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Happy editing! ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 13:09, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
I think the logo in Bitcoin's page should be the same width as dogecoin's. "| image_width_1 = 150" --104.234.20.90 (talk) 11:24, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- done :) Bob (talk) 17:10, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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editCardano
editI don't normally edit on cryptocurrency topics at all, and I'm not prepared to try to educate myself on the topic in order to sort out what edits are or aren't problematic, so unfortunately I really don't have very much useful input into the matter. What I will say, however, is that temporary page protection is frequently necessary to stop problematic edits — so your first recourse when an administrator applies page protection is usually to get involved in discussing the edits that are under dispute (whether they were yours or somebody else's) on the article's talk page to arrive at a consensus about them.
(Just by the by, I know it wasn't the primary purpose of your question, but because you mentioned it the "pitchnut" links are there because somebody, in an earlier post to my talk page, used footnoted "references" instead of just providing text links.) Bearcat (talk) 16:41, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for your speedy reply Bearcat! Fair enough, thanks for the input. hahah that explains it ;) Blockchainus Maximus (talk) 16:48, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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Minor edits
editHi Blockchainus Maximus! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. JaggedHamster (talk) 14:43, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, my apologies for the confusion on my part, I will most definitely try to label my edits more accurately in future. Thank you for letting me know. I always thought small sentence changes / additions were included in minor edits, thank you for correcting me and showing me the proper edit labeling standards :) Bob (talk) 16:12, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
Cardano (blockchain platform) has special restrictions
editAs I assume you've seen, every time you edit the Cardano page, there is a big notice at the which says "Editors must not make more than one revert per 24 hours (subject to exceptions)". Your edits are not exceptions. (You can read more about this here). You do not have consensus to add this material. Repeatedly restoring this content against consensus is edit warring and is disruptive.
Your claims about WP:FORBESCON belong on the talk page, and are not persuasive.
Similarly, your use of very flimsy press releases, churnalism, and passing mentions (such as the ZDNet article) to pad-out the citations for the Dish Network "partnership" is likewise WP:POINTed.
Don't add bad sources to support information you personally think is important. Instead, summarize what good sources say. Your understanding of what qualifies as a good source and what is a bad source is not consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. We've already been over this, right?
And yes, this material you keep re-adding is overly promotional regardless of your stated intentions.
There are other problems with your recent edits as well. I know it's frustrating, but the burden is on you to gain consensus for these edits.
Grayfell (talk) 21:35, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Grayfell --
- Hi Grayfell, thank you for the reminder - indeed in my enthusiasm I initially added the forbes section back into the updated text on Voltaire, my apologies for this. As you can see I deleted it soon after realizing my mistake, maintaining your edit but also adding my commentary of Forbescon exceptions. The new section on voltaire is an entirely newly re-written piece of text based on your commentary of not enough context, I used a new source and added the context as per your advice. This is not a revert but an entirely new section of text I wrote while keeping your deleted edit on the forbes text. You call this promotional but in what way? It very simply describes the development eras of the last 5 years... this is fact... this is part of the development... It is a shame there is not more information to describe each phase in detail (as many other Cryptocurrency pages do - just look at the ethereum pages, they all use "fun / new" names for development projects). So now simple facts about its development are suddenly promotional? --> you can see in the github that these are part of the ledger... https://github.com/input-output-hk/cardano-ledger/releases/tag/cardano-ledger-spec-2023-01-18 Looking at the Ethereum page just now and I see right near the top they have a huge table with "protocol upgrades" most of which isn't even sourced...
- I added the header back to the section on "defi" as I assumed this was done accidentally and is minor. The bulk of the text that you deleted I did not revert. Feel free to delete the header if you feel this is necessary.
- Of the 3 sections you deleted I reverted one (Dish) and I was unsure as to which sources you prefer so added what I could find. I also added more text to give the necessary context. Simply deleting the sources you dislike and keeping the most high quality ones allows the relevant material to be kept. It is relevant... it is an application of a technology to a company with millions of users... The addition of a real world application of Cardano to the application section of a wiki page is not promotional. It happened. It is part of Cardano's history. Are we just supposed to ignore any application of the protocol for the rest of time because god forbid its actual use can be considered "promotional"? Thank you though for your advice, I hope the page and information sources used are now improved. Bob (talk) 10:08, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm just going to focus on the Dish announcement, for simplicity. That's not a pass on the other issues, it's just to keep this conversation at a reasonable length.
- This announcement of a future investigation was, (per the press release) "to enhance and optimize its ability to serve its customers." This is typical language from press releases, but it's vapid. It says nothing at all of substance, since it's not designed to. It is a promotional source, so any neutral summary of it will be promotional. If this were really significant, it would be possible to cite reliable independent sources which explained why these details were significant. it No source you have cited, nor any source I have seen, has indicated how this partnership has affected even a single one of the company's millions of users. Either of us could try and figure it out, but that would be WP:OR. If this is significant to Cardano, it should be possible to find something more than press releases and business churnalism that directly links this to Cardano. There is the one single passing mention form one reliable outlet:
Additionally, Dish and Input Output Global, the company behind the Cardano blockchain, announced a partnership agreement to build blockchain-based services together. In short, Dish is comfortable with cryptocurrency.
[1] That source even helpfully tells us why it's mentioning the Cardano announcement, and it's really not all that significant to Cardano in that context. - So I've looked for more recent sources to try and find out what happened, and I haven't found any which are usable. I found some press releases and some unreliable junk mentions Cardano, but the few reliable sources for this program don't tie it to any specific blockchain. (That doesn't mean they aren't out there, just that I didn't find them). Those press releases don't really explain anything, even when they purport to. Per IOHK, this is about Dish's "Boostcoin" program. IOHK did not explained what a Boostcoin is, nor why Dish would actually want such a complicated system to keep track of what appear to be loyalty points.
- Some sources did explain what Boostcoin is, but they don't tie it to Cardano, nor do they suggest this is significant or widely used. For example: this Verge article which cites this CNET article, neither of which mention any specific blockchain at all. (Even Boostmobile's own website currently seems to downplay the blockchain element.)
- To add this is to imply that it has significance, but as I've said multiple times before, significance comes from reliable sources. Grayfell (talk) 21:24, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- The text you deleted explained the impact namely: loyalty points and digital IDs. Loyalty points in the context of any industry can be spent or exchanged for discounts in almost every online platform I have used so far and digital IDs speak for themselves really... your ID encrypted with the security of the blockchain. Alright I get the first source was "vapid" - the reason I included the others sources was purely so you were able to choose which was reasonable, several of which were perfectly reasonable imo. You seem to have also deleted the context that I added explaining Dish's relevance...did you also mean to delete the two last bullet points of the application section? Bob (talk) 21:42, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I did mean to delete those.
- The sources you added were not perfectly reasonable by Wikipedia's standards. You added many bad sources and then... what, you expected me to pour over them to find some which might theoretically be usable? I've already spent enough time trying to explain Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.
- I know what loyalty points are, but none of the usable sources linked 'loyalty points' to 'Cardano' nor did they explain why it was encyclopedically significant. Perhaps going into detail about Boostcoins was a mistake. I explained the background about Boost to show that I'm putting effort into understanding this so we can improve the article. I did not add any of that to that to the article because we need reliable sources to spell it out for us. I have already tried to explain this multiple times. Grayfell (talk) 23:30, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- The text you deleted explained the impact namely: loyalty points and digital IDs. Loyalty points in the context of any industry can be spent or exchanged for discounts in almost every online platform I have used so far and digital IDs speak for themselves really... your ID encrypted with the security of the blockchain. Alright I get the first source was "vapid" - the reason I included the others sources was purely so you were able to choose which was reasonable, several of which were perfectly reasonable imo. You seem to have also deleted the context that I added explaining Dish's relevance...did you also mean to delete the two last bullet points of the application section? Bob (talk) 21:42, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Of the 3 sections you deleted I reverted one (Dish) and I was unsure as to which sources you prefer so added what I could find. I also added more text to give the necessary context. Simply deleting the sources you dislike and keeping the most high quality ones allows the relevant material to be kept. It is relevant... it is an application of a technology to a company with millions of users... The addition of a real world application of Cardano to the application section of a wiki page is not promotional. It happened. It is part of Cardano's history. Are we just supposed to ignore any application of the protocol for the rest of time because god forbid its actual use can be considered "promotional"? Thank you though for your advice, I hope the page and information sources used are now improved. Bob (talk) 10:08, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
Improvements to the Tezos article
editHi Blockchainus Maximus, I am working to improve the Tezos article and ensure the content accurately reflects the sources. I have a pending request on the talk page. I noticed that you have shown interest in blockchain and cryptocurrency, and that you made a relevant edit to the Tim Draper article in the past. Therefore, I thought you may be interested in reviewing my edit request and implementing the changes, if you agree with the suggestions. Of course, I would be happy to hear any feedback you may have. Thanks, Lauraattezos (talk) 12:04, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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