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Tajik

Prior SSP or RFCU cases may exist for this user:

Report date June 9 2009, 03:10 (UTC)
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Suspected sockpuppets
Evidence submitted by Self Image

Tajik was indef banned but some how allowed back under strict sanctions that he not engage in edit-war nor make more than one (1) revert. [1]

According to Tajik's history, he has been edit-warring on articles relating to Afghan-Persia-Central Asia since 2005 but now that his ban was lifted all of a sudden he stops editing except for some small touch ups here and there. It's very likely that he's using the above sockpuppets to spread his usual Pro-Iranian Shia POVs and edit-warring with Kurds, Pashtuns and other Sunnis, his old trick so he doesn't get detected. See the similarities [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]

Using all 3 names, Alefbe, Kurdo777, Izady, he leaves comments on a talk page so other editors think that there are a bunch of pro-Iranian editors working together, so that way those who differ with them will get scared and leave. [7] Still not convinced? Tajik is known to skip one space when leaving a message on talk pages so compare these two diffs carefully. Tajik, Kurdo777

Several editors who know Tajik also believe he is using the above sockpuppets in disruptive ways. [8] [9] [10] Self Image (talk) 03:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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CheckUser requests
Checkuser request – code letter: A (Arbcom ban/sanction evasion )
Current status –   Completed: Reviewed by a Checkuser, results and comments are below.    Requested by Self Image (talk) 03:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC) [reply]



Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

  Clerk declined Seems too obvious for CU. An admin should take action soon. — Jake Wartenberg 14:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  Clerk endorsed — Jake Wartenberg 14:16, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  Clerk note: A report to assist in the investigation is available here. — Jake Wartenberg 14:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusions

-- Avi (talk) 05:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please also check if Shahin Giray (talk · contribs) has any connection with the above accounts? He is engaged in the same POV editing as Kurdo777 (talk · contribs) in the articles about Azerbaijani khanates. Grandmaster 11:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I consider it a strong possibility that Kurdo777 and the others are not Tajik but Beh-nam. Thatcher 14:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Did you see this? It clearly suggests that Tajik who is in Germany is behind them. Beh-nam is in Canada however. Tajik has a way of logging from Germany into a UK server. I don't understand why is Tajik protected so much by you guys? It's not like he never used socks before cause he sure did, see these: User:German-Orientalist, User:Al-Fanā, User:DerDoc, User:KabuliTajik and User:Padmanii. The level of English Tajik, Kurdo777 and other socks I've listed write on talk pages is the same. Beh-nam's level of English was different, that of a teenager. Last hint: Tajik is known for not leaving comments here on CU's but instead he argues on other people's talk pages like how he is doing now.--Self Image (talk) 15:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Whilst it is certainly possible that any editor can be a sock of User:Tajik, the fact that these editors contradict their essential goals makes this all the more funny, and although they all write English awkwardly it's in a completely different manner. Izady, an actual academic (look up the name), barely can work his way around Wikipedia and espouses Kurdish revisionism. Kurdo had focused on articles dealing with Iranian peoples, the opposite of Izady. Tajik was not similar at all focusing more on Persian speakers than the unity of Iranian peoples, rarely if ever editing articles relating to Kurds. Even if they are all the same individual, they are so highly uncoordinated that they don't do a very good job at achieving whatever vague goal all the users in hand have in common. In addition, it wasn't so long ago that I was also accused of being a sockpuppet of Tajik, even though I've called him a pan-Iranist, reverted his edits, and called into question his WP:GF on several occasions in a distant past. These accusations seem more of a danger to articles on Wikipedia than these supposed sockpuppets. --Afghana [talk] 16:02, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The accounts associated with Kurdo do not match Tajik in either of the respects mentioned by Self Image. Thatcher 17:50, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The accounts associated with Kurdo777 appear to be connected to Tajik's ISP. You see the ultimate proof now? Tajik's IP is blocked from logging on so I think he emailed his top buddy User:Afghana a.k.a User:Enzuru and User:Pashtun Ismailiyya to argue on his behalf. Afghana can't deny knowing Tajik because she left so many comments and messages on Tajik's talk page.[11] The bottom line is why Tajik doesn't comment here and all of a sudden he stopped editing after Kurdo777's IPs were blocked?--Self Image (talk) 00:23, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sigh, someone should have checked the reporter of this SPI as well... Blocked, sock of NisarKand. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 02:18, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(<-)I've unblocked one of Kurdo's accounts and redirected the others to it. We no longer think he is a Ben-ham sockpuppet, but 10 accounts is too many. -- Avi (talk) 03:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  This case has been marked as closed. It has been archived automatically.
10 August 2010
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Evidence submitted by Kaddoo
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Since 2006 user: Tajik has been heavily promoting "Tajik", "Iran" and "Persian" in Afghanistan related articles, he has been constantly avoiding "Pashtun" and "Afghan", forcing his own POV by claiming that Ghurid dynasty were Tajiks.[12] ironically, these sets of IPs not only edit the same exact articles as Tajik but they match Tajik's personal views perfectly. [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20] The IPs usually curse Pashtun people in Farsi language, calling them Kussmadar (mother f...ers), faisha e Pashtun (Pashtun prostitute), Awghul (Afghan sh_t or Afghan donkey), Pashtun Kharkusszai (Pashtun son of a jack ass), and alot of other racist nonsense which doesn't belong in Wikipedia. [21], [22] This IP (82.83.133.122) is self-evidence that Tajik is behind it. [23], [24], [25], [26], [27], [28], [29]

Tajik is trying to change his typing style to avoid checkuser detection. Tajik and the IPs constantly edit the same isolated articles, and they involve similar racist anti-Pashtun views. [30] I believe that since Tajik is under one revert per page per week [31], he decided to use the annon IPs to edit-war and attack other editors so that his main user name doesn't get involved. Here you can see Tajik is replying to his recent IP messages, trying to act as two separate Afghan experts but both Tajik and the IPs are located in the same exact location. Please compare this, this, and this with Tajik's proven 82.83.133.122 IP location. Btw, User:Al-Fanā, User:German-Orientalist, User:Germany2008, User:Tajik-Professor, User:Šāhzādé and User:Draco of Utopia are all blocked sockpuppets used by the same listed IPs and Tajik. You can easily notice this by the comments he leaves behind in the edit-summaries, which are all identical. Kaddoo (talk) 02:24, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
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  Clerk endorsed –MuZemike 19:14, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Checkuser cannot prove a negative, but I am almost totally certain that these accounts are   Unrelated to Tajik (talk · contribs). J.delanoygabsadds 18:16, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is that because Tajik's location or ISP (claimed on his user page being in Germany) is different from the annon IPs, which is also in the same area? The IP mentioned this: ..."He sometimes uses other IP´s through IP HIde program and...", the IP is trying to explain about proxy service sites, which are made to help users hide their IP with a false one from a different location. It's likely he is using them which are very simple to use by anyone. This latest edit further suggests that Tajik and the IP maybe the same person. How about telling us if whether or not the IP is used by Tajik?--Kaddoo (talk) 20:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, but the checkuser policy says that "It is undesirable to link an IP to a named account" and most checkusers will decline to do so because of this. TNXMan 20:59, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
10 June 2011
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Judging from his edits, he is very familiar with Wikipedia and it's members. As an IP, he goes directly to the same admin who banned him and posts This. Also, the first edit he makes with his new user name is at KingTurtle's talk page as well [32]. Than he goes to the following user's talk page and writes "OK, I am back. :-)" - that clearly means he was an existing user and now he is back. His editing pattern and arguments at the Talk:Ghurid Dynasty article is very similar to that of banned user Tajik.

For more information, refer to Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Tajik. You will be able to find a list of similar banned IPs and more information related to user Tajik. Ketabtoon (talk) 15:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
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All of the named accounts are   Stale and checkuser does not generally disclose connections between named accounts and IPs. TNXMan 15:51, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Below is the evidence that clearly and convincingly establishes that the IP and Lysozy is in the banned user:Tajik:
  1. At exactly the same time (02:12-3) on February 15, 2011, User:Kingturtle blocked both (User:Lysozym[33] and User:Tajik[34]), now this cannot be a coincident.
  2. Lysozy edits the same articles that Tajik always edited and with the same identical POV.
  3. According to this previous result, Admin Dmcdevit states:   Confirmed as Tajik: Al-Fanā and the various 82.83.0.0/16 IPs editing here.
  4. Here, Admin Dmcdevit states: There is no need for a CheckUser. The user editing with an IP already, and the IP resolves to NRW/Hessen, Germany; that's Tajik's IP range.
  5. According to this previous result, the German IP (82.83.129.175) come back as Possible Tajik by Admin Alison.
  6. Here, Admin Voice of All suggests that the German set of IPs (82.83.155.124, 82.83.138.73, 82.83.145.243) and sock German-Orientalist are Possible socks of Tajik.
  7. Here, Admin Voice of All again determines that the set of German IPs (82.83.155.124, 82.83.137.125, 82.83.138.73, and 82.83.145.243) all trace to Tajik.
Tajik (talk · contribs) is known by many as an ethnocentric POV pusher, who often defames the Pashtun people while at the same time promoting the Persian (Iranian) culture. He has been blocked about 20 times for 3rr violations, edit-warrings, repeated incivility/personal attacks, disruptive editings, disruptive use of sockpuppets and anonymous IP edits while avoiding arbitration, violation of 1rr per week, and so on and so on. [35]
He has again decided to edit the same Wikipedia articles by hiding under anonymous IPs as well his latest sockpuppet (Lysozym (talk · contribs)) to engage in the same disruptive anti-Pashtun activities, which includes forum shopping and inviting other users to edit-wars [36], [37], [38], [39], [40]. Tajik thinks everyone who edits Afghanistan articles is User:NisaKhan [41], another editor who Tajik had a long dispute with since 2006.
I think that I have established beyond doubt that User:Tajik is using the new sockpuppet, and I also would like to add that Kingturle should not be supporting one ethnic group of Afghans over the other, this is pure descrimantion and is showing. Kingturtle cannot pretend that he doesn't know what's going on here because he and Tajik are emailing one another.[42] All wikipedia editors should be treated equally, User:Tajik should not be treated better than other editors. If someone who has been blocked about 20 times for various violations as User:Tajik has and 3 months later be allowed to use his latest sockpuppet than that policy should apply to all other editors who have been banned in the past. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Izloo (talk • contribs) 08:03, June 12, 2011
No need to ask for an investigation. I am indeed User:Tajik, but not a sockpuppet. A while back, I asked User:Kingturtle to block my old account because I wanted to take a break from Wikipedia. Now I am back, but I have decided to open a new account and close the old one permanently (that means: User:Tajik will not be activated again; Kingturtle will confirm this request). My new account is a GLOBAL account (unlike the old one, this one can also be used for Wikipedia Commons). It has never been a secret (hence my message to User:Khodabandeh).
It is not against Wikipedia's rules to create a new account. What's forbidden is to abuse 2 or multiple accounts in order to alter votes, create fake majorities, etc. But that's not the case because I am using only ONE account, because my old account has been blocked ON MY OWN REQUEST PERMANENTLY (hence no abuse), and because it has never been a secret that I am User:Tajik (admin Kingturtle knew it from the beginning on and can confirm this). Actually, I had asked Kingturtle to put a sign on the user page of "Tajik" so that everyone can see that the account is permanently deactivated. I think he has simply forgotten to do so and I did not care afterwards since the account is blocked anyway and cannot be abused. --Lysozym (talk) 18:47, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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