Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of unreleased songs by Nicole Scherzinger

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The result was delete. without predjudice towards the creation of an [[ List of songs recorded by...}] article Mark Arsten (talk) 17:35, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of unreleased songs by Nicole Scherzinger

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This article is a WP:INDISCRIMINATE collection of unsourced information about this singer's unreleased songs. There are zero sources to support the fact that these unreleased songs exist, and even if they do, nothing suggests that this type of list is suitable for inclusion here on Wiki. Till 14:05, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep on the premise sources can be added. Most of these songs have leaked, so there is bound to be some reliable sources for them out there. Additionally, a bunch of them are registered to BMI, so that can be added as a source as well. I'm far too lazy right now to add sources for them, but if nobody does in the next few days, I will go ahead and do it myself. Nicole has recorded a significant amount of songs that remain unreleased, including an entire studio album. Let me point the nominator to List of unreleased Cher songs, List of unreleased ABBA songs, List of unreleased Madonna songs, List of unreleased Britney Spears songs (an FL), List of unreleased Brandy Norwood songs and List of unreleased Michael Jackson material (another FL), for example. Statυs (talk) 14:23, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- So WP:ITSNOTABLE and WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS? As a keep !voter you are required to provide and explanation to your argument by showing evidence that sources for such unreleased songs do in fact exist, as opposed to asking someone else to find them because you are 'too lazy right now'. And BMI is not considered a secondary, reliable source to support such information, we need significant coverage from WP:RS rather than primary sources. Till 14:35, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No. 1) My comment wasn't "it's notable" or "it's not notable" 2) I was showing you articles similar to this, to reply to yours comment on them not being "suitable for inclusion here on Wiki". BMI is a primary source? Really now? "Primary sources are very close to an event, and are often accounts written by people who are directly involved." Record labels register the song with BMI for legal purposes; would you call websites for certification of songs also primary sources with that logic? Statυs (talk) 21:39, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, if you took a look on the article, I added a couple. Statυs (talk) 22:13, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Almost all WP:OR. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 15:21, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know what OR is? "The term "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist." Note the word exist. Did you look it up and find no sources to show the songs exist? That's quite a statement to make. It simply lacks sources. Statυs (talk) 21:39, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:58, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:58, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I've no strong feelings but a merge with Nicole Scherzinger discography would be a compromise, if we need to compromose. --Colapeninsula (talk) 17:05, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, merging this with a discography goes against the purpose of discographies per their project paige because discographies are NOT exhaustive lists of every song recorded by an artist. good examples of lists of recorded songs do exist but im not sure ms scherzinger's has enough information to warrant one. i'll make one in my sandbox at a later stage. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 21:49, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or move to List of songs recorded by Nicole Scherzinger and expand accordingly. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:08, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

...because? Statυs (talk) 04:03, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Response. There may be cause to say that a list of NS songs is a valid list. There is no cause to claim that unreleased songs on their own are notable. Notability for unreleased songs must fail not inherited. I think you weaken your own argument to keep the unreleased whilst seemingly oppose a list of all NS songs! Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 07:59, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

When did I say that? I asked for a reason, as you gave not at all why such a thing should be done. Statυs (talk) 09:24, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Move to List of songs recorded by Nicole Scherzinger, and expand to include songs that were officially released (with the exclusion of her work with the Pussycat Dolls). Statυs (talk) 09:24, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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