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Judith Mok

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Tagged for sourcing issues since 2006. Not clear the subject meets WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 00:13, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Bands and musicians, Women, Poetry, Ireland, and Netherlands. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep Finding sources was really easy for this person, they have multiple books with multiple reviews, and numerous interviews. I removed a lot of the material that I couldn't find sources for other than her website and CV. Dr vulpes (Talk) 03:57, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After rereading that I wanted to clarify that I'm not being snippy with @4meter4 I'm just so used to having to do deep dives into archives at AfD that this was a welcome change of pace. Dr vulpes (Talk) 04:09, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Dennehy

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Non-notable amateur sports person. In terms of WP:SPORTBASIC, the only coverage I can find is the stuff that I've added to the article. Most of which is not independent (like "listings" on personnel sheets of orgs with which the subject has a connection like these: [1][2][3]; Which, even if they were independent, are far from in-depth coverage). Or ROTM "match report" type passing mentions (like these: [4] [5]). In terms of WP:GNG, we barely have enough sources to establish even the sub-stub that we have. And certainly insufficient sources to expand any biographical information (DOB, place of birth, education, etc). A search in Irish news sources returns little to nothing. In the Irish Independent family of regional/national papers for example, all I can find are these two trivial passing mentions. Similar searches, in news sources like the Irish Examiner or Irish Times or RTE.ie, return nothing at all. Nothing. Not even trivial passing mentions. Notability is not established. Guliolopez (talk) 11:31, 17 September 2024 (UTC) Guliolopez (talk) 11:31, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 11:38, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 11:38, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:50, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I know nothing about how significant American football is in Ireland. That said, being one of the initial inductees into the Hall of Fame for American football in Ireland suggests he was at a minimum a pretty big frog in a little pond. Cbl62 (talk) 20:38, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Felix Goddard

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Fails WP:GNG, no significant coverage, just stats/routine news. Giant Snowman 19:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 19:54, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It’s got significant coverage from what I can see. Stop pointlessly tagging pages for deletion - becoming quite pathetic now. 2A06:5902:180C:5800:59C9:B142:4513:9C80 (talk) 19:59, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stop editing from your IP, EnglishDude. Giant Snowman 17:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I see at least one example of WP:SIGCOV in a reliable source (Straits Times - ironically it's from the very beginning of his career) and that's enough combined with other coverage for a WP:NSPORT pass. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:50, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One source is not enough. Giant Snowman 17:48, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is for WP:NSPORT. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:58, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Incorrect - it says that "an athlete is likely to have received significant coverage in multiple secondary sources" (my emphasis). Giant Snowman 18:06, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. Meeting this requirement alone does not indicate notability, but it does indicate that there are likely sufficient sources to merit a stand-alone article." Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"at least one" - and that even doing that "does not indicate notability". Giant Snowman 20:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, Singapore, Germany, Ireland, and England. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:40, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Not seeing enough coverage. One article from the Strait Times mentioned above is not enough. Simione001 (talk) 00:46, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NSPORT is a little looser than WP:GNG. Unlike with GNG, "Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources." Combine the one article with the extensive non-SIGCOV available, it's a pass on the SNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:36, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Sufficiently referenced to pass in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amar Abba

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No secondary sources, unacceptable for a BLP. Per WP:PRIMARY: "do not base an entire article on primary sources" - this is particularly important for BLPs. Fails WP:BASIC as lacking "significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject". AusLondonder (talk) 08:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Belarus, Ireland, Russia, and United Kingdom. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:38, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Entirely based on primary sources. Ambassadors are not inherently notable. LibStar (talk) 09:28, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daon, Inc.

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Fails to meet WP:NCORP. Sources are all trivial mentions of the company. Brandon (talk) 15:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies, Software, and Ireland. Brandon (talk) 15:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Comment~~. I haven't yet completed a full WP:BEFORE (to establish whether there are other/independent/reliable sources "out there" which can establish notability and support the text). But, per nom, the sources within the article are far from ideal. Being either trivial passing mentions (where the industry news coverage is substantially about something else and the subject org is barely mentioned in passing). Or sources which are far from independent (company press releases, promotional webpages from partner companies, interviews with the company CEO, etc). To establish notability of this (250 person? 11 million turnover?) company... Guliolopez (talk) 13:01, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I have now undertaken a more complete WP:BEFORE. And have identified and added more than a few examples of independent, reliable and verifiable news sources. Including the Irish Times, Irish Independent and New York Times. The latter two dealing with the 2006 appointment of Tom Ridge and sales wins (around the same time) in US airport security use cases. While, at time of nom, the article was almost entirely based on primary sources, press releases and ROTM business news coverage, that is no longer the case. Guliolopez (talk) 13:52, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 18:38, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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