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Chaosandvoid (talk) 15:15, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Go on - give us a hint about what the problem is... Peridon (talk) 15:25, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello helpers! I am looking for some help and advice on what to do about my wiki page on The Grey Organisation it has been flagged/tagged(?) as being written from a fan's point of view. I would like to get it cleaned up. can someone give me an opinion or how to do this? Thanks! Chaosandvoid (talk) 15:28, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

• I've had to remove some information, immediately - because it was potentially negative unsourced information, and involves living persons. We cannot permit that type of thing on Wikipedia; everything needs a reference, but especially any strong claims, and especially especially regarding living persons. See WP:BLP and WP:V.

More to follow.  Chzz  ►  15:41, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

OK, so what needs doing is, fundamentally, stating straight facts that can be checked in 'reliable sources' such as newspapers, magazine articles, and so forth - sources that are independent of the organization itself.

http://www.tokyohipstersclub.com/magazine/english_text/an_artist_wearing_a_gray_suit.html is giving me a 404 error.

None of the following seem to make any mention of Grey Organisation (unless I'm missing something);

• http://www.frieze.com/issue/review/some_drawings_from_london/ doesn't seem to mention 'grey', nor does the PDF http://maureenpaley.com/system/assets/files/985/original/history-paley-84-04.pdf
• http://maureenpaley.com/system/assets/files/985/original/history-paley-84-04.pdf
• http://artnews.org/gallery.php?i=4918&exi=20037Loud_Flash_British_Punk_on_Paper doesn't either
• http://www.haunchofvenison.com/en/index.php#page=london.exhibitions.2010.loud_flash

Discogs is not a reliable source.

Therefore, at the moment, the article does not establish 'notability' - and that is the first, most important thing; please see WP:VRS and WP:BAND.

The remainder of the article uses excessively long quotations from some publication which a) it doesn't say where it comes from, b) is presumably a primary source, and c) is unlikely to be a reliable source.

Based on your user name, I imagine you have some connection with the organization, and thus a conflict of interest - therefore, please read WP:BESTCOI for advice on how to proceed.

In order for the article to remain on Wikipedia, it needs independent, reliable sources to verify the facts. See also WP:FIRST.

 Chzz  ►  15:52, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, the name Chaos and void (Tohu wa-bohu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tohu_wa-bohu) comes from the Torah and relates to Jewish mysticism and in no way has anything to do with Punk or the GO. I am 29 years old and far too young to have been involved in any of this. I am currently studying for a Masters degree and am focusing on Punk and anarcho aesthetics. Along the way I have interviewed and met some interesting people who I am writing about. At the time of writing all references were checked and verified I will double check them now. Thanks for your assistance

Sorry; your personal interviews cannot be used to verify information; the facts must be published in a reliable source. See WP:V. If the information does not appear in appropriate reliable sources then it should not be in a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia does not produce any original research; we only document topics which are already documented elsewhere.  Chzz  ►  16:19, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Okay, cool... I understand that, it makes sense. I dont think there is anything left now that isn't verified or verifiable in print. references 4 to 7 dont mention GO because they are from the section 'After GO' which is from a period after the group had disbanded and only pertain to former GO member Toby Mott. I dont know what happened with the Tokyo Hipsters one. I will try and find a live link. Thanks for this help, its really appreciated.

So it seems that www.tokyohipstersclub.com has gone down, I'm sure it is only temporary as this does happen to websites from time to time. In the meantime i will search for an alternative reference.

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The reason I deleted the links to the Turner Exhibition on the various articles that you posted it on is that the link does not mention anything about Margaret Thatcher, RAC, Class War, the Poll Tax Riots, Skrewdriver, Blood & Honor, British Movement, Socialist Workers Party, Psychic TV, Genesis Breyer P-Orridge, Test Dept, Nicky Crane etc. All that the page says is:

Inspired by Margate, a seaside town associated throughout history with youth experience, Nothing in the World But Youth encompasses the excitement, energy and pulsating creativity of the young, bringing together over 200 works by 94 artists in an examination of youth. The exhibition reflects and examines the complex picture of teenage lives and the differing views society has of its young people since the end of the nineteenth century. It includes works by internationally and nationally acclaimed artists, including Henry Moore, Peter Blake, Sarah Lucas, Andy Warhol, Mark Leckey, Jim Lambie and David Hockney.

These will be exhibited alongside early works by JMW Turner, who visited Margate regularly during his own adolescence.

The exhibition will take four main themes as a starting point to consider society's ambivalent views of its own young people, whilst celebrating teenagers' vibrant culture and the important role they play in society: Place, Space and Territory; Groups and Individuals; Rebellion and Responsibility; and Boys, Girls, Sexuality and Growing Up.

Reflecting the vibrancy of youth culture, it will also include objects such as a jacket customised by David Bowie as a teenager, iconic footwear, and a collection of magazines, posters, and other memorabilia from the post-punk period from the Mott Collection. There will also be a special selection of films about adolescence available for visitors to watch at their leisure.

“Nothing in the World But Youth is an exciting and vibrant exhibition containing a huge range of artworks. Although it focuses on what it is to be young, the theme is universal and the content is sure to spark memories for all our visitors, young or old. The theme of youth is also particularly relevant to Margate, and the town’s own connection with youth culture” Victoria Pomery, Director Turner Contemporary.

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