Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UFC on FX 4

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. The consensus below is that the article fails to establish notability via multiple, independent, reliable sources. If (when) such sources come to exist the article can be recreated, based on them. Eluchil404 (talk) 09:22, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

UFC on FX 4

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The very reason WP:CRYSTALBALL exists. From the article While not officially announced by the organization, it is expected to take place on June 22, 2012 at a yet to be announced venue in Atlantic City, New Jersey., so it is only parroting speculation from a single source. Dennis Brown (talk) 18:49, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This would also include UFC 148, which is the exact same type of article. Dennis Brown (talk) 18:50, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: event has been confirmed by the organization, muliple reputable sources have confirmed.Ppt1973 (talk) 18:57, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

- The article SAYS it hasn't, and you wrote the article. There is no link to such, and that wouldn't pass notability even with. It isn't required to create an article on an event before it becomes notable, or before it is even announced. Dennis Brown (talk) 18:59, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Dennis Brown Did you bother reading the source provided, confirming the event?Ppt1973 (talk) 19:06, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - Honestly, I didn't read all the comments on that forum you posted as a source. Did you mean the part where it said The UFC has yet to announce fights or specific venue information for any of the three newly confirmed fight cards.' or are you talking about down in the user comments? I was too busy reading the actual article as written here on Wikipedia, which is the issue at hand. And how exactly does this establish notability. After all, notability is why we are here, any thing else is superfluous. Dennis Brown (talk) 19:18, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No indication of wp:notability, hasn't happened. North8000 (talk) 21:40, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:29, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It appears the UFC on FX 3 event was changed into UFC on Fuel TV 3, it is very likely that this event could become the new UFC on FX 3, I am not sure though, I think there needs to be more sourced material about what will become of this event and we can revive this wiki page, but for now I'm all for deleting it. Glock17gen4 (talk) 08:29, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete We should wait for a UFC on FX 3 announcement before we announce UFC on FX 4. JadeSnake (talk) 16:32, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep No need to delete it, its meets GNG, and beside, we all know that a UFC on FX 4 will happen so better off leaving it as it is

Existing isn't a criteria, notability by being covered by reliable sources is. Which part of the WP:GNG does it pass? Multiple reliable sources? I don't see them, I just see a forum. Dennis Brown (talk) 01:10, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.