Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Afghanistan/Archive 1

Please stop adding articles with a bot

If you can't be bothered to look at the article and decide whether or not it belongs in your project, then it doesn't belong.

The discussion page on the Salwar Kameez article is now littered with national flags from the numerous countries in South and Central Asia where the outfit is worn. Perhaps this suggests that items of clothing can't "belong" to any particular nation.

I wear salwar kameez and I live in Hawai'i. Should I put a Hawai'i sticker on the project? Zora 21:50, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Why do you think that Yazid I has any relevance to Afghanistan? Zora 07:13, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Why do you think that Battle of Karbala has any relevance to Afghanistan? --Sa.vakilian 10:51, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

This could be related to the above: Why is Sardar Bahadur Khan Women University now part of the project? The university is in Pakistan, not Afghanistan. Is there some kind of relationship to Afghanistan that's simply not discussed in the article, or is this a bot mistake? Beginning 19:11, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Please look at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#WikiProject_Scope. This project seems to have five participants and while that page is by no means policy I think you should only manually add the tag when you are working on an Afghanistan related article as part of the project. Once again: my opinion, not policy. gren グレン 02:08, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Wildlife of Afghanistan

Kindly contribute to this article when you get time, and request others too.

Thanks

Atulsnischal 13:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Useful Sources

I figured it might be a good idea to get together a list of good online sources of information about Afghanistan (since there aren't many to be honest).

• [1] Is quite useful for the 1992-1996 civil war. There's obviously a lot about human rights violations in there, but if you look around it reveals quite a bit of information about the military situation and participants.

--RaiderAspect 12:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

re Battle of Chains article/possible Copyright Violation

I have place a {{Copyvio}} notice on the above article, which has a Afghanistan Project template, as the author comments that he wrote it

"...word for word..."

from a website (see Talk:Battle of Chains). A Project Member may wish to discuss with the Administrator how to stop the article being deleted. I hope someone is able to help. LessHeard vanU 21:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Bilateral relations discussion

I would like to invite you all to participate in a discussion at this thread regarding bilateral relations between two countries. All articles related to foreign relations between countries are now under the scope of WikiProject Foreign relations, a newly created project. We hope that the discussion will result in a more clean and organized way of explaining such relationships. Thank you. Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 18:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Malalai Joya

Could someone more knowledgeable than me please take a look at Malalai Joya? There's been a ton of anon edits lately that strike me as potentially libelous or incorrect, but I really know nothing about it. I found the page on Random Article and started cleaning up some grammar and spelling and then found there's been a number of very dramatic POV edits lately. Thanks! - CredoFromStart 20:00, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

South Asian countries as a Wikipedia:Featured topic

The South Asian WikiProjects have been tremendously productive, which I congratulate you for, and I just wanted to let you know that we're very close to meeting the criteria for a Featured topic covering the countries of the region. Please see Wikipedia talk:Featured topics#Great potential for South Asian countries featured topic. Thanks.--Pharos 03:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Translation requests Afghan Scout Association

Can someone put this text File:Afghanistannamestrip.jpg into the organization name on the article Afghan Scout Association? It may be clearer as this File:Afghan Scout Association.jpg. Thanks, Chris 17:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Where do you exactly want to place it? In the opening, between the text? but it would be better to write the Pashto transcript in a simple font. Or would you like to place it in the infobox? -Ariana 18:33, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your quick response! And I did mean for it to be put in the text as a simple font, just I do not have that font. I would put it in the third sentence, where it reads "Da Afğānistān Zaranduy Tolanah (DAZT)", it should probably read "Da Afğānistān Zaranduy Tolanah (Pashto language:XXXXXX, DAZT)". Thank you again! Chris 18:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Here I inserted it. You might not be able to view the Z and T characters joint with their word because of not having the font, but the transcript is correct. -Ariana 18:49, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help!Chris 22:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

• Can someone please render Tayar Osay (Be Prepared), the Scout Motto, into Pashto script? Thanks! Chris 03:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

To do list for Wikipedia: WikiProject Afghanistan

Can someone please delete the items from this list which are not related to Afghanistan. I find it irritating to discover Hawaiian agricultural policy here and Ougadougou. Such chaos undermines the integrity of Wikipedia. I would delete it myself, but don't know how. --Ceboulon 10:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Durrani Castle

I am drawing your attention to the above, as it was created by a user with a history of dubious edits. I have just found his article on the fictional Scottish Lahey Castle, and I have no idea if Durrani Castle actually exists, but its probably worth checking. Thanks, Jonathan Oldenbuck 15:18, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

proper adjective?

Afghan, Afghani, Afghanistani. What are we choosing to use to describe people of Afghan nationality? Kingturtle 00:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

The correct term is Afghan. Afghani is the currency. MLA 15:49, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Hazarajat

The article with the above title has been nominated in Articles for Deletion; since this project was mentioned on the talk page, I thought it would be worthwhile to bring it to your attention for any contributions you may care to make. I am not taking a position on whether or not the article should be deleted and make no recommendations. Accounting4Taste:talk 01:47, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Input request: Afghan Civil War

Your ideas are welcome at: Talk:Afghan_Civil_War#What_needs_to_be_done.3F. Thanx to you. --victor falk (talk) 18:14, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I think it is not true that most of the Daikondi residents are Pashtuns. Most of the people who are living in Daikondi are Hazaras. Pashtuns and Hazaras are the same Afghans but it is better not to distort facts. Abdul —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.198.161.242 (talk) 19:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Category:Districts of Afghanistan split & templates

Hi all - I'm currently splitting this category by province (separate categories for each province's districts) and making navigational templates for each province's districts. I'm doing this because the category was partially split before, and because it had more than 200 articles. It was hard to find them. I hope they will be more neatly organized. If anyone has comments, suggestions, complaints, or ideas, please direct them to me on my talkpage. Cheers! Aelfthrytha (talk) 22:02, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Dervishes?

I notice that Dervish is considered to be part of this project. It would seem that it would fit less with Afghanistan than Iran (where the term came from) and sufism (where the practice originates from) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Deer (talk • contribs) 11:33, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Abdul Razzaq Hekmati

Abdul Razzaq Hekmati has the dubious distinction of being the first detainee to die of natural causes at Guantánamo.[2] Do we have an article on him already that I can't find? -- Kendrick7^talk 21:15, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm really just wondering if he is the same person as Abdullah Hekmat, but I know the similarity could be entirely coincidental -- first name is very common, last name seems at least semi-common. Anybody? -- Kendrick7^talk 06:57, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I just redirected Abdul Razzaq Hekmati. He was the Guantanamo captive known by the ID 942. Abdullah Hekmat is ID 670, a completely different person.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 23:14, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Bin Laden propaganda poster

The Osama bin Laden article has a photo of a propaganda poster with some writing on it. It would be very helpful if someone could identify the language (Pashto?) and translate it. The image is available at the Commons at Commons:Image:DN-SD-04-12769.jpg. Thanks. Dforest (talk) 06:06, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Jabbar Khel

I just added Jabbar Khel to this project since it appears to be a Pashtun tribe or klan with ties to Kabul. However a lot of sources came back Pakistan and what I know about this region unfortunately fits on the nose of a mosquito so I may have erred. If anyone can help expand that stub, it would be great. I removed a lot of irrelevant content and sources that didn't mention the subject but I'm stuck. TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 04:08, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Sassanid Empire

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"Coalition"

I ran across Coalition casualties in Afghanistan and wonder if there's a definition or article for this coaltion. Is it NATO or some other entity defined only for this conflict? --Tesscass (talk) 00:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Draft Guidelines for Lists of companies by country - Feedback Requested

Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 (talk) 18:40, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

CFD for provinces of Afghanistan

A discussion has been opened to determine which spelling to use for several provinces of Afghanistan. Please take a minute to share your views. Cgingold (talk) 10:05, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Creation of thousands of new articles about Afghanistan

Hello everyone! Currently a bot is being prepared to go on to create nearly 2 million articles of villages/cities/towns from all around the world. Afghanistan, being the first country on the list is the first to get that honour and after some tweaking it will go right ahead. However there currently is a dicussion going on at [3] and there are many opinions being held by a number of people. As you guys are going to be one of the first affected, it makes sense that anyone who has an oppinion about the creation of these articles to give an oppinion there. There has been 100 articles created as a trial run and if you are interested to look at those they can be found here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places/afghanistan/page1. Further information can be found here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places, User talk:Fritzpoll and of course the village pump link I gave initially. Thanks for your attention. Kind regards!Calaka (talk) 01:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Articles flagged for cleanup

Currently, 628 of the articles assigned to this project, or 25.8%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 18 June 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. Subsribing is easy - just add a template to your project page. If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 17:46, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

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LANG template

Please be aware of {{lang}}, for marking up non-English words or phrases. Thank you. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 22:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Afghanistan

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Khaliq Aziz

Hello, There is currently a deletion discussion for Khaliq Aziz an Afghan singer. I suspect there are RS for him out there, but I've not idea where. So I'm bringing it here. Thanks. Hobit (talk) 01:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Afghanistan articles missing geographic coordinates

Many articles about places in Afghanistan are missing geographic coordinates; you can find an up-to-date list of them in the category Category:Afghanistan articles missing geocoordinate data. There are currently 372 articles in that category.

By providing these articles with geographic coordinates, you can help other editors locate them on maps and in geographic information systems, and help readers find the articles more easily when using geographically-aware search systems such as Google Maps or location-aware GPS phone browsers.

These articles are currently marked with {{coord missing}} templates, which need replacing with filled in {{coord}} templates containing their latitude/longitude data. You can find out how to do this at the Wikipedia:Geocoding how-to for WikiProject members. Alternatively, if you have an appropriate infobox template that can use geographic coordinates, you can put the geographic coordinates into that, and remove the {{coord missing}} tag after you have done so. -- The Anome (talk) 14:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

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Should this be deleted?

Shkin is a very strange disambiguation page. Can we do without it? __meco (talk) 16:18, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Paktia Province and Paktika Province are different! --Enzuru 04:50, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Overhauling WikiProject Afghanistan

I'm overhauling the page with a new look, spreading out content, and insha'Allah will create some more templates as well as write much neeeded guidelines. Insha'Allah similiar changes will be done for WikiProject Pashtun. Please make any comments or criticisms here. --Enzuru 23:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

New templates created and updated on Wikipedia:WikiProject Afghanistan/Templates. We also have our own barnstar now to award exceptional members with. --Enzuru 00:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I am suggesting merges for Afghanistan years 2001 / 2002 / 2003 / 2004 . Any comments?

The page Timeline of the War in Afghanistan (2001–present) is a mismatch of different styles. However, I suggest that all months be moved into one year 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004. While I understand the idea behind the different months, two of the busiest years for Coalition forces in Afghanistan have been in 2006 and 2007 where the format was changed again. Comments on each years page!! Jez ☎ ✉ ✍ 20:32, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Any comment on this?? Jez t e C 12:10, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

As long as none of the data is removed or deleted through the process. Kingturtle (talk) 18:30, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I am fine with that, I commented and voiced my concern on Talk:Timeline of the War in Afghanistan (2001–present). --Enzuru 20:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Need Help

Hello Guys Can you guys please help me on article Abdul Rahim Sarban. I know Sarban and his family myself growing up with his music but i guess it would not be enough to delete the wrong info presented by anti-Afghans. I have added a video documentary Video from RTA Nation television of Afghanistan regarding this famous person. But guys please let me know i am not breaking any roles and that i did it right.

Thanks

Alishah85 (talk) 06:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Looks good, but we should start adding sources! --♥pashtun ismailiyya 06:47, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Dear Pashtun Ismailiyya I did added a source but its a video is it acceptable????, of course any Afghan would understand that if they watch it but again its not English and since people already tried to made up stuff regarding him by claiming it was a non-English source, this is far better then those mystery unaccessible sources. BUT I was wondering its Youtube is that OK? Can you please include it in your watch list, see if any conflict rises regarding his origin. thanks

Alishah85 (talk) 16:31, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the link is a very good one brother. I'll put it on my watchlist. --♥pashtun ismailiyya 20:07, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Dear pashtun I am very sure you might of knowing this, that Khalilullah Khalili. Was one of the best poets Afghanistan had ever produced in the last 60 years and indeed we had many in the past, but Khalilullah Khalili is special many on us grow up with his poems and teaching of loving Afghan-land, he had showed us ways of good and bad and all his view through his poetry, something that can only be words of a good muslim. like Al Afghani, etc etc. Now Having said that. Can you please have a look at the article changed by one of the users named "Tajik" I am not sure what his massage is but the article he represents has little information, on exactly who he was. He has RV what i had changed and he opened a talk, now can you help me out please. Because I think i had presented many links to almost that i have wrote, and everything I wrote is very much of a Fact. Where as this guy has little information on his backround, also the article which he supports has alot of misleadings/Mistakes and most important part of all He was a Pashtun clan from both Parents as you can read the sources and article which i changed yesterday. Now if I rv wouldn't that be violate Wikipedia policy, simply because I am trying to fix up things which anti-Afghans had missed around with? Please let me know what to do, or show me the way which i can present my views and source to make sure nothing goes wrong.

Thanks

Alishah85 (talk) 22:02, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Dear pashtun ismailiyya I have made few changes with Khalilullah Khalili with the references i hope its enough and not changed because I have his book where he bravely the pride of being Pashtun etc etc something which Amaniuallh never had etc etc. clearly every Afghan knows his origin but i think its hard for Iranians and non-Afghans who might have read his poems and assume they may belong to other unknown groups. Anyways Do you suggest i should make a reference or maybe I can scan the pages I don't know about that because it may violent copy right laws. However I have another article which i bought for $3.98, dated to be from 1992 newspaper article, again it mentioned some important issues. However i am not allowed to post the article because its violating their copyright. Now can i mention the link? because again people need to buy it in order to view it. Also have a look at http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE6DF113CF937A25756C0A961948260 this is free please read the bottom of the article where it gives us a little information of his offsprings of to make sure i have done the English part right. If you want you can use the source and i shell provide it to you

thanks.

bye

Alishah85 (talk) 22:23, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Afghanistan

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What the communists did in Afghanistan

Afghan related articles needs more information about what the communist did in Afghanistan. While most of its work has been forgotten thanks to its collapse in 1992 and Mujahideen and Taliban forces destroying much of the infrastructure they buildt. It must be understood that the communists did many great and good things for Afghanistan. For example, during the Daoud's Republic of Afghanistan their were only 5 kindergartens in the whole country, in 1991 there were 400 kindergartens in Afghanistan. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/feb/26/afghanistan.comment) The DRA and PDPA had many other accomplishments, such as when it came to education, law enforcements etc.... They did a great deal and its not mentioned thanks to this American and Afghan anti-communist biaz.

Just as this is clear, i'm not a communist. But my point is that we can't forget all the good things they did for this country, they did alot. They accomplished much more then what the Afghan government did from 1919-1973. Can we please discuss this? --Im a Socialist! What Are You (talk) 14:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

WP:NOT#PLOT

Apologies for the notice, but this is being posted to every WikiProject to avoid accusations of systemic bias. Hiding T 13:19, 27 April 2009 (UTC)