Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael McDonald (fighter)

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 01:50, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Michael McDonald (fighter)

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Not to be confused with Michael McDonald (kickboxer), this McDonald is not notable, IMO: fails WP:MMANOT, very little coverage on Google (most is about the kickboxer), only a handful of fights in non-notable local/regional promotions against non-notable opponents. --TreyGeek (talk) 14:30, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. —TreyGeek (talk) 14:33, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Article has no independent sources and subject fails WP:GNG and WP:MMANOT. The article describes him as fighting in local promotions. Non-notable at this time. Papaursa (talk) 17:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Granted I got a little lazy creating the article, only because I started not feeling well. The article will be improved in a matter of a week. Now reasons to keep: McDonald is a huge named prospect and will likely sign with the WEC in a matter of months. He has defeated two very notable fighters, has a great grappling pedigree, a brown belt in BJJ, a ton of MMA and kickboxing experience, and currently holds a title in a mid sized organization. You can delete it, but it's gonna get brought back within a few months when a huge promotions scoops him up. RapidSpin33 (talk) 17:56, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You'll notice I said "at this time". You may well be right, but WP:CRYSTAL says we can't assume that. His title is from a non-notable local promotion. Papaursa (talk) 23:52, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I agree there's a good chance he may be notable in the future, but he's not there yet. Once he's had some fights with a top-tier MMA org, the article can be recreated. Astudent0 (talk) 12:43, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:ATHLETE and GNG -Drdisque (talk) 18:15, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I concur with comments above on speculation. Janggeom (talk) 15:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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