Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 October 19

SBA 504 Loan – This discussion tended towards endorse but is also moot due to the rewrite. – Tikiwont (talk) 19:50, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it.

Deletion was entirely unreasonable. 208.82.161.66 (talk) 18:28, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting admin notified. Tim Song (talk) 18:47, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse. The original article was deleted as G11 Promotional and G12 Copyvio. The copyvio url (here) looks like a spam domain-name parking page that mirrored our article and consists only of half of the first paragraph and a bunch of google ads. Our article was up for 2 years, give or take, so it could easily have been mirrored - I'd discount that as a rationale for deletion. The G11, however, looks valid. All references were to a 504experts.com website, and the whole thing reads like ad copy. The "Common Misconceptions" section is a good indicator. The article was in much the same form from the first version of 10 August 2007, the version speedy deleted (no rationale) on 19 August 2007, and recreated 19 September 2007. Good deletion, I think - but no objection to a new article on the subject, if it can be discussed with reliable sources and in a neutral tone. UltraExactZZ ^Claims~ Evidence 20:02, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As the instructions on the deletion review page indicate, many issues can be resolved by asking the deleting/closing administrator for an explanation and/or to reconsider his/her decision. While not strictly mandatory, this should normally be done first. Did you try, and if not, was there some special reason? Stifle (talk) 21:16, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rewrite without the specific links to those offering the services. Almost all the rest of the content is usable. DGG ( talk ) 21:38, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Overturn and stubify. I disagree with DGG. The version in the cache is very promotional (FAQ is highly biased IMO) and a copy vio (actually appears to be quoted all over the place, the link provided is just one example. Maybe in the PD?). But we can cut it to just the lede and expand from there. It is clearly notable. There is a whole book on SBA loans including the 504 [1]. There are plenty of other books [2] and a fair bit of coverage in the press [3], [4]. Hobit (talk) 12:20, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

we basically agree then, not disagree--just a question of how to edit it. DGG ( talk ) 18:52, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse G11. Copyvio or not, that was blatantly promotional. Recreation is, of course, not prohibited. Tim Song (talk) 11:34, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse I would be willing to write a new stub on this important loan program, can I do that now? Abductive (reasoning) 16:31, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Of course, please do. NW (Talk) 01:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Done, stub created. Abductive (reasoning) 06:29, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Alltech – Withdrawn pending userspace draft. – Stifle (talk) 08:13, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it.

This page has been created by unknown people and deleted due to advertising, I now want to create this page and am unable to due to a protection on this page. Alltech is the title sponser of the 2010 FEI World Equestrian Game, and as we are a year away from this event, I believe it necessary to have a page for Alltech.

Ahembree (talk) 12:25, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It would be best to create a draft at User:Ahembree/Alltech and bring the finished draft here for DRV to review. Tim Song (talk) 17:04, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will do that and put up a post once I have done so. Thanks! Ahembree (talk) 20:04, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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