Joel Gilbert
editI noticed your post on the Biographies of Living Persons Notice Board. The proper place to raise such issues is Articles for Deletion. Please read these steps and nominate the article for deletion. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 14:52, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
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- Thanks.--Lorencollins (talk) 15:47, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
- Also, you did not complete steps II and III in the AfD nomination procedure. I have completed them for you. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 15:56, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks.--Lorencollins (talk) 15:47, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
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Sulfurboy (talk) 18:08, 23 August 2017 (UTC)September 2022
editPlease stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Neal Boortz. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Please cite a reliable, verifiable, secondary published source. Not your blog, or someone else's. blog, or a mirror of Wikipedia, or another unreliable, user-generated cite. (Yes, I know you've been pushing this for at least 5 years, but per WP:OUTING, I won't say more here. If you want to connect the dots, you're welcome to do it. BilCat (talk) 20:30, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- First, I don't know what you're talking about when you say "I know you've been pushing this for at least 5 years." The first time I edited Boortz's name was in summer 2020, and those edits remained intact for over two years, until two months ago on the day you reverted one of them.
- Second, my cited source was not my blog, or another blog, or a Wikipedia mirror, etc. My cited source was page 131 of "The Macgill-Magill Family of Maryland," published by the Genealogical Society of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints in 1948. On that page of that book, it states that "Neal Adolph Boortz, Jr." was born on "4-6-1945" in "Wallingford, Pa.", as the son of "Capt. Neal Adolph Boortz, USMC."
- Look back to my edit of June 26, 2020, when I personally added that source to the page as a citation for Mr. Boortz's middle name. In fact, that book still appears on Boortz's page as Note #1. This is a reliable, verifiable, secondary published source, not any of the online examples you falsely accused me of using.
- Third, I can't help but notice that the other anonymous editor who reverted my sourced addition of Mr. Boortz's middle name justified that reversion by claiming "Real legal middle name is “A”", but there is no source whatsoever provided for THAT assertion of fact, or for the formatting of his name with no period after the "A". Indeed, I believe the only source that Mr. Boortz's middle name is simply "A" is Mr. Boortz himself, which would make that a violation of WP:SELFPUB.
- In fact, none of the other sources for the introduction or biography on this page offer up a middle initial for Mr. Boortz at all, much less actively claim that there is *no* middle name, but only a single letter. The only one of the first seven sources given that provides a full name for Mr. Boortz is "The Macgill-Magill Family of Maryland," which states his full name is Neal Adolph Boortz, Jr.
- Finally, I do not appreciate being threatened with a block for posting a sourced edit with a reliable published citation, and being the subject of false accusations regarding my editing history. Lorencollins (talk) 19:54, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- My apologies. I totally missed the Genealogical Survey in the first sentence. I'm not sure that's an acceptable source, and I'm certainly not going to take your word that it is, but I will follow up on it somewhere. Genealogical surveys can be incorrect, but I'm sure it's been dealt with before on Wikipedia. However this is a BLP issue. If Boortz denies that his birth name is "Adolph", we have to take that into account. If he says his name is legally "Neal A Boortz", then it is, period. Perhaps his parents were insensitive enough to name him "Adolph" in 1945, but I totally understand why he'd want to deny it. After all, he has people with names like yours out there on a campaign to tell the world his true name, as if it somehow matters. The most we can say in Wikipedia's voice is that it is his birth name, but we have to have unassailable proof. I don't think we're there yet. BilCat (talk) 22:49, 19 September 2022 (UTC)