- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep, without prejudice to a merge at editorial discretion. There is certainly no consensus here that the article ought to be deleted. Skomorokh 01:42, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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This was listed on CSD to be deleted because it was blatant advertising, but I cannot see it myself. It appears I'm not alone here, as a number of editors have expressed the same opinion on the talk page. However, general consensus on talk is that we cannot determine if this article is notable in the Yoga world, and it was suggested we take to AFD. I am therefore listing this here for further discussion. Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 02:35, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The following of Anahata Yoga appears to be significant enough to warrant a Wikipedia page. In my opinion, it passes the notoriety test. Georgiamonet (talk) 02:50, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
merge to yoga...its categorised as a "minor form of yoga", as a matter of fact, all other minor forms of yoga should have a mention on the yoga page, and their entries deleted. --60.240.117.215 (talk) 13:01, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: please note the similarity of the opinion expressed above with the opinions expressed by User:Debnathsandeep as found here and .here. Debnathsandeep was the editor who listed this article as speedy delete for spam. A look at his contributions shows that he has been extremely active in an effort, as he puts it, to "clean up my passion pages and describe Yoga, Tantra & Ayurveda in the most proper and precise way". I'm afraid this article may be a baby being thrown out with the bathwater. An effort to establish Yoga Purity is in my opinion open to question. One might just as well delete articles about various protestant denominations and sects for failing to follow the True Church, or delete Sunni Islamic groups for failing to follow the True Faith of Shia. Etc. This is a dangerous path, and I have just seen the trail of the spoor of this editor, and I find it disturbing indeed. --Nemonoman (talk) 19:06, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- @Nemonoman: First things first. You are an absolutely proper Wikipedian considering the contributions you have made and also the quality of contributions you made while editing articles & cooling down arguments in the articles. You truly are an asset to Wikipedia, and just to keep up your record, I would humbly request you to not make a mistake now by misunderstanding me. As said in the documentary Enlighten Up (and also elsewhere), that "18 million Americans practice a Baskin Robbins variety of Yoga". If thats true (astonishingly - it is), then there will be a page for each and every flavor of yoga, thats created by a particular person. I do agree that its a (good) baby being thrown out of water, but maintaining more than 1000 (good) babies doesn't seems appropriate. Tomorrow if I come up with my own baby (Bhuto Yoga) and place it in Wikipedia - that houses Yogas by great seers, then I do not think so I am being fair. As per my opinion, NOBODY has the authority to establish a Yoga Purity, but all I am tending towards is Yoga Accuracy, considering the guidelines of WP (which might seem dangerous) & taking in account only the information available on the internet (and not using my own brains to make an opinion). Of all the different forms of Yoga flavours I plan to clean, NONE of them fails to follow the parent(s) yoga. Infact, as per my opinion, each and every (including Anahata) is completely inline and tune with Yoga. The only reason to delete them is WP:N (and the reason stated above)
- All in all, I would like to end this reply, concluding that I would rather respect Nemonoman's decision than follow my own opinion. -- Bhuto (Talk | Contribs) 17:49, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: please note the similarity of the opinion expressed above with the opinions expressed by User:Debnathsandeep as found here and .here. Debnathsandeep was the editor who listed this article as speedy delete for spam. A look at his contributions shows that he has been extremely active in an effort, as he puts it, to "clean up my passion pages and describe Yoga, Tantra & Ayurveda in the most proper and precise way". I'm afraid this article may be a baby being thrown out with the bathwater. An effort to establish Yoga Purity is in my opinion open to question. One might just as well delete articles about various protestant denominations and sects for failing to follow the True Church, or delete Sunni Islamic groups for failing to follow the True Faith of Shia. Etc. This is a dangerous path, and I have just seen the trail of the spoor of this editor, and I find it disturbing indeed. --Nemonoman (talk) 19:06, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I believe this is the first article I started, and I was a newbie for sure. I have not kept up with the article since. Some factors to consider:
- FIRST: this is not as suggested a "self-named" yoga. Anahata is the chakra focus of the practice. That its founder happens to be named Ana is coincidence entirely. She finds the supposed connection embarrasing, she has told me.
- SECOND: As "minor" forms of yoga go, this one is becoming less minor all the time. It now has hundreds of teachers and I would guess thousands of students worldwide.
- THIRD: While lacking in citations, some RS documents are (probably) available. I have seen 4 framed print articles on the practice: 2 from the San Diego Union Tribune, 1 from the San Diego North County Times (Pulitzer-nomainated Daily), and 1 from something official-looking. I think these would do for references, providing I can find the actual sources on line or at the library.
I am on a forced wikibreak with short, haphazard access to the internet, so I will be unable to fix this article for several weeks. If it's deleted, I'd like to be sure that it's not blacklisted, so I will be able to recreate a more substantial article. --Nemonoman (talk) 18:45, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- @Nemonoman
- FIRST: To the best of my knowledge, this maybe a derivation of Buddha's Heart Sutra. There are seven chakras in the body, and each can have 10 derivations of Yoga. Someday, even I plan to create a line of my-own yoga style, based on one of these chakras and will name it Bhuto Yoga (and yes bhuto means the Five great elements in Sanskrit, inline with Yogic connections). But as all yoga experts know, this is one way of cutting down and limiting the vast tree of Yoga.
- SECOND: Bikram Yoga is having 10 times more notability as compared to Anahata (as per Google's result page). But even that needs to clean up, since that is once again - just another flavor. -- respectfully Bhuto (Talk | Contribs) 18:22, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
merge. :This is one solution given by an unknown user, that I have been thinking of. Since the notability of these yoga articles, are hanging in between, only the name (with possibly a one-line description) can be put on the page of List of Modern Yogas (and not Yoga). Even I am a bit skeptical of removing the different flavors of minor yoga, since this is only place, where we can know the different kinds of Yoga that exists today. -- Bhuto (Talk | Contribs) 18:00, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.