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Rafael Nadal was nominated as a good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (July 6, 2008). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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January 2005 - August 2007

Nadal's overall record

his # finals reached in 2008 needs to be updated. he should have 8 not 7. french, wimby, miami, monte carlo, hamburg, chennai, queens 64.162.56.198 (talk) 22:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

is record at 239-60. Anyone care to check this out? EDIT: Okay, I just saw the "includes Davis Cup statistics etc," so I assume that's where the discrepancy comes from? And if so, would it be helpful to list his records in the bitch same area as the other tournaments? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.218.84.248 (Talk) (talk • contribs) 02:53, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Some times there are discrepancies within a bio as some editors update in an inconsistent manner. Ideally, there should only be updates after a tournament, but some keep raising win numbers for every win during a tournament in the infobox, in the performance timeline, both places, or randomly. This is done mostly in good faith, but is very annoying for editors who then have to make time-consuming consistency checks after tournaments. In the current case, Nadal was, according to the ATP 239-59 going into the 2007 Canada Masters. This is what I have reverted things to in the infobox, as his earnings will not be updated on the ATP site before Monday August 13 ("239-60" makes no sense). Hence, it makes no sense to update the infobox to 242-60 yet. In the singles performance timeline, however, it is stated correctly that it is updated up to and including Canada Masters, making his total record 242-60 (three wins and a loss added). So as of this instance the article is consistent given the information provided. But I sure would hope that people would leave the numbers alone during tournaments. --HJensen, talk 11:39, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.--GregCujo 07:43, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on some sad bastard sitting on the edit page waiting for Nadal to win wimbeldon and suddenly editing. What a loser. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.213.191.29 (talk) 20:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

dude you did it as well, you silly billy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.0.242.16 (talk) 20:29, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just because Nadal won Wimbledon doesn't change his ranking to #1. Hahaha. Someone change it back.

Popular culture

My only wish is to get this link into the article somehow, even it is't just one of the external links below. I'm not sure how to introduce the satire link without runing the encyclopedic tone. Any thoughts? --Evilbred (talk) 17:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. It is quite funny, but has no place in the article at all. As you have noticed, it is a satirical piece.--HJensen, talk 21: 46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Does anyone have the story about why he bites his trophies? Just think that it's an interesting tidbit that people, obviously myself included, might like to know. 98.193.75.7 (talk) 18:35, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know why he picks his underwear everytime he is about to serve? Might make a more interesting story. (Bad case of wedgies?) KiNgFrOmHeLl (talk) 16:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cortex???

Cause in close up photos you can tell that his cortex is a just painted strip of yellow 64.162.56.198 (talk) 22:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do we know that he use aero pro drive without Cortex????????????????????????????Kraufte 20:30, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bias

This article has so much bias and opinions. Someone should really keep this article in check because week after week random viewers keep "adding their own thoughts" which are not encyclopediac, or ruining the article structure. For example, someone totally screwed up the "Playing Style" section; and the Wimbledon 2006 final about Nadal is very opinionated saying things such as "Nadal played well in the final after a sluggish start." There are many other areas with opinionated sections.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.209.145.113 (talk) 02:44, April 20, 2008

I agree. Anyway, I reverted the Playing Style section back to a previous version because the version being replaced was very POV. oncamera^(t) 20:16, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was noticing this statement in the playing style section "He uses an extreme western grip forehand, which allows him to hit heavy, powerful topspin forehands giving him a smaller margin of error because of the height in which he clears the net and the speed of which the ball drops because of the topspin that is employed on the ball." Doesn't that allow a LARGER, not SMALLER, margin of error? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.231.88.4 (talk) 12:26, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I haven't a clue, but if it's wrong then change it so it makes sense. oncamera^(t) 19:03, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

there are errors in this article

The blurb about the movie ghost and el florero is obviously made up..it needs to be removed. Also, lleyton hewitt has never won the australian open, but this article states that he was the eventual winner in 2005

It says "He has a storied rivalry with Roger Federer, most notably for defeating the world number one at the French Open in 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008" but he did not play Roger Federer in 2005 at the French Open. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.217.2.181 (talk) 21:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of course Nadal played Federer at the French Open in 2005. Semifinal match 78.27.12.42 (talk) 20:25, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How can that error of 2005 at the French Open still be there 2 days later. As previously said he won the semifinal against Federer in 2005. DavidAlonso (talk) 22:02, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Links

Hi everyone,

I've tried to improve the links on the page and they are quite comprehensive, I hope this is OK but I have tried to ensure that only needed links have been placed in the text.

Kind regards

Jay —Preceding unsigned comment added by Red jay85 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Best achievement in US Open

As I know, Nadal reached 2006 US Open QF but not in 2007 US open. In 2007, he lost to David Ferrer in 4th round. So the Grand Slam Result in the box should be: "US Open QF (2006)" not "US Open QF (2007)". i cannot edit it because it is semi-protected. tq :) blizzard_youkai (talk) 20:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. Corrected. Pawnkingthree (talk) 21:22, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Player Stastistics

I don't think Nadal's stats. should be on a seperate page since Federer's doesn't either and Federer has more titles than Nadals, and so does McEnroe, Sampras, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.110.216 (talk) 21:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was moved to a separate page for reasons of length, as there was a "may be too long" tag. Personally I think the problem is not with the statistics section but with the career section, which should be written in a summary style. At the moment virtually every tournament he's played over the last four years is described in chronological order – it's too much. Each year should be summarised, with the most significant events described first. Pawnkingthree (talk) 22:05, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the statistics should not be on a separate page. - ARC Gritt^TALK 22:27, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, many other tennis player articles are quite long, and the statistics are not on a separate page. For example, Steffi Graf (100,945 bytes), Roger Federer (104,595 bytes) and Pete Sampras (83,692 bytes) compared to the 72,792 bytes of this page. - ARC Gritt^TALK 22:32, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Rafael Nadal statistics and results should now be deleted or turned into a redirect to this article. 74.208.16.88 (talk) 09:57, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mercedes Cup 2008

Nadal will skip it because of a knee injury Please add He is the defending champion

Ref: http://tennis.com/news/news.aspx?id=139480

Thanks a lot —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yosef1987 (talk • contribs) 00:59, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done it myself after the lock was removed

Playing Style Section

the playing style section seems like a lesson on topspin. It's over-long, in my opinion, and too much about topspin than about nadal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.253.160.107 (talk) 02:50, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]