Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation pages with links

Latest comment: 9 days ago by JamesMLane in topic New York

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    Is there any way to mark these? I.e. the muslim name Abd al-Rahman and its redirects have a large number of links that should go to specific people with the name. I tried posting at Wikipedia:WikiProject Bluelink patrol but that seems to be a one-person project and I got no response. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

    No, but there should be! Many (but not all) surname pages are essentially a dab listing people who are legitimate targets for incoming links; they contain little information about the actual name and incoming links are rarely correct. Other non-dabs such as ship SIAs have a similar problem: anyone linking to HMS Acasta probably intended a particular ship rather than the list. (WP:BPAT still does useful work, not all of which is listed on its project page, but only has two or three regularly active menbers.) Certes (talk) 23:18, 26 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
    One thing that DPL could definitely target is links to pages in Category:Redirects from incomplete disambiguation. These are fairly common and should be fixed even if the target is a set index or list rather than a disambig. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:00, 1 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
    This query may be interesting, though the categorisation of some redirects there as "from incomplete disambiguation" is at best borderline . For example, Athletics (sport), a redirect to Sport of athletics, has nearly 10,000 incoming links which may well be correct. Certes (talk) 15:13, 1 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
    Yes, the category is unfortunately very inconsistently applied. For example, most all the entries for <year>_Akron_football_team should not be in this category, but likely should use either {{R from incorrect disambiguation}} or {{R from other disambiguation}}. But even experts at redirect templates, such as Paine Ellsworth will use {{R from incomplete disambiguation}} on redirects such as this. olderwiser 15:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

    Template:Extrajudicial killings in the World

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    Could someone who is good with templates take a look at a template labelled, on 20+ pages, as "Extrajudicial killings in the World". When you try to view or edit the link goes to Template:World topic. It links to several dab pages & several link to "Extrajudicial killing#country name" which are circular links. Help appreciated.— Rod talk 08:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

    Extrajudicial killing, etc., use {{World topic|prefix=Extrajudicial killings in}}, so the VTE links go to the right template. (Extrajudicial killings in the World redirects there, presumably due to the rarity of extrajudicial killings in space.) I'm not sure how useful this navbox is. We have no actual articles called Extrajudicial killings in Fooland, the nearest being Extrajudicial killings and forced disappearances in the Philippines. Most entries are redlinks. As you say, the rest are dabs or redirects to sections, mainly to the one article Extrajudicial killing#Fooland. We could simply remove the navbox. Certes (talk) 13:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

    Ayn Ghazal

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    I recently turned Ayn Ghazal into a disambiguation page, and it's now tagged as having many incoming links. The thing is, I think I fixed them all more than 24 hours ago (I missed some nested templates, but others got them). Is it normal for the job queue to take this long to update the list of what links there? Or am I missing something? – Joe (talk) 21:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

    @Joe Roe: Special:WhatLinksHere/Ayn Ghazal has a few incoming links from mainspace articles to redirects to that page. I think they're not being automatically detected because they're redirects. Would you mind checking it out? --Un assiolo (talk) 22:45, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
    They weren't caught because they were wrapped in templates like {{main}}. Think I got them all now. – Joe (talk) 07:42, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
    @Joe Roe: Template:Editnotices/Page/Ayn Ghazal needs to be moved, presumably without leaving a redirect. Or create a new one for the moved article, I don't know if it applies to disambiguation pages. --Un assiolo (talk) 15:35, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

    Euclid Network

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    Could someone take a look at Euclid Network. Ths edit with the edit summary "Attempted (poorly) to add a brief disambiguation for the business,.." added the disambiguation banner, but it doesn't seem like a dab page to me & I am not sure what they were trying to achieve.— Rod talk 18:58, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

    I've just rolled that edit back entirely - it's trying to hijack the article inappropiately. I wonder whether either subject is actually notable, though. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

    New York

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    In editing Kenneth Chesebro, I made a link to New York, not realizing it was a dab page. The bot came along and disambiguated it, but incorrectly, by linking to New York City instead of to New York (state).

    I've now corrected the link. I write to call the Project's attention to a possibly recurring problem. With something like "New York", it's probably impossible for a bot to figure out whether the editor meant the city or the state. JamesMLane t c 14:29, 1 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

    Cnwilliams is not a bot. They're a human using semi-automated tools and, like all humans including myself, sometimes make mistakes. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
    Yes my mistake. I should have realised it was the State and not the City, but I had just corrected a few others that were definitely the City and the tool I use does suggest the same change as the previous one made. Cnwilliams (talk) 16:06, 1 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
    Thanks for the explanation! I see you're from the UK -- I don't know how many Americans, let alone foreigners, understand that attorney licensing in the U.S. is by state governments (not federal and not municipality). JamesMLane t c 18:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)Reply