slightly annoyed with that talkpage message but agreed I could've been nicer, Thanks for your message, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 17:53, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

April 2020

A page you created has been nominated for deletion as an attack page, according to section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

Do not create pages that attack, threaten, or disparage their subject or any other entity. Attack pages and files are not tolerated by Wikipedia, and users who create or add such material may be blocked from editing. PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 18:39, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

I haven't created any pages User:PCHS-NJROTC ? .... –Davey2010^Talk 18:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Sorry about that, didn't know Twinkle wouldn't tell you what article it was for. It was for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump (2nd nomination). There was just an MfD for this year's similar joke, and considering it got speedied there I decided to nom the previous two for CSD. PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 18:47, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Sorry but no those 2 AFDs are no where near as bad as the one today, I'm sorry but those 2 are not attack pages. –Davey2010^Talk 18:49, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump (2nd nomination)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump (2nd nomination), a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump (2nd nomination) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump (2nd nomination) during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 18:50, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Sigh. –Davey2010^Talk 18:55, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

List of bus routes in Singapore images

Hello there, I left a talk section on the talk page of List of bus routes in Singapore.

I feel you should replace the image on the top. It looks very untidy with the product placement, and besides it is only partially lush green; whereas the images I put up before you replaced them appear neater, nicer and are fully lush green. Don't you think so?

The ones that I have put up previously:

• File:Go-Ahead SG Citaro (SG1189X).jpg
• File:SBS Transit SG B9TL (SG5569G).jpg
• File:SMRT SG A95 (SG5803E).jpg
• File:Tower Transit SG B9TL (SG5016K).jpg
• 

You may leave the the other image as it is, but please replace the image on top because it's really uncomfortable for users to read. 2679D (talk) 12:43, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Replied on the article talkpage, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 15:01, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

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"Talk page protect"

Yeah, that IP was dealt with...it was their fifth IP address though! :D ——SN54129 12:20, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi User:Serial Number 54129, Wow!, Well the moment I reverted they then popped up under a new one so knew it wasn't going to stop anytime soon lol,

Shame really, All that energy spent on being a moron could've been much better spent on improving the articles here. –Davey2010^Talk 12:24, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Classic! Yeah, dead true  :) thanks for the reverts pal, appreciated. ——SN54129 12:25, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

No worries mate, Glad I was of help somewhere lol :), Take care, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 12:29, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Brisbane Transport Wikipedia Page

Hello, I am curious on why you decided to revert the Brisbane Transport Wikipedia page back to what it was prior to me doing the most recent edit. I spent a lot of time working on this taking most of the photos in the section 'Fleet' so if you could tell me why it would be greatly appreciated. Also if you do reply and I don't respond for a while it is because it is just turning over to Saturday in Australia so I won't be back online for a while. Kind Regards, EamonM25 (talk) 13:54, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi EamonM25, My sincere apologies, I thought this was the revision you were reinstating and for some unknown reason I thought was the latest revision, I hadn't realised you had fixed the mistakes so my sincere apologies,

I've removed the warnings from your talkpage,

Thanks, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 14:11, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

I have just been back over the page and I have noticed that even the work that I have done prior to the major work done today was deleted. ::With the Brisbane City Council, they are well known for doing special liveries for anything related to their buses (advertisements for brands not included). I personally believe that the work I have done makes the Brisbane Transport page more interesting for the viewer as they can come and have a look at some of the history of Brisbane Buses and a lot of special things and features.

Kind Regards,

EamonM25 (talk) 14:25, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi EamonM25, Sorry but the content needs sourcing, Each vehicle and each livery section needs to be sourced to justify that table,

I've pasted the content to User:EamonM25/Brisbane Transport so you can work on this if wanted :),

Thanks, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 14:41, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

I received a message that my sourcing was incorrect and at the moment I am very confused as in my Talk Page you claimed "As I explained to you here you need to source each livery and each vehicle, If there are no sources then I'm afraid it doesn't get added here." I am confused as when you check each image you can see that it says the source with a link to where it came from. Overall I am not calling you anything negative I am simply asking what you specifically mean as I believe I have met the protocols you asked for with my sourcing.\

Kind Regards,

EamonM25 (talk) 11:24, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi EamonM25, Please read:

• Help:Introduction to referencing with Wiki Markup (if you're using Wiki Markup) OR
• Help:Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor (if you're using Visual Editor)

and also read Help:Referencing for beginners, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 11:32, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

I am just asking you before I make the necessary changes.

Would this count: As at February 2018, the fleet consisted of 1,240 buses.

I took that from the ==Fleet== section of the page so if that is made to all liveries will it be acceptable for it to be published?

Also, overall would it have to be the text in the liveries or everything in the tables?

Kind Regards,

EamonM25 (talk) 11:38, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi EamonM25, Unfortunately that cite is now dead so cannot be used,

Inre special livery - Only the livery name needs to be sourced, Stuff like "delivery date and what not shouldn't be there,

Many thanks, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 12:26, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

So overall I just need to reference the table with it's name. Will the sourcing need to be necessary in the sections such as "XXX out of 500" or "NAIDOC Week" if I already have them in the table which contains the Livery Name, Picture and Fleet Number? Overall I did make the sourcing on the names of the buses as there are multiple available. You can check it out in the history section of the article next to edit but I did leave the previous edit you did up there as I do not want to be banned.

EamonM25 (talk) 12:39, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

EamonM25 you're wearing down my patience, Please stop reverting, and Yes the livery name only needs sourcing,

Again you have the article at [[User:EamonM25/Brisbane Transport]] so please work on that and leave this article alone for the time being, Thanks. –Davey2010^Talk 13:01, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

Have fun with your work as I shall now cease to ever edit articles on Wikipedia ever again.

Goodbye — Preceding unsigned comment added by ::::::::::EamonM25 (talk • contribs) 08:25, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi EamonM25, That's a shame but okay, Cheerio. –Davey2010^Talk 10:41, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Honestly don't see you trying to get me banned if I already said I would never do Wikipedia edits again.

EamonM25 (talk) 10:51, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

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Chatham Dockyard

Hi - I am just a bit concerned about all the references you have removed from this article. Somebody has diligently used MacDougall's book to write or expand this article. It is now a bit of a mess with the references removed. If MacDougall is unreliable and the material came from MacDougall then the material should be removed. But is MacDougall really unreliable? Views welcome. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 16:28, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Dormskirk, Unfortunately 2-3 years ago Phillip was using various IPs to add his books across a whole ton of articles, Once they were found out and reverted they resorted to creating an account which got indeffed, Since then I've removed their books across all articles,

I appreciate this could be considered disruptive seeing as their books are okay however I disagree with someone coming along and adding all their books to various articles in an attempt to promote themselves, and whilst Hsq7278 added the book in good faith I still object to any of his work being used here solely because of the promotional attempt,

Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 17:35, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I certainly agree that using IPs to promote his books is unacceptable. I will continue to try and find some alternative sources for the Chatham Dockyard article. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 17:40, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Dormskirk no worries, Many thanks for your work over there I greatly appreciate you taking the time to resource it, Many thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 17:43, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Sourcing Former Programming lists

How do you do that? Some of old programmes on Pop that were listed had a source to back then up, or do you need separate sources for all of them? Luigitehplumber (talk) 16:05, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi User:LTPHarry, Each programme needs to sourced, You're more than welcome to reinstate the list and source accordingly, Cheers, –Davey2010^Talk 16:10, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Basically, what I did a while back isn’t enough then? I found one of the channel’s older websites and it had all the programmes they aired at the time. Luigitehplumber (talk) 17:15, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Luigitehplumber Ah I see, Yep that source is perfect!, You're more than welcome to readd that list back with that source next to those that they appear against, I would do it myself but the yellow background is unbearable!, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 17:23, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

I didn't read your message properly, so sorry if you had to put up that "Disruptive Editing" thingy on my page, although how is it? Luigitehplumber (talk) 12:28, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, No worries, You added the content back without doing what I asked which I considered to be disruptive editing, You not reading my message properly doesn't mean DE doesn't apply .... If an officer pulled you over you wouldn't say "Oh sorry officer I didn't read the speed limit properly" would you ?, You'd quite rightly be given a ticket or a fine and so it's the same here inregards to disruptive editing and the warning. Happy editing, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 12:49, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

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Systemic Shock (book)

Hi there! You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Systemic Shock (book) as a redirect back in 2015. I found one review, and there is one more indicated here: [3]. Do you have any objections if I were to restore the article? BOZ (talk) 15:56, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi BOZ, Many thanks for asking me first I appreciate that - Nope I have no objections you're more than welcome to restore the article :), Many thanks, Take care, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 16:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Bhad Bhabie

Hi Davey2010. Thanks for helping out with the dispute at Talk:Bhad Bhabie. However, I think you have enough editing experience to know to focus on content and policy rather than editors, to not escalate poor behavior of others, and to not make bad faith assumptions of others. Please refactor your comment here, removing And before I'm accused of being a fan. If you would like me to refactor anything I've written, just let me know.

If you look at the article history and stats, you'll see that the major contributions are from SPAs, one indef blocked for sockpuppetry. I'm rather surprised that the article is in rather good shape, at least to the detail that I've reviewed it. I appreciate your efforts in helping to improve the article. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 16:03, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, There was no bad faith on my part - I just felt it was necessary to point out I was not a fan of hers, Thanks. –Davey2010^Talk 16:22, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate the explanation. Thanks. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 16:29, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Hipal/Ronz, I've since amended my comment as it certainly could've been worded better, I simply cannot stand her so didn't want anyone to assume I was bias or that "I like her so this must remain" if that makes sense,

Apologies for that comment anyway, Many thanks, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 16:41, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Mercedes-Benz Citaro page gallery issue

Hi Davey2010,

I’ve seen that you endlessly delete my last edits. The initial purpose of my edit is to add necessary images to improve reading experience of Wikipedia readers. At first, the deletion is ok because it may disturb the layout of “CapaCity” and “Conecto” text pages. But when I see even an extra gallery section gots deleted, I cannot get the point anymore.

As a result, a discussion of this issue is highly recommended. I’m not willing to cause any more edit warring.

Best regards Mingyu Tang (talk) 14:44, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi

The image on the right is how the layout looks to me and so from my perspective I don't see nothing wrong with that layout,

That being said you're more than welcome to add images underneath those 2 sections as 2 generations of the Capacity and Connecto were made but IMHO the 2 right images should continue to remain,

Many thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 14:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi,

thanks for your answer. The only problem is that I don’t understand why my edits where the 2 old images remain to exist, have been removed. ::I expect an explanation.

Kind regards Mingyu Tang (talk) 15:29, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Mingyu Tang, I've reinstated the images but have kept the second generation images down the right side still as I feel having images there is better than not at all,

Many thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 15:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi,

I’ve seen you added the images back. But the image of a 1st generation Conecto is not based on Citaro platform and therefore not related to the topic. This image will be removed.

Kind regards Mingyu Tang (talk) 15:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Mingyu Tang, I know but I still assumed it should be included given there's no Mercedes-Benz CapaCity article but I shan't revert your removal given it wasn't there ot begin with,

Also when replying could you use indents (: < those) please :),

Thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 15:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Eight-million pool

In this edit to the Wikipedia:Eight-million pool, did you really mean to place a guess in the year 3032? JIP | Talk 23:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey JIP, My god that's 1011 years, 9 months and 26 days away!, Wow!, Nope I did indeed mean this century so many thanks for letting me know, Have a great day, Thanks, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 00:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

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Pop (TV)

Hi Dave! Saw this edit summary and was concerned. Seemed out of character. Everything ok? EvergreenFir (talk) 05:30, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi EvergreenFir, Apologies for that, Yep all's fine thanks I was simply frustrated with an editor completely ignoring what I just said to them,

Also inregards to the source being in the header - I would assume not all programmes are in that cite hence why I ask them to be sourced individually - Also current and upcoming programmes need to be sourced individually so I don't see why Former should be treated any different,

Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 09:54, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Fair enough. Individual cites would make it easier to identify bad list entries in the future too. I'll add them now. Glad that things are okay. EvergreenFir (talk) 19:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

EvergreenFir, Many thanks for doing this I appreciate that, I would've done this myself had it not been for the awful background/text colours etc, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 19:32, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Glad to help! EvergreenFir (talk) 19:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Davey and EvergreenFir. You are probably aware that that the US also has a Pop TV channel. But what I am wondering is why both stations don't sell Funko Pop items. I think that company has almost every popular film and TV show covered with their dolls. They would seem to be made for each other :-) Cheers to you both and I hope you have a pleasant and safe weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 20:07, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey MarnetteD, Hope all is well with you and yours :),

Unfortunately I know nothing about the UK channel nor the US one :(, Truth be told I only know CBBC and Cbeebies as CBBC especially that was the channel I grew up watching so sorry I couldn't be of much help :(,

Thanks and I hope you have a great and safe weekend too, Stay safe, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 20:24, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you D. My 25 years of collecting DVDs and Blurays has finally paid off as I have enough to keep me busy through Covid 19, 20 and the first two weeks of 21 :-D Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 20:38, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey MarnetteD, Hahaha love it! :D, I tend to watch films via another method lol, I've not bought a DVD in like 8-12 years now, Anyway I'm glad your years of DVD collecting is paying off - Amazing to think a zombie apocolypse could be happening outside and then you are comfortable at home watching DVDs :) love it!! :), Take care Marnette, –Davey2010^Talk 20:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

When discs caused VHS tapes to be phased out who would have thought they would become as out dated as wax cylinders - HeeHee. I know your alternative is available and takes up waaay less room in the apartment but I kinda keep thinking that when the internet goes down at least I'll still be able to pull these off the shelf to watch. BTW I keep waiting for this scene to happen outside my door. In case you haven't seen it before it is from Herzog's Nosferatu the Vampyre and the townspeople think that der pest will soon be overtaking them all. Now there is a delightful thought to send you into your weekend :-/ More heehees. MarnetteD|Talk 21:11, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Now that's one thing I do muss - VHS tapes!, Mum used to re-record over VHS tapes and some of them would go all fuzzy and weird at times ... man I miss those days!!,

Haha Marnette I actually love your thinking - Yeah if we lose internet atleast you can still watch stuff!, That's cool, Thinking ahead!, love it! :),

Haha oh nice lol, I feel like that film is sort of the entire world right now - trying to avoid everyone etc, all strange times. –Davey2010^Talk 22:36, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Strood

Davey, thanks for your updates to the Strood article at Wikivoyage. We do have a formatting policy for times and dates, which you can read here. Everyone has different formats that they prefer, but this is the policy that has been agreed upon so that readers don't have to sort through different formats in different articles, or for the matter, within an article. Regards, Ground Zero | t 11:59, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey Ground Zero, Ah in that case my apologies, I assumed it was changed based on someones preferences, I didn't realise those sort of abbreviations were agreed upon so apologies for that,

Many thanks for changing those back :),

Stay safe, Thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 12:03, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

No worries. We're glad to have your contributions. I hope you have a safe Easter, Passover or Ramadan (soon) if you celebrate those. Ground Zero | t 12:15, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks I appreciated that, Thanks and too hope you have a safe Easter, Passover or Ramadan too,

Many thanks for reaching out here I appreciate that, Take care and and I hope you and yours are safe and continue to stay safe, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 12:34, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

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• You can now use the articletopic search word on all Wikipedias. It searches articles by topic. [4]
• You can see wiki tools in the new Tools Gallery. [5]
• You can see edits from the Wikimedia Cloud Services in a new dashboard.
• When you use filters on a history page you sometimes don't see any edits. There is a text explaining this now. Before it was just empty. [6]
• There is a new Wikimedia Technical Blog. [7]

Problems

• There was a problem with the Wikidata database last week. Some wikis went down for twenty minutes. Wikidata and other projects showed error messages. Interwiki links were not shown, some tools did not work and other problems. Some of this was fixed quickly. The developers are working on fixing the rest. [8][9][10]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from April 14. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from April 15. It will be on all wikis from April 16 (calendar).

Future changes

• Some graphs have not worked on mobile. This will soon be fixed. [11]
• The article tab on talk pages of redirects links to the target of the redirect. It could link to the redirect page itself instead. You can leave feedback on this.
• For pages using syntax highlighting, the use of the deprecated <source> tag, as well as the use of the deprecated enclose parameter, will add tracking categories.

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15:30, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools

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This early version of the Reply tool automatically signs and indents comments.

The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. The goal of the talk pages project is to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. This project is the result of the Talk pages consultation 2019.

In a future update, the team plans to test a tool for easily linking to another user's name, a rich-text editing option, and other tools.

The team is building a new tool for replying to comments now. This early version can sign and indent comments automatically. Please test the new Reply tool.

• On 31 March 2020, the new reply tool was offered as a Beta Feature editors at four Wikipedias: Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian. If your community also wants early access to the new tool, contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF).
• The team is planning some upcoming changes. Please review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page. The team will test features such as:
  • an easy way to mention another editor ("pinging"),
  • a rich-text visual editing option, and
  • other features identified through user testing or recommended by editors.

To hear more about Editing Team updates, please add your name to the "Get involved" section of the project page. You can also watch these pages: the main project page, Updates, Replying, and User testing.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 15:45, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks

...for your support. We B 2 peas in a pod! They used Zest when they washed my mouth out. Yuck. John from Idegon (talk) 19:48, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi John from Idegon, No worries mate, Looking at the edit history I understood why you became frustrated!, I was made to swallow a teaspoon of this stuff when I was a kid, It was vile and still remember the taste to this day!,

I feel the older I've got the less fucks I give with people and their snowflakery bullshit, Good luck with them John!,

Take care and stay safe, Cheers, –Davey2010^Talk 20:07, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm retired. My job was hotel management. I didn't invest well, so unfortunately retirement doesn't mean not having to work. For me, I only shave on Sunday for church, I make no appointments before noon, and I'll never prepare and serve a praise sandwich again. John from Idegon (talk) 03:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Hayter (lawn mowers)

Watcha Davey, so, a little out of my comfort zone with this one, but an interest nonetheless (I'm a passionate gardener away from this place), I started an article on Hayter, the lawnmower manufacturer, after I bought one of their machines yesterday and I saw that this 75-year-old company, amazingly, didn't have an article. It's been a holder of a Royal Warrant for 60 years, so it's prominence is well established. Being a writer of mechanical articles, I wondered if there was anything you could add? If not, then I just may know what I'm talking about after all. :) Hope you're well. Cassianto^Talk 06:09, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Hey Cass, Genuinely amazed a 75-year old company didn't even have an article especially like you say one that's held a Royal Warrant for 60 years so thank you for another fine creation :),

Unfortunately I don't really have anything else to add but if it helps you've done a fantastic job with it! :)

Yeah all's well here thanks, I hope you and yours are safe and well, Take care, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 10:23, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Katherine McNamara

My bad – that one looked like it had always been ISO access-dates, but when I check it doesn't look like it was. I've "fixed". --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:37, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi IJBall, No worries, Happy editing, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 00:22, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

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Tech News

• The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 4 May 2020.

Recent changes

• The small wiki toolkits is to help smaller wikis that need technical skills. They can learn and share technical skills. [12]
• Over-qualified CSS selectors in Wikimedia skins have been removed. div#content is now .mw-body. div.portal is now .portal. div#footer is now #footer. This is so the skins can use HTML5 elements. If your gadgets or user styles used them you will have to update them. [13]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

• Some things on the wikis might look weird or not work in Internet Explorer 8 in the future. Internet Explorer 8 was replaced in 2011. [14]
• The font in the diffs will change. [15]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 April next week. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 April next week. It will be on all wikis from 30 April next week (calendar).

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18:44, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Downtown MRT line

Hello. Why are you deleting the station list of the DTL, without any prior consensus that we are aware of? The erasure of the list should be decided by consensus, plus also other London underground tube lines and NYC services still have such station lists. Please also do not in the mean time delete the other station lists of other lines.--ZKang123 (talk) 13:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Because we're not a guide nor a directory, That being said ZKang123 could you link the other articles that include similar information from London Underground, Thanks. –Davey2010^Talk 14:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

District Line and Central line each has a section for a list of stations.--ZKang123 (talk) 14:41, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi ZKang123, Ah okay I wasn't aware of those so thanks for pointing those out, Could I ask do we really need distance between each station and total distances ?, IMHO both these aren't really needed, Anyway thanks, regards, –Davey2010^Talk 15:16, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 18, 2020)

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Template:reflist

The template does not need 30em as the template will always open a new column when there is more than 10 citations. Matthew hk (talk) 01:42, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Oh well it can continue to stay seeing as there's no harm being done either way. –Davey2010^Talk 01:47, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

"YouTube not a reliable source?"

What do you mean "not a reliable source?!?!" The links I provided had the shows in the videos! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheDistance111 (talk • contribs) 19:22, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi TheDistance111, We don't link to copyright videos - The uploader is probably not related to the show and therefore probably doesn't own any rights to that video, Even if they are we have no proof either way but as a rule of thumb as I said we never link to copyright videos unless it's from an official channel, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 19:28, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

• Hey Davey2010; if you see this guy pop up again, it's Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Milleniux90210.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 19:47, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

• Hey Ponyo, Okay thanks I'll keep him in mind, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 20:02, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

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Problems

• Some wikis will be on read-only for a few minutes on 5 May. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [16]
• Some wikis will be on read-only for a few minutes on 7 May. This will also affect CentralAuth. This can for example affect global renames, password changes, changing or confirming your email address and logging in to new wikis. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [17]

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• You can get a notification when someone links to a page you created. You can soon turn these notifications off for individual pages. [18]
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16:59, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

"Going retro"

So I use the Wayback Machine and I see that before 2014 Wikipedia used a different font. I noticed that you mentioned something about that on the technical village pump. Is there any way to put something in my vector.css or something to get the pre-2014 look? Even if I joined Wikipedia less than a year ago, I would like to what I call "go retro" and this is one way of doing it. I'm not perfect but I'm almost (talk) 21:42, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey I'm not perfect but I'm almost, I believe my version (User:Davey2010/vector.css) changes the body font (and headings I believe (?)) whereas MediaWiki:Gadget-VectorClassic.css I believe changes alot more things although I don't really know what so you're more than welcome to paste either of those codes into your vector.css (User:I'm not perfect but I'm almost/vector.css) :), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:50, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Just make sure the skin you're using is Vector - Preferences > Click Appearance and then click Vector if it's not the default, if it is the default then ignore this lol. –Davey2010^Talk 21:52, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Southdown

Good Afternoon, Are you able to email me please? (Redacted) Kind regards,

Steve — Preceding unsigned comment added by CharlieGizmo (talk • contribs) 16:29, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Steve, Sorry but I only keep discussions on wiki, Inregards to your images: You can go to Commons:OTRS however one of the images you uploaded was credited to someone else entirely but as I say go there and they might be able to help,

In regards to the logo - The font is much bolder (with a white background) however that's the only change so as such I'm not really seeing a valid reason to replace the logo, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 15:49, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Moving files

I see you're a file mover.. Can you look at my last three uploads? I want to add the image to her article, but it's embarrassing to add it with the spelling error.. - Alexis Jazz 17:50, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey Alexis Jazz,  Done - Moved all 3 and have also updated the links on Leos talkpage although the redirects may not be deleted but it's worth a bash :), Thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 17:58, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! Pings don't arrive when not accompanied by a new signature btw, but I'm here anyway so it doesn't matter. I sometimes link the username in the edit summary when I've messed up a ping, that'll send a notice regardless of a signature being added or not. - Alexis Jazz 18:03, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz Usually if I mess up pings I always re-sign so no idea why I didn't here, Ah okay I didn't think of that will have to remember that in future,

Also slightly random but inregards to [19] - Please don't ever say you're stupid because you're not!, Everyone makes typos but that doesn't mean you're stupid or unable to spell, Sorry I absolutely hate it when people call themselves stupid especially when they're not, FWIW even as a kid I was told never to call myself or anyone stupid but hey idiot, dipshit, moron are all apparently fine lol, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 18:27, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

I found it mostly embarrassing because I rarely make that kind of typo. And also because it is the name of a person. But don't worry, it's just a bit of "zelfspot", not sure how to translate that. Google doesn't know how to translate that either, literally it means "self-mockery". - Alexis Jazz 18:35, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Found it, it's self-deprecation. - Alexis Jazz 18:58, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey Alexis, Ah okay no worries, I did wonder if it was but still felt the need to say that anyway lol, Anyway happy editing :), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 20:28, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. ⌚️ (talk) 22:00, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Darn

I know what you mean (I think), but it was ambiguous. Take a break from all the wiki jibber-jabber and maybe next time tell those who bug you to bugger off instead of fuck off and hopefully avoid all this twaddle. - Alexis Jazz 23:29, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey Alexis Jazz, Meh I only have myself to blame, I'm responsible for my actions and words and both have consequences if I mis-use those,

Unfortunately by that editor filing that report they essentially shot themselves in the foot as they ended up blocked too, Meh it is what it is,

Anyway thanks for your message, Take care and stay safe, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 23:54, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

I wrote an essay on this subject some time back when people freaked out on me for saying exactly the same thing. Like it or not, in this environment it just isn't a good idea no matter how much the person earned it. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:48, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

@Beeblebrox: I think it also depends on where you're coming from. Like, location. An American, an Australian and a Brit walk into a bar. The barkeep yells "Fuck off!" at them for no reason.

The American makes a fist and knocks some of his teeth out in a single punch and walks away.

The Australian says "How rude! You're getting 1 star of Yelp!" and walks away.

The Brit says "Nah, fuck you mate. Pick up your teeth and gimme a pint." - Alexis Jazz 05:29, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Beeblebrox, Thanks for your reply and essay, Certainly easier said than done but in all fairness I don't use it as much as I used to so that's something positive but still I know me using it gives someone a reason to drag me there, Anyway thanks for your reply and essay, Stay safe and take care, Thanks, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 11:08, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the laugh Alexis!, Summed it up all in one! :), –Davey2010^Talk 11:08, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

FYI

Hello D. Sorry about your "time out" :-( About User talk:Zhaofeng Li/reFill#DeadURL that editor has been gone for some time now. Refill is being maintained by others including Cyberpower678. Those of us who have had questions about the various changes in refill have had a difficult time getting any answers or responses to our queries at the WP:VPT. In regards to your specific item I did ask if it could be fixed here User talk:Cyberpower678/Archive 70#If it fits with your work but there was no response. AFAIK it isn't even being worked on so we just have to keep an eye out for when it happens and copy past the "|url-status=dead" over the old one. The one helpful (sort of) thing is that the old one does leave a bright red "this needs fixing message" in the references section of an article. Cheers to you and stay safe. MarnetteD|Talk 01:18, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

@MarnetteD and Cyberpower678: in /backend/refill/formatters/citetemplate.py change template.add('deadurl', 'y') to template.add('url-status', 'dead') and find and replace "deadurl" with "url-status". In /backend/refill/models/citation.py change 'deadurl': bool, to 'url-status': str,.. probably. I literally looked at this for two minutes. We have some better stuff on Dutch Wiktionary, like not bothering with archivedate for archive.org, in fact we don't even have to bother with the non-dead url there if we have an archive.org url. - Alexis Jazz 06:09, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz, I'll make the changes you suggested. —CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:35, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey MarnetteD, Nice to see you here :), Ah okay thanks for letting me know, I think I read somewhere Cyberpower678 was going to start maintaining it or copied the code ? so posted it in the hope someone would still see it and fix it lol, It's just a pain now tho as newbies are going to probably use it, not know what the error means and will completely ignore it which is frustrating, I guess a bot could be created that replaces the old URL status with the new one if one hasn't already been created,

Anyway thanks for your message, Thanks and you stay safe too, Take care, –Davey2010^Talk 11:16, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the info Alexis Jazz. Yep it is a pain. AJ's fix might work. The one thing I forgot to mention is that AFAIK no one who is maintaining the tool has the ZL refill talk page on their watchlist so you might try posting at the VPT and see if you get a response. Cheers to you both. MarnetteD|Talk 16:39, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Those changes will help a lot Cyberpower678 Thanks for working on them. This will make working on bare urls a bit easier won't it Davey :-)MarnetteD|Talk 17:37, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

They will :), Cheers all, –Davey2010^Talk 18:26, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Just dropping in again D as I saw your note to Rich. About two weeks ago I ran a refill fix that used the new dead url tag. I got all excited that we weren't going to have to deal with this but, sadly, since then it has gone back to adding the wrong one. I'm flummoxed about what is going on and I don't know if the boffins are ever going to let us in on things :-) Cheers anyway. MarnetteD|Talk 18:27, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey MarnetteD, How on earth did you find section through all of the stuff below!! (you deserve a medal because if it were me I'd just give up!)

Oh in that case please accept my sincere apologies, I've not used it since then so assumed nothing had been fixed lol,

I unfortunately have 0 understanding with all that so unfortunately cannot help in any way, Thank you for fixing it tho even if it was temporary, Thanks, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 18:50, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

If there is one thing WikiP has taught me it is how to scroll. You should see the callus on my index finger :-) I didn't fix anything I just assumed when I ran that one that used the correct dead tag that those who are maintaining refill had implemented the fix mentioned above. Either it didn't take or they changed it back. Apologies for the confusion in my post. BTW when it comes to boffins this one should be in charge. HeeHee. MarnetteD|Talk 20:34, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Revert

Hi Goodnightmush (or any TPS), Could you revert 103.3.221.39 at Neil Druckmann please as they've vandalised the article, I can't revert as am blocked for another 6 hours or so, Many thanks, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 15:31, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Done! Goodnightmush^Talk 15:34, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks Goodnightmush much appreciated, Stay safe, Thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 15:36, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Block

Hey Cassianto, Many thanks for your comments over at ANI today, As you probably already know I don't at all agree with the block,
I'm genuinely surprised the admin who blocked me felt my "participate or fuck off" comment was grounds for a block yet didn't block an admin who told an editor to fuck off in an hidden comment ....
So if my my comment was hidden and something like "If you don't wanna participate then <!-- fuck off --> leave" is that fine ? ...... no ofcourse it isn't, Hidden or unhidden "fuck off" was still said ? ..... It makes no sense at all ....,
That being said I've only got 2½ hours remaining so won't kick up a fuss over it but I simply feel the block (or atleast the length) was too excessive for the crime although that being said my last block was for the exact same phrase so won't pretend like I'm a saint as I'm no where near,
I shall say no more mainly because I'd rather not give someone an excuse to up the length lol, Thanks again, –Davey2010^Talk 20:00, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Davey, the whole thing is cock-eyed. I once had an admin say "fuck you" to me which went completely unpunished. All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. It's not what you know, it's who... The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 20:07, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey TRM, Couldn't agree more, Really does seem like one rule for one and one for another here but hey ho, Thanks for your comment nice to hear from you, Hope you are yours are well, Take care and stay safe, –Davey2010^Talk 20:22, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, we're all good, likewise, stay safe and don't let the arseholes grind you down. My decision to head into content creation and reviews has paid massive dividends: I can barely remember a feisty moment since I returned after the Arbcom stupidity. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 20:24, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm glad you're all okay, I know a year or 2 ago it was non-stop bullshittery and now it's heaven for you :), Then again compared to the crap you went through I've had an easy ride so far so can't complain, Anyway nice to see you!, Stay safe & take care, –Davey2010^Talk 20:37, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

VauxhallMania1999/Astra1999

Known sockpuppeter is back. This time he replacing not just Vauxhall cars now. User:VauxhallMania1999 --Vauxford (talk) 16:32, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey Vauxford, Funnily enough I kept thinking of him occasionally, I knew .. well had a funny feeling ... he was going to return at some point lol, I'll file another SPI here and at Commons, Thanks for the heads up :), Stay safe & take care, 16:35, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Vauxford - You are absolutely amazing thanks for updating the heading - Saves me the time of having to find his old name lol, Thanks again it's much appreciated :), –Davey2010^Talk 16:36, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

I done a SPI already but I think I done it wrong. [20] --Vauxford (talk) 16:39, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Vauxford, Ah okay no worries, The SPI guys will either merge, redirect or delete it, SPIs should always be done under the sockmasters name (Astra1999), great catch btw!, I've requested a block at Commons, SPIs over there don't make sense to me and I don't have the willpower to figure it all out lol, Thanks, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 16:54, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for helping on Maisie Williams

Sorry I had a bad day yesterday, I am grateful for your wp:accessibility improvement to her filmography section. ~ BOD ~ ^TALK 18:43, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey Bodney, No worries in all fairness I was the one in the wrong so my apologies for yesterday, Thanks, Not many people know but the rowspan stuff actually prevents people using screen readers to fully read the table properly as I believe rowspan jumbles it up for them so I remove them :),

Sorry tho as I realised I started doing all that whilst you were in the middle of doing work yourself, many thanks for your updates and sourcing to that article :),

Take care and stay safe, Thanks, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 18:49, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

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Since you wanted this

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Trillfendi (talk) 14:28, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Davey, could you please not curse at people in this manner? Chris Troutman (talk) 15:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Sure, If people don't call my work shit then I won't react that way Chris, If you spent 2 hours working on an article just to read that comment after how would you react ? ..... Well you'd probably be nicer but still you wouldn't be happy would you?,

I welcome and accept all forms of criticism but telling me my work is shit is not criticism ... it's a blatant attack. –Davey2010^Talk 15:58, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

That's where we differ: I don't take personal offense at a professional criticism of my work, even if that criticism is: "a futile article that still looks like shit". Each editor logically becomes invested in their work because we each care about it. Another editor not valuing the article you "saved" doesn't denigrate your personhood but your name-calling, in violation of WP:NPA, does exactly that to them. Maybe my advice rings hollow because I've been admonished for being mean. That said, I value your contributions to articles. You're just coming off a block for the same sort of thing and repeated instances, I worry, will convince the community to turn against you on the long-term, preventing you from contributing ever again. Please don't give the folks at ANI the stick with which to beat you. I'd much rather you take a break to cool-off from someone else's flippant condemnation than have you blocked for 30 days for saying the wrong things in a moment of anger. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:31, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Well you many not find disparaging comments towards your work offensive, Chris troutman, but others do. We can't all be holier-than-thou, can we? Cassianto^Talk 18:14, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

@Cassianto: You've been blocked twelve times in the past five years, not counting the self-requested ones. Maybe you ought to sit this one out. Also, please fix your preferences so it warns you of broken pings. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Wow, what a sorry piece of work you are! Firstly, I may have missed something, but what does my block log have to do with this thread? I didn't realise a block log disqualifies someone from taking part in discussions. Silly me. Secondly, I'll take part in what I want, where I want and with whom I want. Lastly, my preferences are none of your business. But while we're talking about formatting, maybe you could capitalise your surname, like the rest of the world does, or is this you being "inventive"? I await your next IQ busting comment. Cassianto^Talk 19:07, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Just as I thought. Fuck all in article building. Cassianto^Talk 19:17, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey User:Chris troutman, I guess we really do differ there as yeah I obviously do personally take it as a PA, "Maybe do this better in future" or "maybe don't use X or Y" or "don't use this layout" .... stuff like that I don't have a problem with and as I said I welcome those sorts of comments as those are telling me what I'm maybe doing wrong and what I can improve on .... whereas simply saying "a futile article that still looks like shit" is to me saying efforts done after that are shit still,

I agree and I've seen it happen - People will get up of me but I feel in this specific case I didn't do anything to provoke that persons reactions but still people have and will continue to have their different views on their behaviour as well as mine,

As I said below walking away really is easier said than done but certainly wished I had done it,

Anyway thank you for your reply and for your advice, Take care and stay safe, –Davey2010^Talk 16:46, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Like Chris troutman, I've been admonished too and have lost my cool, and that's not a good thing and not something I'm proud of. But Chris is absolutely right, and the more I think about that "twat" comment the more I'm inclined to chastise myself for not blocking you--but I agree that this was a heated situation. I didn't know you had just gotten blocked, and that does make it worse. So I am going to leave a hopefully completely redundant "only warning" template here, not because you haven't heard enough at the ANI thread, but as a visual reminder to you on your own talk page to stop and think next time. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:39, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Drmies, Not sure if you've read my reply there but when I called her a twat I was calling her stupid/an idiot ..... I genuinely had forgotten it meant something else and I probably forgot that because I've never used it in that context but still she wasn't to know that and neither was ANI, Don't get me wrong I'm not moaning or throwing my dolls out the pram but I do find it unfair someone calls my work shit but when I offend them back I'm the one that gets the stick for it ?,

Then again she did comment on the content and not me as an individual even if it didn't seem that way at that time, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 16:58, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

I read over everything by now, Davey. The difference between calling someone's work shit and insulting the person, that's part of where this is at. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 17:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

What about if the person feels insulted by the insulting comment made about their work? I see no difference. Cassianto^Talk 18:46, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

But that's the point .... telling me my work is shit is basically insulting me? .... Meh whatever, would rather move on from this. –Davey2010^Talk 17:17, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Your work isn't shit, but you know that. And, yes it is an insult to you. -Roxy the effin dog . wooF 19:13, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey Roxy, Thank you that means a lot, In all the years I've been here I don't think I've ever felt like packing up more than I have today, Meh don't see why my enjoyment should be stopped all because someone dislikes my work,

Anyway hope you're well and safe, Take care, Warm Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 19:22, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

I understand how you feel believe me, as there is a great deal of enjoyment/satisfaction to be had here. Nil Carborundum. -Roxy the effin dog . wooF 19:30, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

The difference between "your work is shit" and "you are shit" may seem like a distinction without a difference on the receiving end, but it's how we roll nonetheless, and all y'all know it--it's really the essence of NPA. It's quite imperfect, of course. BTW Davey good work on the article. I won't be closing it now cause I just voted keep. Drmies (talk) 22:30, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey Drmies, I understand, Comment on content and all that, Just wish I hadn't rose to it like the way I did,

Anyway thank you very much I appreciate that a lot, Stay safe and take care Doc, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 22:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Just an FYI

I made a comment on the ANI about how quickly these things can degenerate. Look at this [[21]], this is hardly a neutral accounting of the situation but it was similar. I applaud you didn't take the path of resistance but when I see stuff like this my advice, go for the hills. It just isn't worth it no matter how we perceive that other editor. I also don't mean to be preachy or seem all boo hoo cause people make mistakes, yours is recoverable :) Unbroken Chain (talk) 16:22, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Unbroken Chain, Unfortunately gender bias did keep popping up on the project a few years ago and agree it can degenerate things,

FWIW I did explain at ANI that unfortunately I did forgot that word too means something else, I've never used it in that way but now the heading of that report makes sense,

Walking away when things get heated really is easier said than done especially when you're me but I've come to learnt somethings are better left unsaid (which is why I've barely commented there),

Anyway thanks for your advice and for popping over,

Take care and stay safe :), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 16:32, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

May 2020

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. This as an FYI, that is, for your information for next time. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:40, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

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20:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

NPA

Hi Davey. I was quite disheartened to check my watchlist here and see an ANI section about you, and even more so when I read the comments you made that brought you there. I understand that having one's work insulted can be emotionally tiring, and I have had it happen to myself on this project. The best advice possible is to keep it cool, and there are many avenues to seek recourse for problems which, in the aforelinked case, were resolved successfully. However, when you combat incivility with incivility, the chances of it turning positive in the long run go straight down, and you're left in the situation you're currently in. I would urge you to apologize, seek reconciliation for the relatively insignificant disagreement you had that became a much larger one when incivility became involved, and don't make this a hill to die on. I've never seen any issues of this sort with your contributions on the Simple English Wikipedia, where nearly all of my interaction with you is, and I sincerely hope it remains that way. If you need anyone to talk to, I'm always available, and my contact info is on my user page. Warm regards, Vermont (talk) 04:35, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Vermont, I truly do wish I reported it at ANI and walked away that would've been my best course of action, I obviously 110% regret using that word,

I'm someone who apologises for every mistake I make even IRL .... so you can probably imagine how many times I did want to apologise ..... but for me personally I won't apologise to someone who labelled my work shit, I know they commented on content and not me as an individual but I still took it personally and it did at the time felt like it was a comment on me, In short I see it as incivility met incivility.

To be fair there were many replies I wanted to make there but having written them ... I thought about it and didn't think it was worth it and then closed the tab so I personally don't see this as a hill to die on (I would if I kept replying and kept digging a hole),

Ofcourse it will :), All of this doesn't mean I'm going to start using that word more etc etc, Nothing's changed in how I communicate or how I edit, Well it has inregards to that word and how I deal with that but you know what I mean,

Anyway that's the final reply I'll make on this as would rather not break the IBAN,

Take care Vermont and I look forward to contributing with you here and on Simple :), Take care and stay safe. –Davey2010^Talk 11:39, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Apologies

TYhat was the right thing to do even if it could be considered a breach of the ban. If any admin was to sanction that, you should wear that block as a badge of pride. I have one indef block on my record and it was for "harrassment", that harassment was a heartfelt apology for my actions. It was the right thing to do then and was the right thing for you to do now. I'd be proud to call you my friend, you've shown a strength of character that I admire and respect. I don't like the words you used that started it all but in the end you took responsibility like a reasonable adult. Kudos. Unbroken Chain (talk) 13:22, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Unbroken Chain, Thank you I appreciate that a lot, At that moment in time it's easy to think you're right and whatnot ... but when you take a step away, process everything that's gone on, reflect on it and read the thread you begin to realise you weren't right even if you thought you were,

Wikipedia is a learning curve for everyone and we make stupid mistakes and learn from them,

It's a shame it took me a while but hey late's always better than never! :),

Personally for apologies I don't believe blocks should ever be issued but If I'm blocked I'm blocked, I felt apologising and being true to myself and being true to everyone on that board is worth any block,

I never expected any thanks nor any messages for it but I greatly appreciate those and greatly appreciate your kind and thougtful message so thank you again,

Stay safe and take care, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 13:36, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

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[27] and [28]. The group of IPs already been blocked but they aren't permanent. Done it on the Peugeot 307, Vauxhall Astra, Opel Corsa, Opel Vectra and Opel Zafira.

I had to revert more edits of him self-replacing photos (mostly mines) with his own. Now it seem he doing a new tactic by creating a new account Commons or use the existing pictures from his blocked account and then use some IP address to do the edits. --Vauxford (talk) 23:39, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Vauxford, This is why all of his images need to be wiped off of Commons but ofcourse that doesn't happen so we're stuck with this bs. –Davey2010^Talk 00:00, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hey Andrewhistory, Thanks so much!, You're welcome, Happy editing :), –Davey2010^Talk 16:53, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

hey can you please make userboxes about roman empeors

hey can you please make userboxes about roman empeors, i would really like it if there was userboxes like:

ex: This user knows alot about agustus(or any other empeor) --HISTORIAN (talk) 14:48, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Andrewhistory, Apologies for the late reply, I see you've created the userbox - I've wikilinked Roam Empire and have changed the link colour to white - If you dislike it you're more than welcome to change it or revert entirely :),

Also whenever you create userboxes you have to remember to keep them in your userspace only (ie User:Andrewhistory/), Happy editing, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 16:56, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

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Keira Knightley

Have you seen what you are undoing? I didn’t make the initial edit (Carlosdantasohyeah made it on the 12th about her surname change). Here’s the source they added that verifies it. A subsequent ip editor removed this name change (while, strangely enough, keeping the source that backs up the name change). I undid their change twice having first explained the name change is “registered”. Chris PTR (talk) 20:40, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Ah my apologies Chris PTR, The point still stands that someone should go to the talkpage due to the fact there's been repeated back and fourth warring over it, Also editors may have a problem with the source which may be excluded as per WP:BLPPRIVACY, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 20:50, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

No worries. I wasn’t sure about the initial edit myself. Only when I checked the source (being from the UK government) did I gather it was legit. Not sure this needs to go to the talk page though, surely a registered name change is not a contentious issue? It’s one ip editor who looks like a nuisance. Chris PTR (talk) 20:58, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hi Davey2010 — regarding this edit of yours, please see my message here, which it looks like Serial may not have seen/had a chance to reply to yet. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 05:23, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sdkb, Unless the thread is reopened no one's going to comment on it as obviously the top and below state "The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion." and it's common practice to never comment on closed discussions....,

You pinged 2 admins and 1 editor (Prax isn't an admin) on the 18th and 5 days on none of those people commented and neither did anyone else so therefore it was pointless to further leave it there when no one's going to comment on it,

You're more than welcome to repost at ANI simply asking can you do X or Y but the archived thread will stay archived, Many thanks, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 10:19, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, and thanks for taking a look at Maisie Williams. Earwig's Copyvio tool was showing 78.8% match with this, which may well be because the text was lifted from Wikipedia. Some of the similarities are titles etc, but there are also some phrases like "a tomboyish young girl from a noble family, in the HBO fantasy drama television series Game of Thrones" which have probably been copied one way or the other. Let me know if you need any other info, or if you're happy there's nothing that would prevent the article passing a GA review. Regards, 20:07, 27 May 2020 (UTC) Not sure why my name wasn't in the signature, trying again. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi BennyOnTheLoose, No worries, Many thanks for adding that and apologies for removing it - As I said one tool worked (and reported nothing was a problem) and the other had some sort of error at the time, The 2nd tool does indeed say 78% and whilst it could be nothing I'd obviously rather leave that to those who deal with copyvios so I've reverted my removal :),

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This week's article for improvement (week 23, 2020)

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• There is a new beta version of the Wikimedia Commons app for Android. It has a new zoom function when you look at images. It can also suggest places when you upload geotagged photos. [38]

Problems

• There was a problem with the Commons database on 27 May. Commons could not be edited for eight minutes. Because of this problem the database was moved. This caused another short read-only time on 29 May. [39][40][41]
• The Vector skin had a problem where you couldn't add links to the article in other languages. You couldn't see the section if there were no links to other languages already. It also removed content translation links and links to language settings. This has now been fixed. [42]

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NAT Group page

Hi @Davey2010:,

It has been clear to me that my edit on the NAT Group wikipedia page keeps being reverted? I feel that you reverting it is completely unnessecary and that my edits have been beneficial to the page as a whole - with updated logos, images and route information making it 10x more beneficial to NAT customers and bus enthusiasts.

If you have an issue, please tell me.

Thanks Zackanthxny (talk) 21:17, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi, The company is still trading under NAT Group - if rebranding is happening then the page should be updated once this has fully happened, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:18, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Oh, right. Sorry @Davey2010: but - one thing. I have updated the page with all correct routes and depot information? Would it be okay if I put my information back up but referred to as NAT instead of AdventureTravel?

Thanks

Zackanthxny (talk) 21:24, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Zackanthxny, Sure, that would be fine :), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:25, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

@Davey2020: page has been updated.

Zackanthxny (talk) 21:42, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Zackanthxny, Once the company has been rebranded you're absolutely more than welcome to re-update the page :), I apologise for the warnings which I've now removed too, Happy editing! :), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:44, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Removal of (albeit WP:NOTSTATS possibly violating) content

I'm curious as to why you removed some information from the Mount Ommaney Shopping Centre bus station and Indooroopilly bus station route tables without a clear explanation. Granted, the reason could simply be that it violated WP:NOTSTATS and is therefore non-encyclopedic, or broke some other policy, but then why do Queensland Rail railway station articles also list express patterns in a similar way? Would they also need their express pattern removed, or is it simply because that they cover different types of transport? (I will not reinstate the removed content without any consensus here first.) Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). This message was left at 05:07, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Because we're not a guide, Direction and Type (Rocket, City Precincts, BUZ) are all meaningless to non-Australian readers and I see no reason why such information would ever need to be included, Please remember we're an English Encyclopedia nota an Australian one, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 11:26, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Having a look at the List of bus routes in London, would you say that the information included there would set the precedent as to what to include here? That includes the start, end and 24 hour operation notes, and also a definition of service types by route prefix. Considering possible WP:NOTSTATS vios, would you argue that not noting the days a route operates on nor its type would make the list any less encyclopedic, considering the latter is techincally done on the bus routes in London page? Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). This message was left at 16:54, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

I would so you're more than welcome to add operational hours, Personally I don't agree with it but I can hardly say no to that when it's been accepted on another article so you're more than welcome to operational to the tables, cheers, –Davey2010^Talk 17:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

So:

• Which day it operates and type is returning, and
• Express patterns are not returning, given that they aren't officially documented, nor are collapsible tables, given accessibility reasons.

Should be an okay compromise? Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). This message was left at 17:06, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

If reliably sourced then which days they operate is fine but direction and type are still not okay, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 18:11, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Is this because TfL's route types are sourced? Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). This message was left at 18:16, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

The 24hour operation are all sourced although "Also runs throughout Friday and Saturday night" isn't but that's that article, Days and nights of operation should be sourced, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 18:19, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

By setting the linked TransLink website to a particular date you can prove how dates are affected, so that might be a point for verifiability (there isn't anything rejecting inaccessible sources, let alone this one). Also, there is a linked PDF timetable which documents the route type (for example, here then click Printable timetables). Maybe that might make it easily sourced, given that the London bus routes timetable actually provides no sources for service types (albeit those are by route prefix...). Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). This message was left at 18:26, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

@Davey2010: Okay, so if the List of London bus routes article includes types, what is your argument against it here? Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). This message was left at 21:26, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Types aren't next to the routes - there's only stating what the letter means next to the number. I've made my arguement clearly as I can both in edit summaries and here and I'm not going to repeat myself. –Davey2010^Talk 21:43, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, you didn't make that particularly clear. In that case, I'll rewrite the table tomorrow. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). This message was left at 21:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

"Because we're not a guide, Direction and Type (Rocket, City Precincts, BUZ) are all meaningless to non-Australian readers" and "If reliably sourced then which days they operate is fine but direction and type are still not okay," - Which of these did you not understand ?, I stated to you twice (and now for the third time) that Direction and type should not be in tables however you can add operation days. –Davey2010^Talk 22:06, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm going to go get a third opinion on this, if that's okay? Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). This message was left at 22:26, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Knock yourself out. –Davey2010^Talk 22:29, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

3O Response: So far as the actual content, I do agree that the full listing is probably a bit excessive for an encyclopedia article, though some type of summary should be fine. That being said, though, there seems to be a bit of cart before horse here, as the article includes no independent reference material, which leads me to wonder if it's notable at all. It may be that the information needs to be merged to a parent. If there is a substantial amount of high-quality independent source material available about the station, see what it indicates is particularly significant about it, follow those sources' lead, and cite them in the article. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 04:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC) Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 04:22, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

And with opinion prevailing that the tables as they were before were not suitable, that, it's time for me to drop the stick and let this die. I guess if the articles themselves aren't as notable as I thought, then getting petty over tables and their contents isn't really worth it. And if bad blood was sown between us, then I sincerely apologise for that, and hope that we'll continue to edit without animosity into the future. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). This message was left at 06:58, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your helpful and valued help Seraphimblade, There's a grey area when it comes to route service tables, The general consensus from what I can gather is timetables are fine although better sources should be used if they can, Anyway thanks again for your help and comments - much appreciated :), Happy editing, Thanks, Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 17:10, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 24, 2020)

Anna Holmlund in 2015 at the FIS Ski Cross World Cup 2015 Finals Hello, Davey2010. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Anna Holmlund Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Invention • Abu Nuwas Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 8 June 2020 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI •

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• Some articles have tables that can be sorted in different ways. For example a list of countries can be sorted alphabetically but you can click on the size column to sort them by size. If you clicked on the column a second time it would sort the countries from the bottom to the top instead. A third click will now take you back to the original sorting. [44]
• Self-closed tags now work as in the HTML5 specifications. This means you should stop using some of them. <b/> is an example of a self-closed tag that won't work. area, base, br, col, embed, hr, img, input, keygen, link, meta, param, source, track, wbr can be self-closed. Pages with tags that should not be self-closed have been listed in a tracking category since 2016. They will be listed in Special:LintErrors/self-closed-tag. This doesn't affect <references /> or <ref />. [45]
• There is a banner called WikidataPageBanner. It is for example used by the Wikivoyages, Wikimedia Russia and the Catalan, Basque, Galician and Turkish Wikipedias. It will now been seen by mobile visitors too. Before this it was only seen on desktop. The wikis should update instructions on MediaWiki:Sitenotice so that editors know to test and style for mobile too. [46][47]

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• You can now edit MassMessage descriptions through the API. This is useful for tools and gadgets. [48]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 June. It will be on all wikis from 11 June (calendar).

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Invite to Revive WikiProject:Shopping Centers!

Hey there, Davey2010! I'm Windyshadow32, a new member of the sadly inactive Wikiproject Shopping Centers. I am trying to revive this project to highlight the unique stories of malls across the country and the world especially as we lose more and more of them. Undoubtedly, we will lose shopping malls due to the challenges we face at this moment. Your account was listed as involved in the project, and I would like to know if you would like to help revive it! I can't take on this massive project without you! Please let me know if you'd be willing to help; I really appreciate it!

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Can you help me to create a signature name tag

Hi, Davey2010. I am kinda impressed by your colourful name tag, wonder if you can help me to create one or teach me how to do it. Take care, Bye. Reply soon.

Hi Hypersonic man 11, Thanks, Nice to know someone likes it lol,

This is the template for it

1. –[[User:Hypersonic man 11|<span style="color:red;">'''Hypersonic man'''</span><span style="color: black;">'''11'''</span>]]^{[[User talk:Hypersonic man 11|<span style="color:purple;">'''Talk'''</span>]]}
2. or –[[User:Hypersonic man 11|<span style="color:red;">'''Hypersonic'''</span> <span style="color:Green;">'''man'''</span><span style="color: black;">'''11'''</span>]]^{[[User talk:Hypersonic man 11|<span style="color:purple;">'''Talk'''</span>]]}

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and Signature 2 looks like –Hypersonic man11^Talk (11 is in a different colour)

Some editors dislike people using their signature so it's always best to be unique and different :),

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Please Check Vinod Kumar Dwivedi Wikipedia Page.

Vinod Kumar Dwivedi Wikipedia Page is not useful because in India more than one lakh Indian classical vocalist, so we can not create all persons Wikipedia page, so please delete this Wikipedia. लाल सिंह चड्डा (talk) 14:24, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello लाल सिंह चड्डा, Unfortunately you cannot speedy delete this article, You would need to list it for deletion at WP:AFD, If you have a valid reason for deletion I can do this for you, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 14:44, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Sophie Turner

Did you look at the second source? That clearly shows she's pregnant. Isn't that confirmation? The third is also on a different topic, which she discusses in an interview. Any objections to re-adding that bit at least, regardless of the rest?Mcc1789 (talk) 14:35, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Hey Mcc1789, My apologies I didn't, Yup you can't get any more confirmation than a picture of her with a baby bump!, I've self reverted, Apologies again, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 14:42, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for that.Mcc1789 (talk) 15:40, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

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William Mariner was an Englishman who lived in Tonga from 29 November 1806 to (probably) 8 November 1810. He later published Tonga Islands, an account of his experiences that is now one of the major sources of information on Tonga before it was significantly influenced by European culture and Christianity. Pictured is Mariner in Tongan attire. Hello, Davey2010. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: William Mariner (writer) Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Ship canal • Anna Holmlund Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 22 June 2020 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI •

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Afraid the copyright template is a "Please do not remove this tag without discussion" one, there, we should find a consensus on the talk page that this text probably isn't a copyright violation, and leave it flagged in the mean time. I've already written a few thoughts there about why this text has almost certainly been copied from somewhere, as the captions written at the same time by the same IP were full of basic grammar and spelling errors, while the synopses were all written in a very fluid and funny manner. Whether this was from the back of a DVD or from a public domain website (or other Wikipedia page?) is something we need to make a call on.

Assuming good faith is handled differently for potential copyright issues. We should assume that the original IP meant well and was trying to improve the article with this text, eleven years ago, but we shouldn't assume that this extended to them correctly understanding the copyright of pasting content from another website. --Lord Belbury (talk) 11:48, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Lord Belbury, Just replied over there, I'm very surprised it's remained there for so long!, Exactly they probably meant well just didn't know the whole copyright thing, Thanks again for your eagle-eyedness (if that's a word), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 13:31, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Meghan Trainor/archive2

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notes 2

We Dance On - source beat - cite doesn't mention genre - check arc

N-Dubz singles

Ok I won't remove those genres for now, I don't want to start an edit war. However, I hope it'll be ok if I manage to replace those unsourced genres with sourced ones. --Blueberry72 (talk) 20:37, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi Blueberry72, Generally speaking the genres should stay sourced or not - I'm aware of there being edit wars with these but so far there's been no edit wars with these and it's not like IPs are changing these on a daily basis so for the time being I'm not seeing a reason to replace or remove them,

There's plenty of articles here with the genres unsourced so there doesn't look to be a consensus to have these sourced unless absolutely necessary, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 20:44, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

I would like to point out that unsourced genres often stay in the infobox only because the page is rarely visited or simply because they were accepted passively, but they constitute an original research. Claims of music critics are worth more than the opinion of an user. Blueberry72 (talk) 21:10, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Fair point, My sort of assumption was that news sources could be wrong too however at the end of the day sourced is better than not. Thanks –Davey2010^Talk 00:19, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Don't worry, I usually cite only professional reviews for genres. Thanks. Blueberry72 (talk) 10:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Brilliant, many thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 16:30, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

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On 16 March 2020, the 50 millionth edit was made using the visual editor on desktop.

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not a stone

a boomerang --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:34, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Meh, –Davey2010^Talk 15:37, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

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Cafe Rouge

Please let me know why you reverted my edit to the Cafe Rouge article. You left no edit summary. Thanks. Paul W (talk) 12:11, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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Removing report at UAA

Hello. I noticed that you reverted one of my edits to UAA. I added a new report there, but also removed some previous reports that were already declined but still remained there for some more hours. Did you check the diff? LSGH (talk) (contributions) 17:49, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi LSGH, You removed "declined" reports whilst reporting another user with the edit summary "Adding report for KarlMarxTD" ..... You made no mention of removing declined reports .... I (nor {{u|Praxidicae)) and anyone else) can not read your mind.

Please leave the "declined-removals" to the admins - I've been here coming on 10 years and even I don't do work such as that (because I'm not an admin), Stick to reporting and leave the removals to admins.

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Just leave the removals to the bot (User:HBC AIV helperbot5). It's much more hardworking than the admins. Bishonen | tålk 00:22, 5 July 2020 (UTC).

I once saw someone remove such kind of reports because they were already "seen by too many eyes", so I thought it was fine to do so. I chose to remove those at the same time that I reported another user because I do not want to do multiple edits and flood the revision history. The reports that I tried to remove are still there, while others continue to add reports. I don't think the bot removes reports that have been declined, but it does remove those that have been acted on. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 03:43, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

LSGH then raise whatever issue there might be with the bot to the bots owner, 2 edits is not flooding the history. Happy editing. –Davey2010^Talk 09:35, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

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Featured list

Hi Dave! I want write a featured lists but I think I need HELP! before it I wrote two featured lists, but all of them was translated. Can you help me? (we spoke last day. you remember me?) Goth Girl (talk) 15:15, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey Goth Girl, Sorry I've never wrote FLs or FAs before so your best bet is going to WP:FL and hopefully finding someone who can help, Sorry I couldn't of been of any help, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 15:44, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

OK, thanks:) Goth Girl (talk) 15:54, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

No worries, Happy editing! :), –Davey2010^Talk 16:05, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

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Trebević web page

Dear Davey2010,

Please free to add official web site with national domain name for our Natural resourt - Trebević. Here is web site: www.trebevic.ba (.ba is national domain).

Your wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebevi%C4%87

Our mission is to give help people to get around when they are in forest.

Best regards, Armin Talic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Armin.talic (talk • contribs) 12:47, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi Armin.talic, It would be best to go to the talkpage of that article and explain why that link should be included, The editor who reverted you is an experienced admin so it wouldn't be advisable to revert them, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 12:52, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

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Edit on Plaxton President

@Davey2010: Could you please tell me why you got rid of my section on the bus fire in Kingston on the Plaxton President bus type page? --Exodus662 (talk) 07:48, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Exodus662 I explained why I reverted you when I reverted you? ..... But again the bus in question wasn't a Plaxton President - Your source depicts another bus as does multiple other sources, Thanks. –Davey2010^Talk 11:39, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

@Davey2010: Thank you for letting me know. Do you, by any chance, know what type of bus it was? --Exodus662 (talk) 11:45, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

No worries Exodus662, It's a Transbus ALX400 bodied Transbus Trident 2 :), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 11:54, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

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Messages to my talk page

I have told you 3 times to not leave messages to my talk page, Is that hard to understand???. I dont want to hear anyting from you. -->Typ932 ^T·C 20:27, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

It's pretty damn simple my friend - Don't edit war and don't call me an asshsole and you won't recieve warnings from me!. Cheerio. –Davey2010^Talk 20:32, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Its pretty simple dont revert my edits if there is no need, and there is nothing against wikipedia guidelines. Get concensus for your unneeded edits. And stop acting like wikipedia police here, yo are not my dad who can told to me what I can do here and what not. You are the edit warring here, I just restored the old good look for article and you started right away reverting those articles, without any concensus or valid reasons. -->Typ932 ^T·C 20:38, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

I feel like I'm getting deja vu here .... I'm sure we had this discussion just last year and I'm sure you were told to pack it in!, We're going around in circles and I'm getting rather dizzy now so you go toodle off away from my talkpage and we can let someone deal with the AN3 report, Cheerio. –Davey2010^Talk 20:48, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Archive at Talk:Hirohiko Araki

Hello, I think you forgot to add an archive link from the talk page at Talk:Hirohiko Araki. — Goszei (talk) 23:22, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey Goszei, Many thanks - I did forget, I've added the link now :), Thanks for letting me know much appreciated!, Happy editing, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 00:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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For moving my reply at the Allders talk page; I'd somehow failed to notice I was replying on an archive page! Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 14:33, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey Hassocks5489, No worries, Originally I was going to revert but figured moving was far more helpful! :), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 14:46, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

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Branded "IBAN violation"

Another case of branding something as "IBAN violation" because they didn't get their way with it even after being told by an admin that it was not IBAN violation. Don't know what's up with these folks but this user and Typ932 have much in common with their behaviour. U¹ _quattro TALK 18:30, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi U1Quattro, I had spoke to Floq here and they said an ANI report should be done which he'd do next week, Unfortunately I'm hopeless when it comes to ANI reports and would rather leave it to someone who can word things better than me and who'd be more detailed than me so sorry I couldn't be of any help,

Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 18:37, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

In my opinion WP:ANI advice applies here. As it states that admins are not one's user rights to be used however one wants. U¹ _quattro TALK 19:23, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

He's IBANNED with you so therefore he's broke that IBAN and should IMHO be blocked for it, Oh well, Happy editing. –Davey2010^Talk 20:09, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

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WikiProject Horror Newsletter - July 2020

The WikiProject Horror Newsletter The November 2024 Issue / July 2020 Newly nominated content Parasite Eve (film) Shaun of the Dead World War Z (film) Billy (Black Christmas) Cat People (1942 film) What Comes After (The Walking Dead) Innsmouth no Yakata List of The Last of Us Part II characters Article of the month The Brute Man The Brute Man is a 1946 American horror film starring Rondo Hatton as the Creeper, a murderer seeking revenge against the people he holds responsible for the disfigurement of his face. Quotes “Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and caldron bubble.” Macbeth (William Shakespeare). Sent by Path slopu on behalf of WikiProject Horror. Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. Collaboration of the Month The current Collaboration of the Month has been None. The next collaboration is due for selection on November 30, 2024, so nominate an article and/or vote on a current nomination. Announcements and open tasks WikiProject Horror Announcements and open tasks → Please place the {{WikiProject Horror}} banner in appropriate article talk pages! Current Featured Article candidates (67 achieved): None Current Good Article candidates (442 achieved): None WikiProject Horror Peer Reviews: None Article alerts: Please check here for up-to-date information on horror-related article alerts. Cleanup listing: Please check here for a list of horror-related articles that may require some form of work done on them. The Collaboration of the Month is currently inactive. Nominations for Coordinator positions are currently ongoing. Feel free to add your name and comments. To stop receiving this newsletter, please remove your username (Davey2010) from the Delivery list.

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Tech News: 2020-30

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Recent changes

• A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. The mobile main page special casing stopped working 14 July. 60 wikis now have main pages that don't work well on mobile. You can see which ones, how to fix it and how to get help in Phabricator. This is the same problem that was reported in Tech News 2020/24 and 2020/26.

Problems

• There is a problem with the interlanguage links. The interlanguage links are the links that help you find a specific page in a different language. The sorting is broken. The developers are working on a solution. [70]
• Some users keep getting the notifications for the same event. Some of these are old events. [71]
• Some users have trouble logging in. This is probably a browser cookie problem. The developers are working on understanding the problem. If you have trouble logging in you can see the details on Phabricator. [72]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 July. It will be on all wikis from 23 July (calendar).

Future changes

• There is a Printable version link. This will disappear. That is because web browsers today can create a printable version or show how it will look in print anyway. [73]

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Class 323

Hello, it seems you are interested in improving the images on the page British Rail Class 323. As looking a the edit history there seems to be some conflict between a few editors on this topic I have created a discussion on the talk page which you might be interested in. Thanks! Python megapixel (talk) 16:44, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done - resolved on talkpage –Davey2010^Talk 17:00, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 31, 2020)

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Please do not vandalise the Columbia Transportation page.

Hello, Your recent four edits to the Columbia Transportation constitute vandalism. Please stop this now, as it can result in a block. Best, MTATransitFan (Questions? Comments? Just want to chat? Click here) 00:43, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

MTATransitFan, Go read WP:Vandalism and once you're finished with that - Go read WP:NOTTRAVELGUIDE. –Davey2010^Talk 01:07, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Davey2010 how is this a travel guide?? Also, I know what vandalism is. You removed almost the entire page. If the roster is a "travel guide" then the entire MTA Regional Bus Operations fleet is a travel guide. Please do not edit the page anymore. I will bring an admin in if this continues.

A) Like I said in my edit summary we list fleetlists as prose - not gigantic tables, B) We never include service hours here because they vary from service to service and such things are seen as NOTBUSGUIDE (and plus once outdated they become useless).

Thanks. –Davey2010^Talk 01:17, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Davey2010 I left you a message on Talk: Columbia Transportation. Let's carry on there.

Will take a look, Cheers. –Davey2010^Talk 11:51, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-31

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Recent changes

• The Starter kit is now available for wiki communities. This page lists technical resources, tools, and recommendations. These are essential to operate a wiki project. This is mostly useful for smaller wikis where the community has limited experience with this. [74]
• The first features of the Desktop Improvements project are available for logged-in users on all wikis. In order to use them, uncheck Use Legacy Vector in your local or global preferences in section Skin preferences. More improvements are planned. Feedback is welcome.
• On multiple wikis, a UTCLiveClock gadget is available. For wikis that import the gadget directly from mediawiki.org, end users can now choose a different timezone to show instead of UTC.

Problems

• The deployment train for MediaWiki has been blocked this week. [75][76]
• Translation Notification Bot was sending the same message multiple times to every translator. This has been fixed. [77]
• Some users were receiving the same notification multiple times. This has been fixed. [78]

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 28. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from July 29. It will be on all wikis from JUly 30 (calendar).

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This week's article for improvement (week 32, 2020)

The potato (Solanum tuberosum) is an example of a New World crop, a crop native to the New World (mostly the Americas) before 1492 CE and not found anywhere else at that time. Hello, Davey2010. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: New World crops Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Double standard • Teenage rebellion Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 3 August 2020 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI •

Notice of ANI that mentions you in passing

Greetings, FYI I filed a request at WP:ANI titled "CIR-based community-imposed site ban re: RTG". In providing a basis for my request I mentioned you and your prior dealings with this editor. Your input at ANI is optional, i.e., invited but not specifically requested. Thanks for reading. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 12:57, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-32

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Problems

• All queries to the Wikidata Query Service failed between 17:50 and 17:59 UTC on Thursday 23 July. Some queries failed during a longer period. [79]
• Interlanguage links were ordered incorrectly for the past few weeks. This problem was also mentioned in Tech News two weeks ago. The problem is now fixed. [80]
• There is a problem with the global preferences for the "Use Legacy Vector" option. Developers are working on fixing it. [81]
• A bug in the Wikibase extension had disabled the "move" and "create" types of protection in the main (Gallery) namespace on Wikimedia Commons. New protections could not be added, and existing protections were not enforced, allowing some page moves and page creations that should not have been possible. This has now been fixed. [82]

Changes later this week

• The video player will change to be simpler and more modern. This week, the current beta feature will become the video player for everyone on most non-Wikipedia wikis. The old player will be removed. [83]
• Users' global.js and global.css pages will now also be loaded on the mobile site. You can read documentation for how to avoid applying styles to the mobile skin. [84]
• In the MonoBook skin, the searchGoButton identifier is now searchButton. This may affect CSS and JS gadgets. Migration instructions can be found in T255953. This was previously mentioned in issue 27.
• Bot operators can use Pywikibot to regularly archive discussions. The behavior when the bot uses counter to prevent large archives was changed. [85]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 4. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from August 5. It will be on all wikis from August 6 (calendar).

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Isuzu Giga

I disagree with the reinstating of the article. It is still of poor quality and only has two sources which are manufacturer sources. It is better off as a redirect. U¹ _quattro TALK 14:31, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

I disagree, It needs to be updated and improved sure however I have no knowledge of the truck nor do I speak Japanese. It's better off as an article. –Davey2010^Talk 14:43, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Then the disagreement is not valid as you have not provided any reason based on which the article should stay. You don't know about the subject neither the sources you have cited are reliable third party sources. U¹ _quattro TALK 15:55, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Like I said to you Yes the article still needs major improvements however you nominated the article on the basis of "An article with no source whatsoever" - The article has since been sourced so therefore you have no valid reason to reinstate the redirect. Also only one person participated in that AFD and did not provide any reason to redirect other than "Redirect: to Isuzu_Motors#Current_commercial_vehicles" so I would say you have no consensus at all to continue the redirect.

If you have a problem go to AFD. –Davey2010^Talk 16:00, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes. I have gone there and have added another reason. You however have deleted a talk page discussion without any reason. If the article is so dear to you then you should be able to explain why it should stay. U¹ _quattro TALK 16:02, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Good for you. It's like you're simply looking for a reason to delete it. Why not improve it and source it ?, BEBOLD and all that.

Just remember U1 we're here to give our readers knowledge ... just remember that. –Davey2010^Talk 16:08, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

And that article fails to provide sound knowledge to readers about the subject matter. Sourcing it a big hindrance as there are no third party sources covering it. That's why I'm against it staying. U¹ _quattro TALK 16:20, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Wrong, The article provides basic knowledge to our readers however it can provide more if people put effort in it, I've done my bit and have done the best I can with it. You didn't state that at that time, You simply stated it was unsourced... so I sourced it ... and now you're still unhappy with it, Either way not my problem. You had a problem = I fixed that problem. Goodbye. –Davey2010^Talk 16:32, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 33, 2020)

Abraham Ortelius's world map, from the Typus Orbis Terrarum ("Theatre of the Orb of the World") atlas, first published in 1564 Hello, Davey2010. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: World map Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: New World crops • Double standard Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 10 August 2020 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI •

Tech News: 2020-33

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Recent changes

• FileImporter and FileExporter became standard features on all Wikis during the first week of August. They help you transfer files from local wikis to Wikimedia Commons with the original file information and history intact. [86]

Problems

• The mobile skin displays a message at the bottom of the page about who edited last. This message showed raw wikitext. This has now been fixed. Some messages in Structured Discussions and content translation may still appear as raw wikitext. Developers are working on it. [87]

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from August 12. It will be on all wikis from August 13 (calendar).

Future changes

• All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 13:30 and 15:30 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [88][89]

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16:06, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

This is not an acceptable edit summary

Here. This will likely get you blocked if it happens again. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:05, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Hey Floq, Understood, My apologies for that, Having spent the last 3-4 days on that article alone the last thing anyone wants to see is someone come over and just delete everything .. so that comment was more out of frustration than anything, Still I shouldn't of said it,

I've apologised to U1 for it too[90],

Apologies again, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:29, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for apologizing to U1Q. That happens around here so much less often than it should, it's nice to see it happen. This warning was probably more abrupt than called for, too, so I'll do my bit and apologize for the tone. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:45, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Floq, No worries I'll always hold my hands up and apologise for things I've said or done wrong, I agree - Apologies on here are unfortunately rare,

No apology necessary - The tone was fine, I'm counting my lucky stars I wasn't blocked to be honest!, Anyway thanks for your message, Hope you and yours have been okay,

Take care Floq, –Davey2010^Talk 21:53, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

FFS

Good job further extending the idiotic drama and increasing the amount of trolling happening I hope you're pleased with yourself. --JBL (talk) 21:05, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

No JBL, Leaving it there whilst telling everyone else "You're being trolled" increases the drama, Removing or striking his comment with all comments moved to talkpage 'decreases the drama. –Davey2010^Talk 21:08, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 34, 2020)

An act is a division or unit of a theatre work, including a play, film, opera, and musical theatre. Pictured is a visual representation of the three-act structure. Hello, Davey2010. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Act (drama) Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: World map • New World crops Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI •

Tech News: 2020-34

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Recent changes

• If you revert an edit using the undo link your edit is marked with an undo tag. This will now only happen if you don't change anything in the edit window before publishing the undo. This is to keep users from marking edits as undos when they actually do something else. [91]
• The new OOUI version will not work with Internet Explorer 8. This means the wikis will look strange and not work well in Internet Explorer 8. This was reported in Tech/News/2020/17. This is because keeping the wikis working with very old browsers creates other problems. [92]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 August. It will be on all wikis from 20 August (calendar).

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This week's article for improvement (week 35, 2020)

Delivery is the process of transporting goods from a source location to a predefined destination. Pictured is a man delivering charcoal by bicycle in Uganda. Hello, Davey2010. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Delivery (commerce) Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Act (drama) • World map Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 24 August 2020 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI •

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 August. It will be on all wikis from 27 August (calendar).

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Car category rangeblock

If you mean the range of the last two IPs here, unfortunately that's too wide of a range to block; that's a /14 range, and the largest range we can block on IPv4 is /16, and even that would carry too much collateral damage in this case. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 18:06, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ohnoitsjamie Ah no sorry I didn't mean the range for those 2, I know on some occasions he's come back as the same IP but the end 2 numbers have been different (IE "2.123." has remained the same but numbers after that have been different), I would assume blocking on 2.123 would be almost impossible as would assume that's an entire area etc, (My knowledge of rangeblocks isn't great!),

Anyway many thanks for your swift help, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 18:13, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

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WikiProject Horror Newsletter - August 2020

The WikiProject Horror Newsletter The November 2024 Issue / August 2020 Project news A peer review has started on the article Squirm at Wikipedia:Peer review/Squirm/archive1. It is conducting for receiving a broader perspective on how it may be improved. Feel free to participate. Newly nominated content Joel (The Last of Us) Warg The Guest (2014 American film) Parasite Eve (film) The Last of Us Task force and related news We need more contributors to the newsletter. Feel free to participate. Feel free to suggest new ideas and proposals for the project. Article of the month Alien (film) Alien is a 1979 science-fiction horror film directed by Ridley Scott and written by Dan O'Bannon. Based on a story by O'Bannon and Ronald Shusett, it follows the crew of the commercial space tug Nostromo, who encounter the eponymous Alien, a deadly and aggressive extraterrestrial set loose on the ship. Quotes “Listen to them, the children of the night. What music they make!” -Dracula (Bram Stoker). Sent by Path slopu on behalf of WikiProject Horror. Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. Collaboration of the Month The current Collaboration of the Month has been None. The next collaboration is due for selection on November 30, 2024, so nominate an article and/or vote on a current nomination. Announcements and open tasks WikiProject Horror Announcements and open tasks → Please place the {{WikiProject Horror}} banner in appropriate article talk pages! Current Featured Article candidates (67 achieved): None Current Good Article candidates (442 achieved): Warg, The Guest (2014 American film), Parasite Eve (film) WikiProject Horror Peer Reviews: Squirm Article alerts: Please check here for up-to-date information on horror-related article alerts. Cleanup listing: Please check here for a list of horror-related articles that may require some form of work done on them. The Collaboration of the Month is currently inactive. Nominations for Coordinator positions are currently ongoing. Feel free to add your name and comments. To stop receiving this newsletter, please remove your username (Davey2010) from the Delivery list.

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Skurfing as a sport has two common forms: "water skurfing" and "street skurfing". Pictured is an example of water skurfing, water skiing on a surfboard. Hello, Davey2010. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Skurfing (sport) Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Delivery (commerce) • Act (drama) Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 31 August 2020 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI •

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Editing news 2020 #4

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Reply tool

The number of comments posted with the Reply Tool from March through June 2020. People used the Reply Tool to post over 7,400 comments with the tool.

The Reply tool has been available as a Beta Feature at the Arabic, Dutch, French and Hungarian Wikipedias since 31 March 2020. The first analysis showed positive results.

• More than 300 editors used the Reply tool at these four Wikipedias. They posted more than 7,400 replies during the study period.
• Of the people who posted a comment with the Reply tool, about 70% of them used the tool multiple times. About 60% of them used it on multiple days.
• Comments from Wikipedia editors are positive. One said, أعتقد أن الأداة تقدم فائدة ملحوظة؛ فهي تختصر الوقت لتقديم رد بدلًا من التنقل بالفأرة إلى وصلة تعديل القسم أو الصفحة، التي تكون بعيدة عن التعليق الأخير في الغالب، ويصل المساهم لصندوق التعديل بسرعة باستخدام الأداة. ("I think the tool has a significant impact; it saves time to reply while the classic way is to move with a mouse to the Edit link to edit the section or the page which is generally far away from the comment. And the user reaches to the edit box so quickly to use the Reply tool.")[95]

The Editing team released the Reply tool as a Beta Feature at eight other Wikipedias in early August. Those Wikipedias are in the Chinese, Czech, Georgian, Serbian, Sorani Kurdish, Swedish, Catalan, and Korean languages. If you would like to use the Reply tool at your wiki, please tell User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF).

The Reply tool is still in active development. Per request from the Dutch Wikipedia and other editors, you will be able to customize the edit summary. (The default edit summary is "Reply".) A "ping" feature is available in the Reply tool's visual editing mode. This feature searches for usernames. Per request from the Arabic Wikipedia, each wiki will be able to set its own preferred symbol for pinging editors. Per request from editors at the Japanese and Hungarian Wikipedias, each wiki can define a preferred signature prefix in the page MediaWiki:Discussiontools-signature-prefix. For example, some languages omit spaces before signatures. Other communities want to add a dash or a non-breaking space.

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• This is a reminder. All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 14:00 and 15:00 UTC. Please check on the details on the announcement message. [96][97]

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Greatest Hits Radio Swindon

Hi Davey2010, I noticed that you have recently removed the old Jack FM logo, but left the the text info. This makes it a bit untidy, so I completely removed the text and the deleted file png completely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DoctorStrange97 (talk • contribs) 15:02, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Greatest Hits Radio Swindon

Hi Davey2010, I noticed that you have recently removed the old Jack FM logo, but left the the text info. This makes it a bit untidy, so I completely removed the text and the deleted file png completely. DoctorStrange97 (talk) 15:08, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi DoctorStrange97, Yeah sorry about that, I thought it was hidden recently but apparentkly not, Many thanks for removing it, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 17:09, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

You're very welcome.DoctorStrange97 (talk) 21:02, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

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Hello, Davey2010. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Grease (song) Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: Skurfing (sport) • Delivery (commerce) Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 7 September 2020 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI •

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• Normally pages can be moved to a title that has no existing page yet or to a page that has only one revision, which is a redirect to the page to be moved. A new user right allows editors to move pages over one-revision pages that redirect to anywhere. [98]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 September. It will be on all wikis from 10 September (calendar).
• All MediaWiki API modules will now use watchlist instead of watch. This was inconsistent before. [99]

Future changes

• The Wikipedia Android app team might work on patrolling tools in the future. You can let them know what tools would be useful for you or for less experienced patrollers. See the page on mediawiki.org.
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• The Wikipedia Android app will send push notifications if users want them. This could help you see for example when someone wrote on your talk page or your edit was reverted. This will need Google Play Services to work. It will also be possible to get the app without Google Play Services but push notifications will not work. Google Play Services is also used to make the app work for Android 4.4 users. [101][102]
• Wikimedia code review could move to GitLab. It would be hosted on Wikimedia servers. You can take part in the consultation.
• Dropdown menus in the Vector skin use a .menu class. This will not work in the future. Scripts can use nav ul instead. .vectorTabs and .vectorMenu will also not work. Some scripts need to be updated. You can read more in Phabricator.

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Eagle Radio?

Hi, I'm afraid that user Tod55 has moved page Greatest Hits Radio back to Eagle Radio again without a good reason. Whats his problem?DoctorStrange97 (talk) 15:41, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi DoctorStrange97, Just commented there before I saw your post, Yeah I'm slightly confused by it - Providing the history's all kept I don't see why it would need to remain at the old name?, –Davey2010^Talk 15:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

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Problems

• The Wikipedia apps briefly showed pages without CSS last week. This meant they looked wrong. It was quickly fixed but cached pages without CSS were shown for a few hours. [103][104]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 September. It will be on all wikis from 17 September (calendar).

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16:18, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Regarding the logo on Indian Railways

I'll keep this brief, there's text on the train that can't be read clearly at 180px. Is there any particular issue with a logo size value of 250px? Prolix 💬 18:36, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi Prolix, Up until this very second I had no idea there was even text on the train - Even at 250px I still cannot read the text on it so it would need to be higher than 250px to please everyone however obviously that would be silly, I guess you could always crop that bit of text and put it in the article somewhere if it's really that important however having the logo huge for the sake of some tiny Indian text in the middle is IMHO silly, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 18:41, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Davey2010, I think it reads perfectly fine at 250px, it doesn't need to be any bigger than that. That aside, why is 250px too big? Prolix 💬 18:44, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Well good for you. Well because it is ?, The current sizing is adequate and doesn't need enlarging for the sake of some text that English readers wouldn't understand. –Davey2010^Talk 18:49, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Davey2010, that seems to be a very weak line of reasoning. 250px isn't too big, most logos on wikipedia are that size. Care to point out the MOS that says 250 is too big? Prolix 💬 18:53, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Most logos here are 150px depennding on the logo itself. 250px is too big, Care to get the fuck off my talkpage?. –Davey2010^Talk 18:56, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Davey2010, you have a colourful personality. If you can't link me the MOS that backs up your claims I'll be reverting your edit. Have a nice day. Prolix 💬 19:00, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Well unfortunately for you we have wp:BRD so you'd need to get consensus, Cheerio!. –Davey2010^Talk 19:10, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Davey2010, that works too, thanks for pointing it out. Prolix 💬 19:18, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome, Happy editing. –Davey2010^Talk 19:31, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

@Prolix: It would actually be preferable never to use pixels as pixels are not a unit of length. For example, a Samsung Galaxy S20 has a 6.2" 3200×1440 (563 ppi) display. On a 27" 1080p desktop monitor, you'd only have 82 ppi. Unfortunately MediaWiki only supports relative sizes for thumbnails. (using the upright parameter) If users want to read the text on the train of the Indian Railways logo, they'll have to view the full version. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:53, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz, thank you for that. I hadn't considered how the same image could look vastly different on different devices depending upon the resolution of the screen. Prolix 💬 07:50, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

I need consensus

Hey Davey. Hope you don't mind me asking for help.. See Template talk:Infobox video game#Release date (P577). Seems like a no-brainer to use P577 from Wikidata if the local release parameter is absent, but apparently no.

I don't like starting an RfC here, which I'm guessing is what ferret is hinting at. I don't understand the rules and would prefer nobody attempts to explain them to me. I just get shouted at. I can't, won't and don't understand why "We should change this fucking thing" is wrong and "We should change this thing (new line) Support, we should change this fucking thing" is alright. At least that's how I think it works, and I shan't comprehend it.

Can you help? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:07, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Hey Alexis Jazz, Sorry for getting back to you so late, RFCs are the best thing when it comes to getting consensus (they're my go to) however in this case this would appear to be the only label that isn't invoked from Wikidata and so getting consensus for it would seem daft given others have been accepted or added without issue. Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 11:08, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi again, Ferret has replied and being absolutely honest I didn't understand a single word of their reply, Mainly because I don't work with Templates, So I'm afraid you'll need to get consensus (or talk to someone who works with Templates), Sorry I couldn't be of any help, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 12:09, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

I forgot to reply I think. Thanks for looking at it, I think I'll just let it rest for now. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:01, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

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Changes later this week

• The number of times you can do something in a period of time on wiki is limited. This could be the number of edits per minute or the number of users you email in a day. Some users are not affected by all limits because of their user rights. They could soon see the limit even if it does not affect them. [107]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 September. It will be on all wikis from 24 September (calendar).

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21:26, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry about the redundant comment. I was looking at you contribution history, and missed the third party edit summary on your talk page. Meters (talk) 04:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

No worries, happy editing. –Davey2010^Talk 10:48, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Apology accepted

Rcarter555 (talk) 15:45, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi Rcarter555, Thank you that means a lot, Happy editing, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 15:49, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

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• Admins can now see links to diffs of deleted revisions on Special:AbuseLog. This uses the interface of Special:Undelete. [108]
• Editors are automatically added to some user groups. For example editors are added to autoconfirmed users when they have edited enough times and long enough. Abuse filters can hinder users from automatically getting user rights for a period of time. They can also remove rights user have. Wikis can now ask to change how long this period of time is for their wiki in Phabricator. It is currently five days. [109]

Problems

• Last year some abuse filters stopped working because of a new change. If they tried to use variables that were unavailable for that action they would fail. This has now been fixed. [110]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 September. It will be on all wikis from 1 October (calendar).

Future changes

• You can't see the language links to other language versions from the talk page or history page. They are also not shown when you edit an article. This could change. It is not decided if for example the history page should link to another history page or to the article. You can take part in the discussion in Phabricator.
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• You can soon put pages on your watchlist for a limited time. This could be useful if you want to watch something for a shorter time but don't want it on your watchlist forever. It now works on mediawiki.org and will come to more wikis later. You can read more and see when it will come to other wikis.
• You can see what Wikimedians think are the best new technical tools this year. You can also nominate them.

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This week's article for improvement (week 41, 2020)

Hello, Davey2010. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Trout Mask Replica Please be bold and help to improve this article! Previous selections: August 2016 Aden bombing • Pig Latin Get involved with the TAFI project. You can: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 5 October 2020 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject TAFI •

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• There is a new tool where you can see which home wiki users have in discussions on Meta. This can help show which communities are not part of the discussion on wikis where we make decisions that affect many other wikis.
• You can now thank users for file uploads or for changing the language of a page. [112]

Problems

• There were many errors with the new MediaWiki version last week. The new version was rolled back. Updates that should have happened last week are late. [113]
• Everyone was logged out. This was because a user reported being logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now. [114]
• Many pages have JavaScript errors. You can read more and now see a list of user scripts with errors.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 October. It will be on all wikis from 8 October (calendar).
• Letters immediately after a link are shown as part of the link. For example the entire word in [[Child]]ren is linked. On Arabic wikis this works at both the start and end of a word. Previously on Arabic wikis numbers and other non-letter Unicode characters were shown as part of the link at the start of a word but not at the end. Now only Latin and Arabic letters will extend links on Arabic wikis. [115]

Future changes

• You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on 27 October around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [116]

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16:24, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

AirAsia Japan

AirAsia Japan stopped operating. So I updated the article to reflect this and provided a citation. Why did you revert the edit? Jellysandwich0 (talk) 15:08, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Jellysandwich0, Ah my apologies - I was meant to have self reverted but RL called, I've gone ahead and self reverted now, Apologies again, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 15:33, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

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Greatest Hits Radio

The RfC at WT:WPRS has concluded with four !votes in favor of having the pre-rollup station articles at pre-rollup names. I've already done Dream 100 FM; is it possible to do much the same with the others? Raymie (t • c) 00:25, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Raymie, Thanks for the heads up, I was simply going to revert back to pre-GHR, add a simple GHR merger sentence and then move it, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 08:41, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Thanks CAPTAIN RAJU, 10 years ago today I created this account, Where has the time gone?, Ofcourse I only started editing in 2013 but still certainly doesn't feel like I've been here for 7 odd years, Ah well thanks for your wishes :), Happy editing!, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 18:12, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

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Problems

• Because of the problems with the MediaWiki version two weeks ago last week's updates are also late. [117][118][119]

Changes later this week

• Live previews didn't show the templates used in the preview if you just edited a section. This has now been fixed. You can also test CSS and JavaScript pages even if you have the live preview enabled. Previously this didn't work well. [120][121]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 October. It will be on all wikis from 15 October (calendar).

Future changes

• A new stable version of Pywikibot is coming soon. [122]

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Script fix

I appreciate your gratitude, but I am a Luddite compared to most on here and relied upon the guidance/examples of @TheDJ and CAPTAIN MEDUSA:. They deserve the credit, not me! GiantSnowman 21:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Morning {{u|GiantSnowman)), I copied TheDJs code as well as Medusas and neither worked whereas yours did, I did notice Medusa created the "Testing.js" page but assumed that was a test for himself whereas you provided something that worked and plus you were kind enough to provide a diff for your fix. I've read the recent discussion but I'm happy with the fix you provided - It works so that's all I care about :), Happy editing, –Davey2010^Talk 08:39, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

The Danielle Lloyd business

I've begun discussion at the BLP noticeboard [123], which may be of interest to you. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:24, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 43, 2020)

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 October. It will be on all wikis from 22 October (calendar).

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October 2020

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for abuse of editing privileges. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  – bradv🍁 19:53, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

So it's absolutely fine to be poked yet the moment I become angry at said poking I'm the one in the wrong?, Right okay. Your blocking has simply proven my point - This place has become a circus. Anywho I'm finally done with the project. Thanks to those who have helped me and supported over the years. Take care all. –Davey2010^Talk 20:04, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Dude. I think it's a matter of degree. If someone tells me my hat looks silly, I can't burn down their house and kick their dog, right? On reflection, it does look a little pokey-ish to me, and I wish it had not been posted the first time. But you need to let things roll off your back a little, and not lead you to do things that are clearly against a few policies. I'm quite probably projecting, because I'm noticing myself being more on-edge than usual, but I'm wondering if something is making you more easily fly off the handle lately? I'm reminded of your getting angry really quickly last week too. Hope all is going well for you IRL, and ... this looks snotty, but isn't ... a few days off might be just what the Dr. ordered. Take care, --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:07, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Floq, Very fair point you wouldn't do such extreme actions over a silly comment and maybe my flying off the handle yesterday could be seen as being a tad extreme, I believe AG dragged me to ANI over something silly before so there's history between us.

IRL everything's much better now than it was say 2-3 months ago, Mentally I'm better now or atleast getting there but when someone out of the blue comes along and tells me "you read that wrong" - I see that comment as someone trying to poke me more than anything especially when as I said there's been history between us.

Unfortunately the FO's/flying off the handle have been a thing since I've been here and I believe I was nearly indeffed over it too although I had at one point adjusted to using different phrases but unfortunately that doesn't appear to have lasted,

Take care Floq and thank you for reaching out here, I always appreciate and take onboard everything you say here. Thank you for your help and support over the years it means a lot so thanks again, Take care Floq (And if I don't return then I wish you all the very best).

Djm-leighpark - Please accept my sincere and unreserved apologies for the edit summary used yesterday, I have never ever once thought you were a troll. When someone's quite clearly angry the last thing anyone should ever do is template someone as that just inflames the situation, Even if policies or whatnot were broken a gentle message goes a long way and certainly is more appreciated than a templated warning but either way there's no excuse for the edit summary so I sincerely apologise for saying what I did.

Hi Patient Zero, Many thanks for your kind words and likewise you've helped me a lot on this project (as has Floq and countless others) and my thanks on here will never be enough but thank you for your help on here and thank you for the birthday wishes too, Yeah all is well thanks much better now than when lockdown was a thing that's for sure, Hope you're doing well mate, Take care (And if I don't return then I wish you all the very best).

Many thanks Chris troutman!, Take care. –Davey2010^Talk 14:15, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Hey Swarm, No harm done, It was nice to recieve something positive I guess :). Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 14:15, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Wishing Davey2010 a very happy birthday on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman (talk) 21:44, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Happy birthday, Dave. I hope all is well? I remember many years ago when you helped me out on here, as I was just getting started. Just wanted you to remember you were of such great help to me back then and I’m very grateful that you took me under your wing. Hope to see you back when everything cools down again. We’re losing too many good eggs. Patient Zero^talk 23:14, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• Lol. With nothing but love for the birthday committee, and without saying Davey did or did not deserve this block, dropping by a blocked editor's talk page with a big ol' banner wishing them a "HAPPY BIRTHDAY!" is a bit dystopian. Read the room, Chris. ~Swarm~ ^{sting} 03:58, 23 October 2020 (UTC)