Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga/Yu-Gi-Oh!/Archive 2

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PROJECT BANNER

Hi, I ve remodelled the {{WPYU-GI-OH}} (template name also changed), to a version were you can specify more details, this is for managing all the project's workload. Hope you look at it at least, I'm looking forward to renew this wikiproject (Prevent pple at gathering surpass us)--Andersmusician $ 05:11, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Are fan works to be mentioned in anime articles?

Some kids at Talk:Yu-Gi-Oh!#yu-gi-oh_the_abridged_series want a fan work to be mentioned on the article page. I stated that mentioning it would not be notable. WhisperToMe 20:49, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

You need to make sure you aren't confusing notability with the guidelines on having reliable sources - something does not have to be notable in order to be mentioned in an article but does if it going to have an article of it's own. Doesn't really make any difference though, I've looked for sources on the Abridged Series and haven't found any - so it shouldn't be mentioned. I don't agree with your stance that a fan work simply isn't worthy of inclusion regardless of the circumstances - see Harry_Potter_fandom#Fan_fiction for an example. EvilRedEye 15:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Chazz's VA: Pete Capella or Tony Salerno?

I believe Pete Capella is Chazz's VA. Chazz's voice changed, Jaden's didn't. Pete Capella moved away, Salerno didn't. Can someone help me change his info page now? Batwing321 04:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Project Categories

All right that's it category:WikiProject Yu-Gi-Oh! is ready, you can check articles there and add more to organize the Project's backlog. You might also want to check hoew the project is getting improved at Project stats and project assess log --Andersmusician $ 23:40, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I just added WP:YUGIOH to all the yu-gi-oh pages

Subject. Codelyoko193 _Talk 13:03, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

thanks pal --Andersmusician VOTE 22:19, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone know...

When the articles will be evaluated? Codelyoko193 _Talk 15:03, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

hmm sorry what do you mean with "evaluated" --Andersmusician VOTE 16:48, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

The articles that have not been assessed yet (there are 38). Codelyoko193 _Talk 18:08, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Anybody can, at anytime, and without conditions, just see instructions at template:WPYUGIOH. cheers --Andersmusician VOTE 00:04, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

see example[ http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AIshizu_Ishtar&diff=142563790&oldid=141793241 here] --Andersmusician VOTE 00:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh. I had always thought that only admins could do it. Thanks! Codelyoko193 _Talk 13:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Just to point out, the 'rated', 'quality scale' and 'importance scale' wikilinks on that template are dead. Having not dabbled much with assessment templates before I'm not sure what they're supposed to lead to... BTW, is it OK for me to assess articles even though I'm not on the list of contributors to this project? Or can I be put on the list? Thanks. EvilRedEye 16:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Yu-Gi-Oh related game

Hi, do you know where this image (Image:Yu-Gi-Oh Spirit Caller.jpg) should be? It will be deleted after Tuesday, 17 July 2007--Andersmusician VOTE 01:34, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Starter Box

This article needs someone in the know to look at it. I'm not quite sure what the subject of the article is supposed to be. EvilRedEye 21:58, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Individual episode articles

Individual episode articles need to stop right now. I suggest merging and redirecting them all to their respective "media and release" articles. In fact, I suggest turning those pages into "List of Yu-Gi-Oh! media" and "List of Yu-Gi-Oh! GX media" and then imitating WikiProject Anime's Featured Lists. Please also see Wikipedia:Television episodes for why individual articles in the case of Yu-Gi-Oh! are bad in a big way. Axem Titanium 06:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I support that, but hope episodes get merged by season, as a minimum --Andersmusician VOTE 03:58, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Too many characer articles!

Every other series has been getting a "Characters in blah blah Series" article, why is this one different? Can someone please start merging them all to one big article? There's no way all of those are notable. Also, please do the same to the Yugioh GX article. Some of those character pages are longer then the page for the show itself! I would do it but I have no idea what Yu-Gi-Oh is about... Knowitall (talk) 17:21, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

• Most popular series' main characters get their own articles. JuJube (talk) 17:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
• Yeah, but there's like 100 of them for Yu-Gi-Oh. No other series has that many. The series can't possibly have that many main characters...can it? Knowitall (talk) 05:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
• pokemon had --Andersmusician VOTE 01:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

  Well, they don't anymore, now do they? :-P Knowitall (talk) 10:21, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

• Well but these characters are apparently notable beacuse of yugioh audience --Andersmusician VOTE 01:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

  Uh huh...where I can go to attract the attention of other people to my issue? Knowitall (talk) 10:21, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

• maybe Talk:Yu-Gi-Oh!, the main article of the project --Andersmusician VOTE 21:57, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm Prepared to Duel?

Is there any way I can take the This user is Prepared to Duel thing off of my user box, I dont play the card game nor' watch the lame 4Kids anime. Jump Guru 19:39, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

• PLEASE!!! Will someone answer BACK!!! Jump Guru (talk) 21:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Take it off yourself? JuJube (talk) 22:03, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
    • How? Jump Guru (talk) 00:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
      • I removed it for you. I really don't see what was so difficult about it. JuJube (talk) 00:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
        • I didn't ask for you to edit on my page and take the user box off.. i still want people to know i'm in the WikiProject....... I'm Just not Prepared to Duel!!!. Jump Guru (talk) 19:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC) P.S. You should not be editing on my page unless you are a Wikipedia manager.
          • Alright, you officially piss me off. Figure it out your damn self, and don't whine on this page about it anymore. JuJube (talk) 04:49, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Content dispute at Yu-Gi-Oh! GX media and release information

• I hope someone from this project will offer assistance, as I haven't had much luck in getting anyone else to pay attention. There is a content dispute between myself and Taiketsu (talk · contribs) at this article. Initially, Taiketsu was blocked for revert-warring on this article, insisting that because this Wikipedia is primarily used by Americans, this article should list only the U.S. airdates, even though episodes have previously aired in Canada and the U.K. before here (and the last few have actually not aired in the U.S. yet). He's trying to circumvent the issue now by changing "English airdates" to "U.S. airdates" in the article. To me this is a clear case of systemic bias that should be avoided. I was under the impression that avoiding systemic bias was policy, but as it turns out it's not. I have an RFC on the article, but no response yet. Can someone help? I guess it's hard to get people to give a damn about Yu-Gi-Oh, but... give it a shot, please? JuJube (talk) 07:44, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you. This is English wikipedia not American Wikipedia. Maybe Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias can help.Jyuichi (talk) 05:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Taiketsu is wrong. The norm for these lists is to have the original air date and then the first English air date. List of Stargate Atlantis episodes is a good example of where there is actually a mix of US and Canadian air dates being first. -- Ned Scott 05:33, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion: Dark Beginning 2

Dark Beginning 2 (via WP:PROD on 27 December 2007) Deleted

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:03, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 05:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletions (AFD) of note for this project

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Legend of Blue-Eyes White Dragon and, supposedly, all the other sets in the Yu-Gi-Oh! Trading Card Game sets template, though the nomination seems to be incomplete at the moment. —Quasirandom (talk) 04:11, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Another has come up: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of promotional Yu-Gi-Oh! trading cards. —Quasirandom (talk) 01:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Another: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Duelist Pack - Jaden Yuki, which a multi-nomination covering several packs. (Dunno if anyone actually is here -- if not, then maybe the project should be shut down?) —Quasirandom (talk) 01:26, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Another: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Forbidden Legacy. —Quasirandom (talk) 05:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

• I think these articles should be deleted. YGO Wikia goes into more detail about these, and that's the place for it, not Wikipedia. JuJube (talk) 18:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

List of Yu-Gi-Oh! GX major characters

• As the AfD for Chumley Huffington ended in a Merge, I'm going to try to get a List of major characters up when I have time. Heads up if you want to help or do it yourself. JuJube (talk) 18:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
  • I've started it at User:JuJube/List of major characters in Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, but I would appreciate any help with completing it as I don't have a lot of time to work on it. JuJube (talk) 02:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Guidelines

WP:FICT has been revised

WP:FICT, the notability guideline for elements within a work of fiction (characters, places, elements, etc) has a new proposal/revision that is now live [1] Everyone is encouraged to leave feedback on the talk page. Ned Scott 22:02, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability (serial works)

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The image of the four teenagers dueling

I'm not sure if this image is really appropiate, as it shows one teenager smoking which is against the law in most countries. Any other thoughts on this? --Jammy (talk) 16:50, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

well it may look inapropriate but it isnt in a official Wikipedia policy or an article itself, its in a Wikiproject page, so there shouldnt be much trouble about it IMO. user:andersmusician--201.230.120.135 (talk) 21:02, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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Yu-Gi-Oh Millenium Items

There is a discussion ongoing about what do do with the Millennium Items page. The AfD resulted in no consensus because about 6 different options were presented. It was clear, however, that neither the status quo nor any of the suggestions were strictly superior. I'm looking for some support from the project to see what to do with this page. Thanks Protonk (talk) 23:25, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• I think my solution is the best one. JuJube (talk) 23:56, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Media franchises

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Cleanup on Yu-Gi-Oh! episode related articles

• Because of a discussion on WP:ANIME, I noticed that the Yu-Gi-Oh! episode list related articles have Japanese episode names listed in English instead of romanji, which is probably WP:OR. I'm not familiar with the uncut versions and whether or not they're actually "dubtitles", but with GX they'd very definitely not be kosher. Going to clean it up when I get the chance. JuJube (talk) 03:11, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Text on Orichalcos Cards

The Japanese Orichalcos cards have Enochian text in the lore section, but nobody has translated them.

The lack of translations probably come from a lack of an unobstructed image, but Japanese episode 149 might have a workable image.Romyes (talk) 23:54, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Rally's Gender

Just wanted to let everyone know - Rally is agreed by most of the fandom to be a boy. Who wrote his entry saying he's a girl? lol. Anyway, just wanted to say that I fixed that entry for you guys, but yeah. He may look like a girl which confuses some people, but he's actually a boy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.242.242.39 (talk)

Harpies

Do the Harpies merit their own section in the List of Yu-Gi-Oh! cards article? Tempest115 (talk) 22:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

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Possible IP vandal

76.231.30.154 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has been making a number of subtle edits to articles subject to this project, some clearly wrong, and some of which I have no idea. Could someone knowledgable check? — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:54, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Sources

Does this project have any known sources that can pass WP:V and other policies? Janime is fansite and the YGO wiki is a wiki, so both can't be used. Other than magazines, what sources can be used that pass policy. I think many articles in this project have GA and FA potential, but lack of sourcing is a huge problem. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:32, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I've been over all the sources at Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga/Online reliable sources and I can't find a single source with reviews of Yu-Gi-Oh!, character analysis, comparisons, or anything besides vague DVD descriptions. I'm starting to think this is a lost cause. Quite frankly, every single in the scope of this project (or task force or work group or whatever it is now) sucks. If sources could be found, I do feel a lot of the articles could be greatly improved. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 05:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

This is Yu-Gi-Oh!. The sources definitely exist; it's just a matter of looking in the right place (and I'm definitely not suggesting that you didn't look hard enough; even sources for huge franchises like this can be surprisingly hard to find). I say let eventualism do its thing. =) --Dinoguy1000 (talk · contribs) as 67.58.229.153 (talk) 04:42, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Article Mergers

Many articles have been suggested to be merged with List of Yu-Gi-Oh! GX characters, some listed as early as a year ago. There has ZERO discussion on this at Talk:List of Yu-Gi-Oh! GX characters. Most of the articles, should be merged, with the possible exception of Yu-Gi-Oh! GX minor characters. In addition, I'd think Chazz Princeton deserves his own article. However, notablity on Wikipedia is dependent on third party sources, so in reality, due to lack of sourcing, no GX character articles pass WP:N. I'd really suggest some discussion on this issue start, otherwise, I may end up AfDing some of the articles and then merging them. I know this project is jsut still starting out, but I really think this should be a priority. Thanks, Gavyn Sykes (talk) 18:55, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Absorbed as a WP:ANIME work group?

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Akiza Izinski up for deletion

An article related to Yu-Gi-Oh! is up for deletion. Akiza Izinski. After it, other characters on the template will probably be nominated as well, that usually how things work. Anyway, I thought someone familiar with the series should be informed. Dream Focus 09:54, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Harpies feather duster and forbidden cards

Does anybody think that we should make a page about them with pics? (Pikachu222 (talk) 22:22, 22 March 2010 (UTC))

YGO is a game, not about what sets r in which freaking country

i change the U.S. and Japan in the sets section to TCG and OCG respectively. who ever is the idiot who did classified into country should just die. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.9.235 (talk) 03:24, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Slashed Comment due to offensive nature. - TitusFox^'Tribs 06:38, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

so, i heard about this licensing thing

from a forum that i frequent, one forumer states that for one company to buy completely buy rights to a tile, they must pay the license fees for the animation, names, music and voice acting, which 4kids only pays for the animation(and make stupid edits to it).

So, what i trying to say is that, i feel that it is not right to use the dub names as it looks like censorship(well, it did hide the TRUE names), the dub names should be optional as 4kids, which mostly cause the weird edits to the 5ds area(the case where 4kids somehow go against the oringinal plot in around the 1st arc where the 4kids dub Rex Godwin said that the "Dragon Head" Signer arm belongs to him where the oringinal show does not say anything about that.)

so, i need you guys' opinions on whether the dub names should be removed, or make the oringinal name primary info and the dub names as secondary or optional. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.9.227 (talk) 13:42, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Updates to TV#MOS

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