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Malaysia

Istiadat Pewaris Penjurit-Kepetangan Melayu

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The article is poorly written - possibly machine translated from the mswiki article, with a number of longstanding issues that have not been fixed. In addition, my online WP:BEFORE searches showed no significant coverage of the topic in reliable sources - had the topic been notable, I would have expected some mention, somewhere on the Internet. Also, the references in the article seem to be tangential to the topic rather than directly pertinent, though I have not gone through them in exhaustive depth. See also this edit summary by Jdcooper, stating that, even after some tidying up on their part, the article is "still original research, lacking sources, possible WP:COPYVIO". I propose a Redirect to Silat, with the option of unredirecting in the future if a better referenced/written article were to come to light. SunloungerFrog (talk) 15:52, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Seems like either a POV fork of Silat or an article about an organization within Silat but the language is so tortured I'm not sure which. Possibly some WP:SYNTH attempt to establish an org as being the true lineage of Silat. Regardless it's not well sourced and doesn't seem novel enough form the parent article to justify the fork. Simonm223 (talk) 16:18, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Silat, just in case it is a genuine search term. Jdcooper (talk) 21:45, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TNT. Clearly machine learning generated; one of the “references” is a genealogy chart of a person involved, which is a classic coatrack. It’s a long name, so unlikely to be used as a search term. Bearian (talk) 13:48, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mahsuri National Secondary School

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 15:43, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of schools in Kedah. It is in that list under the name SMK Mahsuri (currently a redirect to Mahsuri National Secondary School) which is the school's acronym name.4meter4 (talk) 19:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ong Kai Jin, did you check any of the local news sources with the non-English name, such as this one? Although I don't read the local language myself, I am finding enough sources about this school that I am reluctant to redirect it. Since this is the equivalent of a large public high school in the American educational system, it is perhaps not surprising that these news sources exist, and I would expect to find official reports and other reliable sources as well. When the school is located in a non-English-speaking country, searching for its translated name is really not an adequate WP:BEFORE search. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The news were about principal thanking a company for gifting glasses to students among interviews of others,^[1] some of the individual achievements,^[2]^[3]^[4] a teacher's own fund to help the needed,^[5] two students got a helicopter ride under a government syndicate's initiative,^[6] a road accident which mentioned about a mother was sending child to school,^[7] an individual interview,^[8] an announcement by a company to execute a project with schools^[9] and an award for being a teacher figure in the district.^[10]

Those featuring individual achievements and interviews should be disregarded as the school is not inherent of the notability per WP:INHERITORG, and the remaining did not provide in-depth coverage or facts for the school itself. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 04:32, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Any source that contains any in-depth coverage about the school itself should be counted. Some editors prefer the Wikipedia:One hundred words standard for "in depth". The point is, those 100 words have to be about the school.

If you have a source that says "Aisha is a very smart student. She won the city contest for most artistic fruit display. She lives at home with her parents, grandmother, and older brother. Her grandmother taught her how to cut fruit decoratively. She attends the Mahsuri National Secondary School", then that suggests (weak) notability for Aisha, but not her school.

However, if you have a source that says all of that, plus it has several sentences about the school, then the part of the source about the school (but not the part about the student) counts towards notability for the school. It is not about being "inherent of the notability". WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:25, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Asri, Suliati (2021-09-27). "Tingkat fokus pelajar". Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.
^ Osman, Hamzah (2021-07-01). "Nota ringkas bantu Mohamad Hafiz cemerlang STPM". Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.
^ Osman, Hamzah (2020-03-05). "'Mahsuri' dapat 10A". Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.
^ Osman, Hamzah (2017-03-16). "Pulut kuning untuk pelajar cemerlang [METROTV]". Berita Harian. Archived from the original on 2017-03-20. Retrieved 2024-11-29.
^ Osman, Hamzah (2020-03-22). "Projek mulia Geng Cikgu, rakan-rakan". Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.
^ Osman, Hamzah (2020-02-02). "Bertuahnya kamu dik [METROTV]". Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.
^ Osman, Hamzah (2019-03-16). "Cuma lima saat..." Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.
^ Osman, Hamzah (2017-11-07). "Tahan sakit jawab soalan". Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.
^ Osman, Hamzah (2017-08-20). "i-Muamalat Mobile beri kemudahan 500,000 pelanggan". Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.
^ Osman, Hamzah (2017-03-16). "Ikhlas jadi pendidik". Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.

Keep - Per WhatamIdoing, and adding that as well as SMK Mahsuri (which turns up plenty including some research and book mentions) there are also articles showing for "Mahsuri Secondary" "Langkawi" [1] and presumably other variations. This is one of 22 nominations that were made on the same day, each minutes apart. I do not believe there was time for an adequate WP:BEFORE and my presumption based on sources that show up, and on the nature, size and age of this school, is that it is notable. I have not researched each source more deeply as the size of the task with 22 schools is prohibitive. The SCHOOLOUTCOMES RfC close discouraged mass nomination of schools simply because the guideline had changed, and there is no better deletion rationale here as to why these should be deleted. Barring a source analysis that discounts all the sources that prima facie show notability, I think this should be kept Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 20:06, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just false returns. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 04:36, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WhatamIdoing, I meant the school does not inherit notability just because any of its students or teachers got featured on news, examples were clear in WP:INHERITORG. They would also fail to be included under lists along with each of their achievements since they are not notable by themselves. WP:WPSCHOOLS/AG#OS advised that specific students should not be mentioned unless they are notable by their own right, and individual awards should not be listed. WP:WPSCHOOLS/AG#WNTI also advised not to mention individual pupils or teachers. After excluding them, I do not believe these are contextualizable in the article:
In 2017, Bank Mualamat announced to launch MyDebit with the school. In 2019, a mother witnessed a car accident while sending her children to the school. In 2020, two students of the school got a helicopter ride under a syndicate's program. In 2021, Tenaga Nasional Berhad contributed 25 glasses for the students.
I would some of these news have one sentence about the school, even there is some, most of them did not provide relevant facts about the school itself. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 14:50, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ma'ahad Muhammadi Lelaki

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 15:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Procedural Keep - This is one of a string of nominations made minutes apart with exactly the same rationale. I do not believe a WP:BEFORE has been carried out. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 22:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I could not find coverage to meet WP:NSCHOOL. LibStar (talk) 08:45, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@LibStar, how did you search for sources? For example, did you search for English-language sources or for Arabic-language ones? WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:13, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I searched in Google news for Arabic and English names. Only gets 1 hit for Arabic name. LibStar (talk) 22:09, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In my experience, some of the best sources for schools are local newspapers (which are often not shown in Google News) and government reports. Did you do anything to look for those? WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:34, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did you? Local newspapers do not meet WP:AUD. LibStar (talk) 03:34, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@LibStar, first, AUD only requires one (1) non-local newspaper, and by "non-local", we mean "small town", not "media outlet serving a market with nearly two million people in it". Local newspapers count for all purposes except for proving that someone outside of Smallville paid attention to the meeting of the Smallville Local Club.

Second, non-profit and government-run schools don't have to comply with AUD or any other part of NCORP at all, because NCORP says that they can qualify under the GNG. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:57, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural keep per Sirfurboy or possible keep per WP:SIGCOV. Google books has a lot of hits in Malay language sources with coverage of the school. Whether they contain WP:SIGCOV I can't tell because I can't read them.4meter4 (talk) 04:31, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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English College Johore Bahru

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 14:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - This is one of a string of nominations made minutes apart with exactly the same rationale. I do not believe a WP:BEFORE has been carried out on what looks to be an old and historical school, reasonably well referenced and with a clear prima facie claim to notability. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 21:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Nonsense to be deleted. Its a historical school with well referenced in Malaysia history. Mrpresidentfaris (talk) 07:15, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A search of "maktab sultan abu bakar" OR "english college" site:nst.com.my OR site:hmetro.com.my OR site:thestar.com.my OR site:malaysiakini.com OR site:freemalaysiatoday.com on Google provided very limited in-depth coverage about the school itself. The existing reliable source citations in the current article only addressed on a centenary celebration so nothing in this article directly established notability, and the history section have been failing WP:V for years. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 22:24, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep: This gives a brief history from New Straits Times, but, as pointed out above, the sources aren't the best. Despite that, I think there's just enough to make this notable. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 04:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cempaka Schools

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 14:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - I don't believe a WP:BEFORE was carried out on this prima facie rather notable school. This is one of a large number of nominations made with the same rationale just minutes apart. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 21:54, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A search of "cempaka schools" site:freemalaysiatoday.com OR site:hmetro.com.my OR site:thestar.com.my on Google did not provide in-depth coverage as these news centrifugally addressing about the school which the school facts is very limited. The current article is fully a WP:BROCHURE. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 20:59, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Appears to be nonsense. Of the many sources already on the page, there are some that speak strongly to notability:
1. "Cempaka Schools bags World Cup trophy". The Star. 29 May 2013. Retrieved 2021-11-07. The school has repeatedly won trophies at the notable World Education Games. National news report.
2. Factsheet confirming the school's dominance in some sections [2]
3. More national news reporting on another matter [3]
4. And more [4]
5. Guinness World Record attempt [5]
6. Not sure if this one is independent, but has a little history of the school [6]
And that is just what is on the page already. Note that the first of those, among others, calls this "Cempaka School" (no final s). Searching news that way shows up some more hits. It also gets mentioned in a large number of books. Malaysian Who's Who has listings for former pupils too. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 21:21, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bukit Mewah National Secondary School

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 13:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Procedural keep - Tbh I would usually be starting at delete on this one and trying to disprove my assumption, but this is one of multiple nominations all nominated within minutes of each other without any evidence of a deletion rationale or a WP:BEFORE. Looking at the others, many seem fairly obvious keeps with minimal searching. Searching takes a lot of time, and I don't see the case is made that this time be spent. I think we should procedurally keep this one, without prejudice against a renomination by anyone (without the usual six month stand off) who has spent sufficient time looking at the issue to write a fuller deletion rationale. Or just close it as no consensus. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:49, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: There are only three sources that mention this school and all of them are simply made in passing[7][8][9]. There's no WP:SIGCOV that would justify this article's existence. - Ratnahastin (talk) 02:54, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: There is no references and fails to meet WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage. 1keyhole (talk) 22:28, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Issues of notability, among others, has been tagging for years with unimprovement. This school may have the largest count of students in its state by a 2022 data. A search of "bukit mewah" AND "school OR sekolah OR smk" on Google did not provide any relevant news. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 20:15, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ong Kai Jin, boolean search doesn't work on google, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't work on google news, either. -- asilvering (talk) 04:31, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And if it did, "school OR sekolah OR smk" is searching for that exact string and not boolean operators. Not surprising that showed nothing. Also to note, this !vote is by the nominator. Nominators vote is assumed and need not be stated. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:22, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It worked and for both. What I meant was that the results of news were unrelatable. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 15:06, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - News: [10], [11], [12], [13]. Arguably WP:MILL but if you are not finding this stuff you are not searching properly. It gets two full pages in the book Improving Schools (2014).[14] However that appears to be self published. Despite being self published, the two pages refer to a published newspaper letter in the Star and as we haven't yet found that, searches are clearly not gathering all the information. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:43, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I helped you, that turned out to be a self-submitted article. [15] I then assume it is a book of compilation of own submission. For your information, The Star often excluded from Google's news tab search results because they usually locks old articles. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 15:43, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not just WP:MILL, individual achievements are not inclusive of article per WP:WPSCHOOLS/AG#OS. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 15:53, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A search of "bukit mewah" school OR sekolah OR smk site:thestar.com.my OR site:nst.com.my on Google should work the best or a search of "smk bukit mewah" OR "bukit mewah secondary" site:thestar.com.my OR site:nst.com.my on Google should be more precise. Still, individual interviews, individual achievements and that person's own submission. I do not think a news on a debate national-champion is enough. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 19:23, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmad Boestamam National Secondary School

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 13:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - I don't think there is sufficient deletion rationale. This editor has nominated a large number of schools quickly, and this one turns up multiple hits in Google books. A WP:BEFORE does not seem to have been carried out and there is no engagement with the quality of the sourcing that is evident. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:51, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: there is no significant coverage so fails to meet WP:GNG and I could find no new relible sources either.

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Delete: There's no significant coverage about this school in reliable and secondary sources. - Ratnahastin (talk) 02:55, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. A search of search of "ahmad boestamam" AND "school OR sekolah OR smk" on Google did not show any relevant news. Redirect for at least saving its very early Page ID. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 19:17, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of schools in Perak. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 19:20, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Have people actually tried searching under its name "Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Ahmad Boestamam" or more commonly abbreviated "SMK Ahmad Boestamam". I seriously can't people didn't find sources as the first thing that popped up in google was this journal article. There's also this [16], and coverage in this. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:41, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I doubt what are these for. Did they provide facts for the purpose of WP:V? Would they be put into context as primary source? Ong Kai Jin (talk) 16:20, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Melissa Tan

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Other than winning the national Miss Universe in 2006, nothing of note can be found on her since then. – robertsky (talk) 03:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. We certainly don't have to accept this because it is just an essay, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Beauty Pageants/Notability (beauty pageant participants) states that national pageant winners in the big four pageants (of which Miss Universe is one) are generally presumed to be notable. Meaning that its likely WP:SIGCOV exists. Given the year she won, it is possible the coverage was more offline than online as it was in the weird time period where everything hadn't yet shifted over even though the internet was up and running. Best.4meter4 (talk) 03:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well... I tried doing WP:BEFORE through wikipedia library, and could only find two articles in 2007:
- Civic thrill for beauty queen: [New Sunday Times Edition]
Summary: About her purchase of Honda Civic.
- Celeb style [Malay Mail]
Summary: Interview about her fashion style.
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I’m not surprised. The pageant would have not been covered in the UK or the United States but would have been covered in Southeast Asia. The best sources are probably offline (at that time; maybe digitized now?) newspapers in Malaysia, and I don’t believe most are available through The Wikipedia Library.4meter4 (talk) 05:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above two articles were accessed through ProQuest in The Wikipedia Library and are from the two of the major newspapers in the country at that time. – robertsky (talk) 06:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and they are both English sources which tends to cover a different type of content scope targeted more toward English speaking expats. I would expect better coverage in the Maylay language papers.4meter4 (talk) 06:14, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Passes WP:NBEAUTY. However, according to 4meter4, while she won in 2006 and media coverage may not have been as active at the time, it is likely that most of the coverage was offline. I have found a supporting reference here: China Daily, which cites Reuters as the original source.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 13:01, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Does this individual work in the fashion industry now? [17], [18], there's some mention of a fashion model in these sources. Oaktree b (talk) 00:55, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wawa Zainal (via WP:PROD on 9 September 2023)

[1] Asri, Suliati (2021-09-27). "Tingkat fokus pelajar". Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.

[2] Osman, Hamzah (2021-07-01). "Nota ringkas bantu Mohamad Hafiz cemerlang STPM". Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.

[3] Osman, Hamzah (2020-03-05). "'Mahsuri' dapat 10A". Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.

[4] Osman, Hamzah (2017-03-16). "Pulut kuning untuk pelajar cemerlang [METROTV]". Berita Harian. Archived from the original on 2017-03-20. Retrieved 2024-11-29.

[5] Osman, Hamzah (2020-03-22). "Projek mulia Geng Cikgu, rakan-rakan". Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.

[6] Osman, Hamzah (2020-02-02). "Bertuahnya kamu dik [METROTV]". Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.

[7] Osman, Hamzah (2019-03-16). "Cuma lima saat..." Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.

[8] Osman, Hamzah (2017-11-07). "Tahan sakit jawab soalan". Berita Harian. Retrieved 2024-11-29.

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