Talk:West Shore Railroad

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Saratoga and Hudson River Railroad Spring 1866 Athens Jct - Athens Jersey City and Albany Railroad reopened May 11, 1874 under lease by New Jersey Midland - south of Tappan open to Haverstraw by 1880 North River Railroad planned to continue from Haverstraw to Albany with branches to Schenectady and to the NYO&W east of Wurtsborough Planned as part of line to San Francisco, continuing from Buffalo on the New York, Chicago and St. Louis Railway, Chicago, Milwaukee and St. Paul Railway, Northern Pacific Railroad and Oregon Navigation Company

• Another New Railroad Completed, New York Times March 19, 1866 page 5
• City and Suburban News, New York Times May 2, 1874 page 12
• General Railway Notes, New York Times June 15, 1880 page 5
• Extensive Railroad Projects, New York Times August 4, 1880 page 5
• A New Line to the West, New York Times November 5, 1881 page 8

Ridgefield Park Railroad 4/4/1867 Rockland Central Railroad 5/23/1870 Rockland Central Extension Railroad 5/29/1872 Rockland Central Railroad 7/29/1872 Jersey City and Albany Railroad 6/24/1873 Jersey City and Albany Railroad 9/18/1877 Jersey City and Albany Railway 10/12/1878 Jersey City and Albany Railway 1/25/1879 - 1/28/1879 New York, West Shore and Buffalo Railway 2/18/1880 North River Railway 4/3/1880 North River Railroad 5/5/1881 New York, West Shore and Buffalo Railway 6/14/1881 opened 1/1/1884 West Shore Railroad 12/5/1885

On July 9, 1901, the West Shore Railroad Company merged with itself the West Shore and Ontario Terminal Company, formed on June 20, 1883, as The Open Cut and General Storehouse Company (the name being changed on the same date) by consolidation of The National Stock Yard Company (incorporated March 16, 1869, supplemented February 23, 1870), The Midland Terminal and Ferry Company (incorporated by change of name March 7, 1873, from The Weehawken Transportation Company, incorporated March 22, 1871) and The Open Cut and General Storehouse Company (incorporated March 22, 1871, in the state of New Jersey as a reorganization after sale, on September 21, 1881, of The Weehawken Ferry Company, incorporated March 25, 1852, in the state of New Jersey).

Named trains

A previous editor included several named trains which Internet searches disprove that they were on the West Shore line. There are references to Peekskill and Croton-Harmon, east shore locations. The editor cited Arthur G. Adams, The Hudson River Through the Years. But Adams mentions these trains without explicitly saying that these were on the West Shore. In any event, as said earlier, simple searches for these trains bring up east shore towns. A better reference is needed, such as the Official Guide.Dogru144 (talk) 23:53, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Attempts to restore passenger service

I've heard occasional rumors about this, but I never found any proof until now; There was actually a proposal to restore passenger service along the West Shore Branch in the form of another commuter line during the 1990's, and this New York Times article ("Abandoned 36 Years Ago, the West Shore Rail Line Creeps Closer Toward Revival," June 25, 1995) seems to be the best evidence of this. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 18:59, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

It was the name given to Major Investment Study that included Northern Branch Corridor Project, the Passaic-Bergen Rail Line and service along the West Shore right of way which has not advanced. Of course light rail service has been restore through the Weehawken Tunnel in the form of the HBLR. They may have used a small section of the West Shore ROW if the original plan to go the the NJT (Vince Lombardi) Park and Ride. I'd suggest you gather the appropriate references, i.e. the major study, if you intend to add anything about this to make it clear east the scope of the work may/may have included, otherwise it's OR and fluff. Here's a start:

• http://www.nytimes.com/1981/11/15/nyregion/west-shore-line-good-news.html
• http://www.njtransit.com/tm/tm_servlet.srv?hdnPageAction=PressReleaseTo&PRESS_RELEASE_ID=268
• http://www.fta.dot.gov/12304_2746.html
• road-and-rail-one-county-s-transit-decongestant, November 11, 1995, retrieved 2011-05-30

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/06/25/nyregion/abandoned-36-years-ago-the-west-shore-rail-line-creeps-closer-toward-revival.html?scp=1&sq=Abandoned%2036%20Years%20Ago,%20the%20West%20Shore%20Rail%20Line%20Creeps%20Closer%20Toward%20Revival.&st=cse Abandoned 36 Years Ago, the West Shore Rail Line Creeps Closer Toward Revival Published: June 25, 1995

Hmm, I'm surprised a New York Times article on a failed proposal would be considered OR. Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about this link? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 02:25, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

The OR would come w/o the reference or how it material was presented. The Times article is good, as is the other from '81 when the re-introduction of service was also being discussed. These never got off the ground, of course. I'm quite inclusive when it comes using references (since I expect references) if they provide welll-considered info since sometimes they may only place where info can be verified as well as give readers links to further investigate subjects. Think there may be enough to have a section on studied or proposed restoration of service, though the NJT was regional study that also looked at the Northern Branh & NYSW ROWs, too.Djflem (talk) 14:19, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

From Northern Branch DEIS Executive Summary September 2011 The Northern Branch Corridor Project is an outgrowth and continuation of the West Shore Region Study, begun jointly in 1996 by NJ TRANSIT and the counties of Bergen, in New Jersey, and Rockland, in New York. The study was initiated in response to growing concerns about roadway congestion in northeastern New Jersey and adjacent areas in New York State. Previous studies in the area, including the West Shore Commuter Rail Planning Study Phase I Final Report (Kaiser Engineers, December 1988) and the West Shore Line Evaluation Study (Sverdrup, April 1995), had examined only specific corridors and modes. The West Shore Region Study was undertaken to provide a comprehensive examination of potential congestion solutions in several corridors and for all modes. Subsequent to the West Shore Region Study, the West Shore Region Study Alternatives Analysis Report (Edwards and Kelcey, December 1999) described the evaluation of a broad range of preliminary alternatives resulting in the selection of three corridors throughout Bergen, Passaic, and Rockland Counties for further analysis, including the Northern Branch Build Alternative.

Perhaps will have to be mentioned that New Ydork State has shifted focus on is interested to tie Rockland to Westchester and East of Hudson service with bus rapid tranver the new Tappen Zee Bridge replacement. "Executive Summary:Mass Transit Task Force New NY Bridge Transit Recommendations" (PDF). New York State Thruway Authority. February 2014. Retrieved 2014-10-29.

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