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hi Alivardi I don't know your identity can you read the reference which I put in http://www.royalark.net/India4/delhi20.htm in this Link completely carefully read then go to Royal history museum. London Rayalark dictionary gallery. And come to Istanbul Topkapi museum. And read books Tawarikh-e-ruhala Rampur library & "First ceneson of Rampur state 1911" & . "Sadhra-e-Mughaliya". And first thing is that you are edit after edited already. Do you know actual history of last time period of Mughal dynasty what happened. Where Khizer sultan were captured & where was murdered. İf you know that indroduce me your self otherwise I will submit a petition against you a Cort.
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editHello, I've seen your created articles like Pratapgarh state and they are very impressive. I would appreciate if you could make an article on Kharagpur/Kharakpur chieftaincy of Munger, Bihar. It was a Muslim Rajput dynasty that had a major impact on the history of Bihar. Some reading here:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/44155867
https://www.jstor.org/stable/44142804
https://www.jstor.org/stable/44142975
I don't have an account so I can't create myself and since you've done a lot for Muslim South Asian history I was wondering if you could take a look? If you make an account of JSTOR you get 6 free article viewings. Thanks.2605:3E80:700:10:0:0:0:5A82 (talk) 14:48, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Indian genealogy
editCan you just hang on with your reverts of {{Ahnentafel}} stuff, please. You were bold in adding them, I reverted on some articles and I've opened a discussion at one where you then reverted me. Let's try to get some further input. It will probably need to go to a thread at WT:INB but just perhaps there will be enough to persuade either you or me at the thread I have opened at Talk:Bhagwant Das. - Sitush (talk) 20:59, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
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Mughal Empire and India as the world's largest economy
editThanks for your contributions and for the re-adjustment of my edits. 79.75.56.255 (talk) 15:25, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- It's cool buddy, happy to help. Alivardi (talk) 10:07, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Abdul Qadir Gilani
editSir Please this user **Kashmiri** has removed calligraphy from Many of imams of Ahl Bayat and From Pages of Awliyah e.g Abdul Qadir Jeelani and many more.
He is amended to edit or remove islamic heritage. pls rollback the changes
Deletion discussion about Theodore Kantakouzenos
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Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Slatersteven and it's nice to meet you :-)
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- @Slatersteven: Alright buddy, thanks for letting me know. Alivardi (talk) 16:51, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Theodore Kantakouzenos
editHi, I saw a reference in the article Theodore Kantakouzenos that I think has the wrong date. The book is "The Byzantine Inheritance of Eastern Europe" by Dimitri Obolensky, and the citation says it was published in 1969. From what I can find, the book was originally published in 1982, with a republish in 1996, which makes me think the 9 and the 6 might've just been flipped by accident. If this is the case, I can go ahead and fix it. If not, I'll take you at your word; you seem incredibly knowledgeable about this.
Another date that seems to be of issue is Nicol's entry "Byzantium: Its Ecclesiastical History and Relations with the Western World" in the Variorum Collected Studies, as it seems this was first published in 1972, and that the first title in the series was published in 1970, yet it's listed as 1968 in the citation.
Also, I know it's probably stressful seeing your article get nominated for deletion, but I think it was nominated wrongfully, and I don't think there's a chance such a well-sourced article will be removed. All the best, TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 23:59, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
- @TheTechnician27: Thank you, that's very kind of you to say. Regarding the dates, honestly I've been getting those ones from Google Books, which can be prone to mistakes. So if you do spot any, of course feel free to correct them. Alivardi (talk) 00:24, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Alivardi: Thank you. I also added some information to them, including a link to The Cambridge Medieval History on the Internet Archive. I made the assumption, by the way, that "A Byzantine emperor in England: Manuel II's visit to London in 1400–1401" by Donald Nicol was a chapter in Byzantium: Its Ecclesiastical History and Relations with the Western World and not part of the title, but I can revert it if this was incorrect. Again, your sourcing in the article is excellent, especially for how new it is. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 00:47, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
- @TheTechnician27: It was my understanding that rather than a chapter, it was actually a study which was published alongside a collection of others (I only had access to that one particular section). Though I think what you did works in that scenario as well. Anyways, I really do appreciate your additions to the citations, so thank you. Alivardi (talk) 10:56, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
- I'm glad you appreciate it; it often goes unnoticed. With your permission, something you may want to consider using for the citations that say "[Person] explains/notes/argues xyz" followed by a reference to a source is a template called an explanatory footnote, or 'Efn'. The explanations go in their own smaller section just above 'References', usually called 'Notes' or 'Footnotes'. The goal is both to make the references more flexible (e.g., say you want to cite a work twice, but the explanation for the first instance makes no sense for the second) and to make them more readable. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 03:35, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks buddy, I'll remember that Alivardi (talk) 04:25, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
- I'm glad you appreciate it; it often goes unnoticed. With your permission, something you may want to consider using for the citations that say "[Person] explains/notes/argues xyz" followed by a reference to a source is a template called an explanatory footnote, or 'Efn'. The explanations go in their own smaller section just above 'References', usually called 'Notes' or 'Footnotes'. The goal is both to make the references more flexible (e.g., say you want to cite a work twice, but the explanation for the first instance makes no sense for the second) and to make them more readable. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 03:35, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
- @TheTechnician27: It was my understanding that rather than a chapter, it was actually a study which was published alongside a collection of others (I only had access to that one particular section). Though I think what you did works in that scenario as well. Anyways, I really do appreciate your additions to the citations, so thank you. Alivardi (talk) 10:56, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Alivardi: Thank you. I also added some information to them, including a link to The Cambridge Medieval History on the Internet Archive. I made the assumption, by the way, that "A Byzantine emperor in England: Manuel II's visit to London in 1400–1401" by Donald Nicol was a chapter in Byzantium: Its Ecclesiastical History and Relations with the Western World and not part of the title, but I can revert it if this was incorrect. Again, your sourcing in the article is excellent, especially for how new it is. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 00:47, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Discussion involving your edits
editHello, I just wanted to let you know that there is a section on the talk page of Muhsin ibn Ali that you have been mentioned in. The topic is Talk:Muhsin ibn Ali#Disruptive edits. Snowsky Mountain (talk) 23:21, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
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Literary taste removes any paste!
editDear Alivardi, Thanks for your revolutionary editing. I am sorry that you did not find my exposition titled the Legend of Husayn or Husaynian Legend worthy of being calculated as a wiki contribution. In my part, although it was condensed, there were some key notions incorporated into the text worthy of being developed at least by other editors. Religious discourses like any other hermeneutic explanation have different layers of meaning, in this case not confined to an emotional survey of the epic.
History of Sylhet
editHi Alivardi, I am working on the History of Sylhet and need some help on what to include and not to include. For example, your page on Pratapgarh Kingdom, is an important part of the Sylhet's history but I can't add every bit of information about it to the History of Sylhet page as it will be too long. I require some assistance with this and organising my article in general. Many thanks.
- Hi UserNumber. I've noticed your work on that page and I really appreciate the amount of effort you've put in. However, I'm not sure I can be much help regarding the general history of Sylhet. The articles I have written relating to Sylhet have mainly been about topics of which I had some prior knowledge; my understanding of the overall history of the region is somewhat lacking. I can do general edits and give suggestions for what you have written so far, but I am not really able to provide anything needing specialist knowledge. Is that okay?
- In regards to the history of Pratapgarh, I cannot see any issues with what you have written already. Making some short mention of the eventual fate of the kingdom may be beneficial, but I don't believe anything beyond that is really necessary. Maybe add something like this at the end of the main paragraph: "the kingdom later collapsed following an invasion by Kachar in the early 18th century".
Alivardi (talk) 21:15, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. I would also like to upload some images for some articles that I have created. I have not uploaded images on this website before so could you please do the favour of uploading these for me: Syed Abdul Majid (http://en.banglapedia.org/index.php?title=File:MajidSyedAbdul.jpg) and I'tisam-ud-Din (https://assetsds.cdnedge.bluemix.net/sites/default/files/styles/very_big_2/public/news/images/01_0.png?itok=p7jIYhkC and https://pictures.abebooks.com/INLIBRIS/16402381929_3.jpg)
- Many thanks once again UserNumber (talk) 16:21, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- I've uploaded the first two pictures.[1][2] I haven't done the third because I think it would be best to include the name of the book which it came from, which I don't have access to. Here[3] is the link to upload an image on to Wikimedia Commons (which is where Wikipedia images are sourced from) if you wanted to upload the last one yourself. You should be able to just log in with your Wikipedia account, after which there is a 2 minute process to include the necessary info about the picture before uploading it.
Alivardi (talk) 13:54, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- I've uploaded the first two pictures.[1][2] I haven't done the third because I think it would be best to include the name of the book which it came from, which I don't have access to. Here[3] is the link to upload an image on to Wikimedia Commons (which is where Wikipedia images are sourced from) if you wanted to upload the last one yourself. You should be able to just log in with your Wikipedia account, after which there is a 2 minute process to include the necessary info about the picture before uploading it.
- May Allah reward you my dear brother, I really appreciate it UserNumber (talk) 16:08, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- I am having trouble understanding Upload Wizard. How did you upload those two pictures if they weren't yours? How did you know what the copyright claim for images are? Many thanksUserNumber (talk) 09:55, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- I tend to click the "First published before 1924 and author deceased more than 70 years ago" option. The best thing to do is find the original source for the image to confirm this.
- I am having trouble understanding Upload Wizard. How did you upload those two pictures if they weren't yours? How did you know what the copyright claim for images are? Many thanksUserNumber (talk) 09:55, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- E.g. if you're talking about the second I'tisam-ud-Din image which I hadn't uploaded before, just check that the book it was from had been published before 1924 and that the artist (if one is attributed) has been dead for more that 70 years.
Alivardi (talk) 11:51, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- E.g. if you're talking about the second I'tisam-ud-Din image which I hadn't uploaded before, just check that the book it was from had been published before 1924 and that the artist (if one is attributed) has been dead for more that 70 years.
Arbitrarily wiping content on Shahrbanu
editThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Please stop arbitrarily wiping content on the article for Shahrbanu. Removing content regarding the reports concerning her in order to push a one-sided view, removing translations of the person’s name, etc. to push your POV is disruptive editing. — LissanX (talk) 01:41, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Accusations of vandalism and POV pushing are very serious and in no way refute my concerns regarding your edits. I ask that you either address my concerns, show me why they aren't warrented or (if you really think I'm a vandal) report me to the appropriate Admin Noticeboard.
Alivardi (talk) 01:58, 2 November 2019 (UTC)- You removed this content:
The date of reports, however, coincide with the golden age of Hadith compilations, with the Shia Four Books and Sunni Six Books all being released in the 9th century, as written Islamic reports were sparse prior to this period.
- From this paragraph:
Islamic writers, such as al-Mubarrad, Ya'qubi and al-Kulayni, wrote the earliest reports of Shahrbanu and her imperial Persian background from the 9th century onward. However, the earliest sources make no mention of the mother of Ali ibn Husayn, nor do they ascribe him with maternal royal ancestry. The first references were from Ibn Sa'd and Ibn Qutaybah, also in the 9th century, who instead describe her as being a slave from Sindh. The Encyclopædia Iranica alleges that Shahrbanu was "undeniably legendary".
- Why would you censor this highly relevant information to enforce a skewed view that manipulates the reader into thinking Islamic reports from the 9th century are unreliable or dubious? Additionally, why would you remove part of the translation of the person’s name? Your edits are disruptive and prejudicial. — LissanX (talk) 02:08, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Read my edit summaries.
Alivardi (talk) 02:12, 2 November 2019 (UTC)- I added multiple sources for the already publicly known information. All of this was already available in the pages linked to. I also added to the translation's meaning. — LissanX (talk) 02:52, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Please tone down the references a bit. Other than that, I consider my concerns addressed. Thank you.
Alivardi (talk) 02:56, 2 November 2019 (UTC)- You’re welcome. I’ve removed six of them, leaving five. If there are any further issues please let me know. — LissanX (talk) 03:08, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- There is actually one last thing. Can you confirm that Shahrbanu herself is mentioned in the sources you provided? I want to avoid any issues with WP:ORIGINAL.
Alivardi (talk) 13:54, 2 November 2019 (UTC)- She’s mentioned in some of them, but the sources are for the fact that the Four Books of Shias and the Six Books of Sunnis were all produced around the 9th century, not regarding Shahrbanu herself. — LissanX (talk) 20:13, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- There is actually one last thing. Can you confirm that Shahrbanu herself is mentioned in the sources you provided? I want to avoid any issues with WP:ORIGINAL.
- You’re welcome. I’ve removed six of them, leaving five. If there are any further issues please let me know. — LissanX (talk) 03:08, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Please tone down the references a bit. Other than that, I consider my concerns addressed. Thank you.
- I added multiple sources for the already publicly known information. All of this was already available in the pages linked to. I also added to the translation's meaning. — LissanX (talk) 02:52, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Read my edit summaries.
- Why would you censor this highly relevant information to enforce a skewed view that manipulates the reader into thinking Islamic reports from the 9th century are unreliable or dubious? Additionally, why would you remove part of the translation of the person’s name? Your edits are disruptive and prejudicial. — LissanX (talk) 02:08, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
@LissanX:, don't add random religious sites as citations please, they are not reliable. Also, please see [4] --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:03, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- Not reliable according to who? I didn’t realize Wikipedia only allowed secular sources. You expect for articles on religious figures and subjects to not have religious sources? lol. — LissanX (talk) 20:27, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
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editMaharaja Ranjit Singh
edit'As consistent with many punjabis of that time, he was a cultural Hindu and followed the Sikh path.' - is what I wrote on that page as its consistent with the writings on McCleod & Co. A Cultural Hindu, simply put, is somebody who just partakes in the cultural side of 'Hinduism', for example, partaking in certain Poojas or being homage to certain Vedic deities. However, you removed it stating that it was not sourced properly, could you rectify this please?
- My objection was you stating Ranjit Singh's religion to be Hinduism in the infobox, despite "Cultural Hindu" not implying religious adherence to the faith. However, I did not intend to remove the sentence you added to the lead, and for this I apologise. I have restored the sentence, but in the main article rather than where you had originally placed it. This is because content in the lead must reflect the main points of the article and cannot introduce new information (see MOS:LEAD). Thanks
Alivardi (talk) 13:09, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for response, I attempted to change the 'religious' box to 'identity', hence I added the word 'Hindu' in (I'll leave the debate regarding 'religion' being the appropriate way to describe a Dharmic 'mode of being' for another page!) Thank you for rectifying my mistake though. I'll try an add in a separate box which goes into identity/'world-view'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by English Singh (talk • contribs) 21:00, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
Hello, and thank you for submitting Chakrapani Datta to Wikipedia Asian Month. Unfortunately, the article's acceptance is put on hold for now as it appears that some sentences were copied from Banglapedia without attribution. Please rephrase the parts in question so that the article can be accepted. Thank you and happy editing. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:26, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- While I appreciate you voicing your concerns, I have to disagree. All relevant content is properly attributed to the Banglapedia article you mentioned. However, if your primary worry is that the wording of the article is too similar to that of the source material, I will of course try to correct that. Thank you.
Alivardi (talk) 01:28, 26 November 2019 (UTC)- Sure, once the paragraph in question is revised, the article will be accepted. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:32, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
- I think I've managed to address your concerns. Thank you again for raising them to me. Feel free to let me know if there are any other issues.
Alivardi (talk) 15:35, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- I think I've managed to address your concerns. Thank you again for raising them to me. Feel free to let me know if there are any other issues.
- Sure, once the paragraph in question is revised, the article will be accepted. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:32, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
Nader Shah
editYou said that proper grammar would be nice. Then you should remove "one of the most powerful Iranian rulers in the history of the nation" into "one of the most powerful rulers in the Iranian history" if "one of the most powerful Iranian rulers in the Iranian history" doesn't please you. What is "history of the nation", this is not Encyclopedia Iranica. See WP:NPOV. Beshogur (talk) 10:56, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Feel free to change it. Just be careful with your grammar.
Alivardi (talk) 11:00, 2 December 2019 (UTC) - And FYI, it should be "one of the most powerful rulers in Iranian history", not "one of the most powerful rulers in the Iranian history".
Alivardi (talk) 11:05, 2 December 2019 (UTC)- Fine. Thanks. Glad you agree. Beshogur (talk) 11:06, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Beshogur: Just a little FYI: You do realize that the vast majority of articles in Iranica are written by well-known non-Iranian scholars (Bosworth, etc), right? Even if that wasn't the case, Iranica is still clearly a reliable and neutral source. You refer to it as it was the opposite [5] [6]. --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:17, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- @HistoryofIran: I have no problem with Iranica. Iranica doesn't even say the word "of the nation". I don't understand the problem with mentioning it directly as Iranian history? "of the nation" is a wording like Wikipedia belongs only to Iranians. Beshogur (talk) 11:21, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Beshogur: HistoryofIran said that last comment, not me.
Alivardi (talk) 11:24, 2 December 2019 (UTC)- Huh? I never said anything regarding the wording once. Let's just leave this. --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:30, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Beshogur: Honestly, I'd argue your new wording was better. You didn't need to revert it. I'll leave it up to you how you want it anyway.
Alivardi (talk) 11:35, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Beshogur: Honestly, I'd argue your new wording was better. You didn't need to revert it. I'll leave it up to you how you want it anyway.
- Huh? I never said anything regarding the wording once. Let's just leave this. --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:30, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Beshogur: HistoryofIran said that last comment, not me.
- @HistoryofIran: I have no problem with Iranica. Iranica doesn't even say the word "of the nation". I don't understand the problem with mentioning it directly as Iranian history? "of the nation" is a wording like Wikipedia belongs only to Iranians. Beshogur (talk) 11:21, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Beshogur: Just a little FYI: You do realize that the vast majority of articles in Iranica are written by well-known non-Iranian scholars (Bosworth, etc), right? Even if that wasn't the case, Iranica is still clearly a reliable and neutral source. You refer to it as it was the opposite [5] [6]. --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:17, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- Fine. Thanks. Glad you agree. Beshogur (talk) 11:06, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
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editHello, I got yur message on my talk page. All I did was add the "exact comments" that the reference is being is pointed to. This is what the comments were "500 killed or wounded[4] 100-200 surrendered Another 300–400 killed or wounded while escaping over steep rocks[5]
and I corrected the wording per the reference its pointing to.
500 Gallant Rajputs killed or wounded[4] Few Surrendered Several hundreds chose the desperate alternative of venturing over the rocks. Many died in this attempt.[5]
These are the exact wording in the reference. What is the need of assumption even after what it says in the reference?
The 1000-1400 is also pointing to same reference whereas there is no such information in the reference. Its pretty much a lie covered up using reference that it doesn't even relate to. Not arguing with you but just making my point. So do you think my change was still incorrect? WorldWikiAuthorOriginal | talk 15:01, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- My concern is the use of words such as "gallant" and "desperate" in relation to the Rajputs, which seem to display an inappropriate preference towards them and attempt to elicit an emotional response from readers in their favour. The fact that the referenced text itself uses such language is inconsequential, because Wikipedia must remain neutral, even if our sources are not.
Alivardi (talk) 15:17, 31 January 2020 (UTC)- Understood but what about this as neutral,
- 500 killed or wounded[4]
- Few Surrendered
- Several hundreds chose the desperate alternative of venturing over the rocks. Many died in this attempt.[5]
- Does this sound neutral?
- And how about removing "Mughals" where it says 1000-1400 Mughals, making it just 1000-1400. We already know that Rajputs were fighting on behalf of Mughal Empire. And it was a mix of both Rajput and Mughal Soldiers. So there is no point to mention Mughals after the number. Also 1000-1400 is an assumption. Not exact number or has mention of it in the reference given.
- WorldWikiAuthorOriginal | talk 15:27, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- I have no problem with correcting the Mughals and troop numbers part. The escape attempt section seems too wordy for an infobox and still includes the word "desperate".
Alivardi (talk) 15:56, 31 January 2020 (UTC)- I agree. Thanks.
WorldWikiAuthorOriginal | talk 15:59, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- I agree. Thanks.
- I have no problem with correcting the Mughals and troop numbers part. The escape attempt section seems too wordy for an infobox and still includes the word "desperate".
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Bharatpur state
editWhy you are adding jadaun fake story with bharatpur state page Maharajaranjitsingh123 (talk) 17:19, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- I did not add anything to that article. I only reverted the changes which you had made. Please refer to my edit summary for my reasons.
Alivardi (talk) 18:37, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Sidharth shukla
editThere is no content about his modelling career ,where he became 1st asian to have won world's best model and other modelling work. No media image such as most desirable men in india , biz personallity of the year , ormax media etc. About his personal life. His media image.
Awards section is not complete and full table of awards should be updated Princepratap1234 (talk) 10:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- Requests for edits go on the article talk page, not the talk page of each individual editor.
Alivardi (talk) 10:41, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
editYou are most welcome.
Edit on Jagannath
editPlease let me do this because iam a great devotee of Jagannath and I have researched on him Pratimatripathy (talk) 20:47, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
WAM 2019 Postcard: All postcards are postponed due to the postal system shut down
editDear all participants and organizers,
Since the outbreak of COVID-19, all the postcards are postponed due to the shut down of the postal system all over the world. Hope all the postcards can arrive as soon as the postal system return and please take good care.
Best regards,
Pal family
editHello, I'm Ouchmynips. Hi , I am new to Wikipedia and I noticed you removed my edit on the PAL family page. I am of ethnic Hindu Bangladeshi Zamindari descent, and my ancestors, with the Pal surname have for as long as we can remember also been a strong presence in the Chittagong district of Bangladesh. It is hard to find sources and records of the British East India company from the 19th century but my great grand father Jamuni Chandra Pal ( later anglicized to Paul ) ran and provided the entire boating and maritime infrastructure to the East India company for shipping and logistics from Bengal to Rangoon. I hope this satisfies you and you restore my edit at the earliest. Thank you.
- Hi. I've checked the citation you provided but I'm not seeing any mention of a relationship between the Pals of Chittagong and the Pals of Sylhet, who this article is about. Is there any reason why you believe they're the same family? Remember, Pal is not an unusual surname and not everyone with it has to be related.
Alivardi (talk) 06:33, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
The meaning of the word Mirashdar(মিরাশদার) is said to be rightful heir as per বাংলা ভাষার বিবর্তনমূলক অভিধান . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibnsalsq (talk • contribs) 21:29, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Ibnsalsq: Firstly, a new citation needs to be included in an articles text when you add new information. Secondly, in regards to the word Mirashdar, what the role actually is would be more relevant to the context of the article as opposed to the literal meaning of the word. As an example, the literal meaning of the title Chowdhury is "holder of four". That doesn't mean it makes sense to include that meaning whenever the word is mentioned.
Alivardi (talk) 22:10, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Caste of Hem Chandra Vikramaditya
editHem Chandra Vikramaditya or Hemu was son of a Rajpurohit (Chief Priest) of Raja Ishwar Chandra of Maccheri kingdom of Rajputana during 1490s and early 1500s,in present day Rajasthan. Puran Chand was a Brahmin and after Mughals capture of north India became a saint and lived at Brindavan in the Ashram of Vallabh Sampdray. Manuscripts of Puran Chandra activities are available in Ashram even at present times. He was not a supplier only of Salt Petre (Gun Powder) but manufactured canons in Rewari with Portuguese help and supplied Cannons and Gun powder to Sher Shah Suri's army during 1530s. There is no bar on Brahmins to do innovative works. He was the first Canon manufacturer in North India. Only Mughal king Babur had brought cannons in north India in 1526 for the first time. There are many references to this. This fact that Hemu was a Brahmin needs to be placed on page Hemu. Just because Abul Fazal, Akbar's record keeper described Hemu as a trader of Salt Petre in Akbarnama, Hemu is written as a Vaishy (Bania). All his family members were Brahmins, mostly Purohits with various kingdoms of Rajputs of that time, that had helped him to become a king himself in short time. 103.82.80.206 (talk) 10:04, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Your question
editYou asked at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Iseefire1001 if I thought your concerns were justified. The IP's edit on Iseefire1001's talk page is pretty convincing but the other diffs don't show comparable changes.
Blocks are meant to be preventative, not punitive. In that regard an IP editor is stale within a few days, and there's been no activity from that IP since 27 Mar. A block right now would be preventing nothing.
A {{uw-login}} caution on Iseefire1001's talk page may have been more productive but would now be pointless. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 11:08, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Cabayi: Thanks for replying. Honestly, I wasn't really expecting a block at this point. I just wanted confirmation that there was evidence of wrongdoing here, in case there is ever a repeat of this incident.
Alivardi (talk) 17:45, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
FYI, regarding Battle of Karnal
editThe IP199.82.243.104, is just one of many IPs ran by the same person. See this edit warring report. Watch your back. --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Noted. I'll keep an eye on them. Thanks bud.
Alivardi (talk) 01:23, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Abdul Matin Chowdhury
editI wonder why you reverted the edit I made, which added the details of the subject's family background. The details are completely correct and taken from the same source as the rest of the details in the article. Many thanks. Zindarood (talk) 19:37, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- I had explained my reasons on my edit summary, but I'll elaborate. Firstly, I cannot find a mention of Abdul Wahab Chowdhury on the pages you cited. Secondly, Abdul Wahab is not relevant to this article's subject, since their only apparent connections are that they were very distantly related and that Abdul Wahab had taught at the latter's school two centuries before he was born. This article is about Abdul Matin Chowdhury and any content in it should be directly relevant to him. I hope this cleared up any confusion.
Alivardi (talk) 20:09, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- There is a clear mention in that section of the biography though the page numbers may have been incorrect in my haste. It is normal in biographies to note significant relationships, and in Sufism you ought to know that the idea of spiritual lineage and forebears is even more important than genetic lineage. Maulana was very proud of his connection to Shah Abdul Wahab Chowdhury, and referred constantly to the influence of his teachings. But there is no point explaining this to the ignorant. Zindarood (talk) 22:00, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Petty insults aren't gonna get you anywhere. If you want to write about Abdul Wahab Chowdhury, feel free to create an article for him. Here are instructions on writing your first article. I wish you the best of luck.
Alivardi (talk) 17:57, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Petty insults aren't gonna get you anywhere. If you want to write about Abdul Wahab Chowdhury, feel free to create an article for him. Here are instructions on writing your first article. I wish you the best of luck.
- There is a clear mention in that section of the biography though the page numbers may have been incorrect in my haste. It is normal in biographies to note significant relationships, and in Sufism you ought to know that the idea of spiritual lineage and forebears is even more important than genetic lineage. Maulana was very proud of his connection to Shah Abdul Wahab Chowdhury, and referred constantly to the influence of his teachings. But there is no point explaining this to the ignorant. Zindarood (talk) 22:00, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. I would like, however belatedly, to apologise for my tone, and I defer to your experience on these matters. Zindarood (talk) 11:55, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Zindarood: No problem, looking back at these messages, I think I could have been less blunt myself. Thank you. Alivardi (talk) 16:31, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
Welcome to WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge
editData removed for Maharaja Jawahar Singh and Maharaja Surajmal deliberately from Wikipedia
editRationalThinkerHindu (talk) 21:40, 21 April 2020 (UTC)Dear Alivardi,
It seems data of particular Kings are deleted deliberately. Every now and then we see changes and now entire history is removed for Maharaja Jawahar Singh and Maharaja Suraj Mal . Could you let me know why this has happened. Also , it seems Wikipedia is doing biased editing for particular community and removing data for other communities.
Regards, RationalThinker
- @RationalThinkerHindu: Not the entire history, just your edit which had violated copyright. This was explained both in my edit summary and the message I had left on your talk page. Hope this cleared things up.
Alivardi (talk) 22:28, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Confused in the Blond page
editCan you please have a look at the blond main page or if want to talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond#Asia (on the talk page, right at the bottom I made a section) I want to know are you allowed to edit possible mythical people as blonde only in the Asia section. All of them ethnic groups and historical are not unconfirmed as blonde, that's the mainstream, only a minority view them as blond. I checked and nobody as ever edit any of that since the blond wiki page was created inul 2 weeks ago. Those are ethnic groups don't correspond with modern ethnic groups and other descriptions give them a different version than blond. It doesn't seem like a place to edit historical ethnic groups, the Europe, Oceanic, Africa section doesn't have any of that either. -- Shinoshijak (talk) , 23 April 2020 —Preceding undated comment added 15:12, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- This isn't a topic that I am particularly familiar with and I don't believe I'd be able to provide any meaningful contribution to your discussion. If you're after an unbiased third opinion, I recommend making a request here. Hope that helps.
Alivardi (talk) 16:28, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Editing dispute in Genghis Khan, please take a look
editI asked for a third person opinion but I really don't know if I'm doing it right. I read your dispute with Hunan201p, I think you handled it well. If there's nothing wrong please tell me. Here is the pageh ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Genghis_Khan is at the very bottom Queenplz (talk) 23:01, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but I am not interested in joining another dispute. If you want to request a third opinion, follow the instructions here. Best of luck.
Alivardi (talk) 23:16, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Editing in Maharao Shekha or Shekha of Amerser, please discuss before edit it again
editAlivardi Why you changed the content despite I have mentioned a authenticated source by a very famous historian james tod. I can also give you the newer and other editions of his book so you do not need to complaint poor writing and all. I am updating it again kindly download the book through my given reference link (newer & clear writing edition) than lets discuss. You can check the James tod publication and all the details below 'see also' link and go to the publication segment, Also please tell the reason for removing the pictures & See Also links??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaitanyasinghshekhawat (talk • contribs) 16:01, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- The citation you added, Annals and Antiquities of Rajast'han or the Central and Western Rajpoot States of India by James Tod, was written nearly 200 years ago. As per WP:AGE MATTERS (a Wikipedia policy), using sources this old can be problematic. It is especially inappropriate in the case of this article, since you used it to replace content from a much newer reference. Using more recent editions doesn't change these issues. This is ignoring the fact that Tod's text is filled with inaccuracies which make it a poor reference.
- However, the bigger issue is your style of writing, which was fairly confusing and in some parts made little sense. For example, you seem to imply that Shaikh Burhan had been the father of Shekha, which I'm sure was not your intention. I understand the difficulties of using English as a second language, but the English Wikipedia needs its editors to have a strong competence in it (see WP:COMPETENCE). You might find it easier to make contributions to the Wikipedia of your native language. For example, the Hindi Wikipedia has a page for Shekha here. I hope this clears up any confusion.
Alivardi (talk) 19:15, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- This page details are almost 500 years old so I have tried to relate it more near past which is 200 years ago, also james tod publication is trusted by many government & history departments of various indian universities & senior historians so you can check that also. He spend most of his life in india rajputana or current Rajasthan state(its not your mistake I understand you are not from india). If you talk about your reference writer even he is also lived india almost more than 100 years ago so even his reference is also not trusted or authenticated go to here for his life details. It could be understand james tod spend a lot of more years in Rajputana but A H bingley spend almost nothing in this region so james tod details are more accurate compare to him also he have mentioned almost 50 pages with the details but A H bingley wrote 2 or 3 pages with no details that is also prove my point also second thing it is not only about the edition there are many new books by some other writers I will add them for the reference too. For the example you said the concept of father of Shekha I have corrected it please check and will update in again in more accurate terminology with accurate data. I request you to not delete all the content without discussion, will talk for any other issue. Chaitanyasinghshekhawat (talk) 03:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC) comment added by Chaitanyasinghshekhawat (talk • contribs) 03:53, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- My apologies for the late reply. The qualifications you mentioned for Tod mean little beside the fact that the use of antiquated texts as citations is problematic, as I had mentioned previously. While it may be true that perspectives from closer to the time of a subject can have value, this would not apply here due to the separation of three centuries between Shekha and Tod. And again, the bigger issue in the article is the standard of your writing. I mentioned the confusing description of the relationship between Shekha and Shaikh Burhan as only an example; it is not the only wording problem in the article and besides, has still not been corrected. Since your edits, the page has been marked for having multiple issues, i.e the writing and the inappropriate promotional description of the subject; these were not problems which had existed previously. As I had stated earlier, I suggest that your efforts may be better spent on your own native language's version of the page. And if you are to continue contributing to Wikipedia, I strongly urge you to include page numbers in your citations, which would otherwise be of little use. Thank you.
Alivardi (talk) 23:51, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- My apologies for the late reply. The qualifications you mentioned for Tod mean little beside the fact that the use of antiquated texts as citations is problematic, as I had mentioned previously. While it may be true that perspectives from closer to the time of a subject can have value, this would not apply here due to the separation of three centuries between Shekha and Tod. And again, the bigger issue in the article is the standard of your writing. I mentioned the confusing description of the relationship between Shekha and Shaikh Burhan as only an example; it is not the only wording problem in the article and besides, has still not been corrected. Since your edits, the page has been marked for having multiple issues, i.e the writing and the inappropriate promotional description of the subject; these were not problems which had existed previously. As I had stated earlier, I suggest that your efforts may be better spent on your own native language's version of the page. And if you are to continue contributing to Wikipedia, I strongly urge you to include page numbers in your citations, which would otherwise be of little use. Thank you.
- This page details are almost 500 years old so I have tried to relate it more near past which is 200 years ago, also james tod publication is trusted by many government & history departments of various indian universities & senior historians so you can check that also. He spend most of his life in india rajputana or current Rajasthan state(its not your mistake I understand you are not from india). If you talk about your reference writer even he is also lived india almost more than 100 years ago so even his reference is also not trusted or authenticated go to here for his life details. It could be understand james tod spend a lot of more years in Rajputana but A H bingley spend almost nothing in this region so james tod details are more accurate compare to him also he have mentioned almost 50 pages with the details but A H bingley wrote 2 or 3 pages with no details that is also prove my point also second thing it is not only about the edition there are many new books by some other writers I will add them for the reference too. For the example you said the concept of father of Shekha I have corrected it please check and will update in again in more accurate terminology with accurate data. I request you to not delete all the content without discussion, will talk for any other issue. Chaitanyasinghshekhawat (talk) 03:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC) comment added by Chaitanyasinghshekhawat (talk • contribs) 03:53, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
Two battles of chamkaur were fought. Its title should be second battle of chamkaur. Please edit ^^^^ Ama975193 (talk) 17:35, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Battle of Chamkaur Ama975193 (talk) 17:36, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Please check this source [1]
References
- ^ Jacques, Tony. Dictionary of Battles and Sieges. Greenwood Press. p. 221. ISBN 978-0-313-33536-5. Archived from the original on 2015-06-26.
. Sir two battles of Chamkaur were fought so the name of this title of Second battle of chamkaur. Please edit it. I would be highly thankful to u. Check the above source ^^^^ Ama975193 (talk) 17:39, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Repeated attempt of compromise
editDear Alivardi,
I am trying to be really nice and come to a solution between us when clearly you are disagreeing over and over. I am apparently not the first that you have disagreed with such as users like Tubi719 and TruthSeeker78692. TruthSeeker specifically had the same disagreement I had with you and my most recent edit was thanked by Nithin. You even said for yourself that you would sources and rudely told me not to let others do the work not realizing that I am inexperienced in giving adding citations. I would have preferred a warmer welcome and you tell me often that you wanted to talk to me from the beginning. If you kindly look back at our own conversation history you will clearly see that not once did you suggest a compromise but rather you suggested I get consensus from the Islamic Board and although that is a valid suggestion, it is very wrong for you to say that you were trying to compromise by talking to me directly as I was trying to do. After this final edit where I did as you said (adding sources) to the previous version, you AGAIN have made a revert but this time belittling my opinion with your comment of those views on unity being “mere lip service” as opposed to directly referring to those practices. What makes it an invalid contention because I don’t think a single person will say “stabbing the effigies of the revered Sunni caliphs in Iran by some [not alp]” and “although this may go against the views of Iranians at large about unity, especially due to the emphasis of Sunni-Shia relations by the supreme Iranian leaders” are not directly linked. Please tell me how people stabbing effigies representing those dear to Sunnis is not in direct contradiction to the views of the leaders about Sunni-Shia relations. I think I have a point here I will make a final revert to your change. This time please TALK to me I am open to know what you suggest as opposed to directing me to the Islamic Board consensus page. Physics7 (talk) 02:07, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello Alivardi. I just wanted to let you know that I gave a direct piece of evidence of the Iranian leaders being against these type of practices and ironically a good source was the exact same source that was quoted for the effigy stabbing and it (the fatwa about abusing companions) was the immediate next sentence or few sentences from what you mentioned. I included it under a reference number 4 next to the word “fatwa” and hopefully this will finally allow us to stand at mutual grounds. Physics7 (talk) 02:35, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- There's a lot to unpack here, so I'll go through it point-by-point:
- You've had three different editors say that the best action is to open a talk page discussion (see here, here and here). You say you've got backing from other editors; this would have been the best way to prove it. I really don't see why you were so reluctant.
- You say you were attempting to open dialogue for compromise, yet you forced your changes on the article immediately after each message. This is not conductive to a polite and progressive debate. It suggests to me that you weren't even going to take my views into account since you didn't even allow me the chance to reply. Do you not see the contradiction of you saying "please talk to me", yet not allowing me the chance to respond? This type of behaviour is mentioned on the third sentence of the edit warring page; I really urge you to read this before you interact with any other editors.
- I wasn't the one that told you "not to let others do the work" (see here).
- I wasn't intending to belittle you when I said "mere lip service". I was actually describing Khomeini, who was the one doing it.
- In regards to you asking "how people stabbing effigies representing those dear to Sunnis is not in direct contradiction to the views of the leaders", this goes against Wikipedia's policy of No original research. This means that unless your source outright states something (in this case, being respectful of Muhammad's companions), you can't mention it in the article.
- With that last point in mind, your latest source which you just mentioned is far more approprate in that regard and I am perfectly happy with its use. I am letting you know now that I will cut down your wording slightly since it deviates a bit too much from the article subject (see WP:ROC).
- As a final note, I will remind you again that in the future, please use the article talk page to discuss any changes you make that seem controversial. This whole mess could have been avoided if you had done so when I had initially told you.
Alivardi (talk) 03:45, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
I don’t understand what you meant by number 1. Do you mean I didn’t mention which editors were in agreement with my edits? I mentioned at least 3 and not sure if there were more. For the second point why am I the one forcing something here and not making a discussion? I even double-checked our conversation history to make sure what I was saying is correct in this talk page about the whole compromise issue and sending you messages on your talk page but you didn’t respond and instead told me to get a consensus (the other options being actually talking or a dispute resolution where I neither wanted the latter). I made the edit thinking nobody will disagree and I was shocked that you had reverted it. What I did was revert it back and in my comment asked you why you would do something like that and how wrong it was so from the start I was telling you what was wrong. You only kept saying “not censored” which didn’t really address the problem I had with it and I responded by telling you not to consider it as such. Whether I am wrong or right is irrelevant but I did clearly address your points and I felt very hurt when you kept repeating “not censored” whilst reverting it, especially as you were more experienced on Wikipedia and brought other editors into our heated dispute which was topped off by the whole warring thing. The 3-revert violation rule by the way is within a 24-hour period which we both did so that was out of the line. A revert from vandalism doesn’t count as a violation but this was was more of a dispute and disagreement so that wouldn’t be fair to hold against me either. I was also upset when you told me not to make other editors do my work when I clearly just didn’t know how to properly make references and it wasn’t a matter of not having references because I copy-pasted them my edit comment. Fortunately I figured out how to cite references. Let us put this past us but I am still surprised why would you include such information? There is a ton of information in our everyday life that we don’t mention for a variety of reasons and consequences like the colour of our bodily waste or how many white people in London eat their nasal mucus. We don’t call that censorship if it isn’t mentioned because it shouldn’t BE mentioned. Physics7 (talk) 15:18, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Accidentally pressed publish too soon so just as a continuation... because it shouldn’t BE mentioned. I agree with you about mentioning it if it has academic or another type of value abd represents the true opinion of the group at large and hence painting a correct picture but something which is 1) from a source that mentions practices and opinions of rejected scholars like ayatollah Shirazi, Yasir Habib and other political thought of such scholars 2) misrepresents (as most do not follow those scholars mentioned above) and paints a wrong picture as these things are disallowed by the Iranian scholars who are taught otherwise in the Islamic seminars of Qom 3) has no academic value under the light of the legal verdicts that surround those practices unless you specifically mention the proponents of those practices and contrast it with the larger view of scholars who are accepted by the wider Shia community on those practices and the view of those proponents by the community then yes this would definitely paint a much better picture, be of greater academic value for those who want to research Shia practice and opinion, and on top of that avoid the consequences of the negative portrayal where a simple-minded reader would not be able to differentiate Shia opinion from the opinion of those who the community are always speaking out against Physics7 (talk) 15:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- I don't know how much more clearly I can explain this to you. I tried to be as polite as I could in my last message, but it's evident that you didn't properly read it since you are still accusing me of saying "not to let others do the work". I repeat, that was another editor, not me.
- I strongly reccomend that you listen to what I have said, because I've already had one Administrator suggest that I report you for disruptive editing. Try to familiarise yourself with our policies, otherwise you're going to keep being involved in unnecessary editing disputes.
- I have no interest in being involved in this matter any further. I request that unless there are any more issues with the article, that you please stop contacting me. Thank you.
Alivardi (talk) 16:04, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
That’s fine with me, but you can’t just ASSUME I didn’t read what you said. I have no idea why I thought you were the one who told me “not to let others do the work” in any case that shouldn’t be a reason for a shift in tone in this message. Take care Physics7 (talk) 13:31, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello sir
editHello sir Whts yr problem Jat Community Sunny 12:15, 22 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunny bharat (talk • contribs)
Please support me sir Sunny 12:22, 22 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunny bharat (talk • contribs)
Sunny 12:25, 22 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunny bharat (talk • contribs)
Please help me sir & support me please Sunny 14:28, 22 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunny bharat (talk • contribs)
I've nominated Pratapgarh Kingdom for DYK
editYou can view it here: Template:Did you know nominations/Pratapgarh Kingdom.
I encourage you to nominate future articles you create, expand 5x in size, or improve to GA, as most of the content in DYK is from North America and Europe. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:28, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Bharatpur State
editHi Alivardi, The information in bharatpur state about origin of sinsinwar is sourced from a gazetter source of 19th century which is not reliable. In gazetter it is wrongly claimed that Balchandra was a Jadoun Rajput because time line of balchandra coincide roughly with time of Gaurid invasion. no contempory evidence of 12th centuries mentions these jadoun bhatti clan. Moreover geneologies of jadoun bhatti clan itself seems sourced from some Pala fudatories of region during tripatrite confilct. So I request you remove this unauthentic information from bharatpur state. I think you should read original source. I may provide you if you need. Thanking you. - Nightcrawler44 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nightcrawler44 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Mughal
editHello. I don't understand why have you accused me of vandalising. If you dont like an edit doesn't mean that it is vandalism. Also, I have seen that you are taking a chance to add something in Babur article, in favour of LGBT. I don't understand it. Was Babur NOT a hetero then? Thanks 83.137.6.245 (talk) 14:50, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- I referred to it as appearing to be vandalism because that is what it seemed to be. Describing Aurangzeb as "4/4 Rajput" makes no sense both mathematically and genetically, with the latter being due to his mother, Mumtaz Mahal, being of Persian background. In regards to the short discussion on Babur that I had several months ago, I was advocating for the removal of an LGBT descriptive, not its addition.
Alivardi (talk) 15:03, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Rollback granted
editHi Alivardi. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:
- Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
- Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
- Rollback should never be used to edit war.
- If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
- Use common sense.
If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:56, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'll do my best. Thank you.
Alivardi (talk) 23:59, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
A Barnstar for you
editThe Barnstar of Diligence | ||
For contributing to the article Muhammad regularlyسب سے بڑی گڑبڑ(talk) 14:21, 3 June 2020 (UTC) |
About chauhan clan
editChauhan clan is of rajputs not gujjar and jats secondly the wiki pages about rajput history are being edited anonymously by anyone and by this wikipedia loses its credibility so please look into this problem Adityarajsingh4033 (talk) 20:13, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- The content was sourced and you did not provide a valid reason for its removal.
Alivardi (talk) 20:15, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
And from which source please provide it to me anonymous fake historians are roaming all around the internet please provide me source Adityarajsingh4033 (talk) 20:17, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Chauhan is a agnivanshi rajput clan Adityarajsingh4033 (talk) 20:17, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- Check the end of each sentence you removed content from.
Alivardi (talk) 20:20, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Just listen go to a trusted source of yours and check chauhan is not just a surname but agnivanshi clan of rajputs Adityarajsingh4033 (talk) 20:27, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Prathviraj raaso and prathviraj Vijay are two ancient books written on chohan family in both book's prathviraj Chauhan father is written Gurjar and his fort gurjargarh. Jogindergurjar (talk) 07:38, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Chauhan are mainly Gurjar not rajput and they are suryavanshi king's not this fake chandravanshi Jogindergurjar (talk) 07:40, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Talk:Muhammad
editI'm aware of the Wikipedia rules. I did make a reply to a number of edit requests on Talk:Muhammad, but only one really I think was borderline abusive. The one which you replied too. Alright, I apologize for that, and if the others were also abusive, for them too (though I don't think they were). I'm just getting really tired of this demand like every month (that's been going on for like 10+ years) when Wikipedia has made clear that the Muhammad images are acceptable. --99.245.168.121 (talk) 12:08, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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Help
editHi Alivardi, please check Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. I'm being attacked by users Chaipau and Aman Kumar Goel and being accused of promoting Bengali POV in the Miya people article. The article originally contained barely anything - it was me that revived it. Chaipau noticed this and started causing havoc in the article (check its history). Goel actually reported me once for my involvement in the Bakarkhani incident and got me BLOCKED a few months ago. He STRONGLY opposes everything about me and is bringing up my past interactions with him to use against me. I only mean good but these Wikimenaces are making me look like the bad guy. Would really appreciate your support. UserNumber (talk) 20:08, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
Reg removal of content from page of Raj Singh
editWhy did you remove the content of the page which I added from reputable source? Sajaypal007 (talk) 20:35, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- What reputable source? There was no citation.
Alivardi (talk) 21:02, 23 June 2020 (UTC)- I was about to add that too, i was working on multiple sources. Also you should ask for citation first instead of removing the content outright. Anyway I added multiple citations and editing it as we speak. So just give someone a little bit of time and/or hint before removing something.Sajaypal007 (talk)
- I had no reason to expect you to add citations over an hour after your initial edit. Why not add the content when you had the citations ready? There's no rush.
Alivardi (talk) 21:24, 23 June 2020 (UTC)- I was using wiki on mobile at that time hence the delay, anyway i did add the citations now.Sajaypal007 (talk)
- I had no reason to expect you to add citations over an hour after your initial edit. Why not add the content when you had the citations ready? There's no rush.
- I was about to add that too, i was working on multiple sources. Also you should ask for citation first instead of removing the content outright. Anyway I added multiple citations and editing it as we speak. So just give someone a little bit of time and/or hint before removing something.Sajaypal007 (talk)
lol for your thank, this would be an appreciation for me
editI would be helpful to assist you in WikiProject BangladeshMajun e Baqi (talk) 11:20, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello Ali-vardi! User:Alivardi - At it's best your warnings on my talk-page for my edits is *cute*! "ONLY! PERSONAL! BLOCK! those worlds carry weight. And, that was a quick edit from a seasoned(?) editor. Unfortunately, I'm not a full-time editor (Is there one? :-)). I suggest we refresh understanding of WP:WHYBLOCK WP:NOPUNISH WP:AC/DS It's not difficult to go back and refresh. I'm a wiki donor, and avid user - At best, you can question my tone, but calling it "personal attacks" on my first ever edits/remarks is a s-t-r-e-t-c-h. I see a pattern here. The editor, whose unexplained edits were questioned could have responded. But, NOpe! It has to be round-robbin pack hunt for showcase neutrality. And, archives are editable for a reason. Wiki discourages it's editing. But, if they really wanted to STOP all archive edits, its less than a MINUTE of tech-effort to change a flag in the code. You retorted to quick acid-washing of all my edits. But, chose to completely ignore the unexplained (borderline) condescending editorial responses of those who have admin rights to Chhatrapati Shivaji) wiki. I expected better! You can BLOCK me, but that may not be adhering to wiki-guidelines. And, the above is not a PERSONAL attack. [CAPS for emphasis] And, not everyone is for HIRE. H2umvee (talk) 22:10, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Hey there, I was wondering if you (and anyone you know that could take part) could help me on the Islami Bishwakosh article. It was a very large project in Bangladesh, and am very surprised that the article didn't exist previously. UserNumber (talk) 15:05, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Reg: References to the edits on Tipu Sultan
editI went through the Help section to add the reference links, but didn't get much understanding of it. Have added the reference URl, hope that's also the correct way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chetankcp (talk • contribs) 14:49, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
A Barnstar for You!
editOriginal Barnstar
Hello! Thank you for correcting the mistake I made in the article Nana Saheb! I shall not repeat such mistakes in future. |
Kingdom of Jeypore
editHello Alivardi,
I’d like your help in dealing with the current situation in the page: Kingdom of Jeypore which has been semi-locked by a bunch of British Admins. They have edited sloppily and mentioned many irrelevant facts to disdain the dynasty’s rule. They describe them as a little kingdom in many places despite the kingdom having an area of more than 26,000 km2.
Sir would you please help me and edit that article, I have seen your work in some other history articles therefore decided to seek your help in this matter. Indopaedia (talk) 00:45, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
About Maharana Pratap
editRespected Alivardi The article about Maharana Pratap is very short, but there is a lot about him in the history ,so I would like and hope that you would help me in this topic and I am going to edit and add more information about this legend. ThanksShiamPothuganti (talk) 15:05, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Image of Rana Sanga
editHello,I notice u made some changes in Wikipedia on ur own without any reF,Like u remove the image of Rana Sanga His Legacy section and also Seige of Mandsaur which are important things u removed from sources.Please ree add it especially his Image. Paul white2013 (talk) 00:27, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Paul white2013: It's pretty obvious that you are Showbiz826. Continuing to make new accounts after having been blocked for sockpuppetry is not gonna help you get back to editing here.
Alivardi (talk) 01:07, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Edits on Jawahar Singh page.
editOn 8th august some IP address removed the citations and a few lines without any ground from Jawahar Singh article. The lines were supported by the source too. Some 10 days later another user came and he removed the whole section of maonda battle with reason that it is unsourced, he didnt see previous edits, if he had seen then he would know that it was not unsourced but someone a few days ago just removed the source. Instead of reverting the edits. This user removed the old section and added a new one which is lot bigger and doesnt make any sense.
The problem with this section is many fold.
- Although it cites source, the section modify the sources to look it like less offensive, mention of defeat of Jawahar singh in later battle at kama is removed. See the page of Battle of Maonda and Mandholi for full information which is suppressed in this article.
- Due to so much info and the offensive terms removed, article doesnt make much sense.
- The article of Jawahar Singh looks more like article of Maonda battle, the whole article is filled with just this event from Pushkar bath to the battle. Nothing much about Jawahar Singh himself.
The article at the time of your last edit on 7th august was good. The info about battle was short and precise. It was backed by sources too which some other user removed. I believe the article should be reverted to that. Sajaypal007 (talk) 10:47, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Sajaypal007: I don't believe a full revert is the best action here; the article seemed to have problems even prior to that initial edit and some of the subsequent edits have been beneficial. I'd instead advise that you correct any issues that you have spotted in the current version of the article. Perhaps even open a discussion on the article talk page or contact Heba Aisha directly? You seem knowledgeable about this topic so I'll leave the ultimate decision to you. Hope that helps.
Alivardi (talk) 14:14, 5 September 2020 (UTC) - @Alivardi: Actually I talked with Heba Aisha earlier for some other page as well and had a long futile discussion. I didn't want to create another long discussion so I asked you. Maybe I should talk to Heba again. Thanks for the reply btw. Sajaypal007 (talk) 20:22, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
showbiz
editSee [7]. FYI. --RegentsPark (comment) 16:48, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
lead
editHello. I heard you don't need to include citation in the lead, or introduction of a wiki article, as the introduction is a kind of summery for the main body of the article. what do you think? Ghazaalch (talk) 10:58, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Ghazaalch: Sure, as long as the content in question is cited in the main article and can be considered one of the (to quote WP:MOSLEAD) "most important points". Thanks for the message.
Alivardi (talk) 11:58, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
/* Babri Masjid */ Unwanted reference removed.
editHello, Thanks for your note. I have added additional note to justify removing the content in question. "Removed a statement that is an inaccurate interpretation of a detailed court judgement by quoting a section of the press. A court judgement needs to be reviewed in full to avoid being taken out of context." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdeepakr (talk • contribs) 12:28, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi,
editI am having trouble adding just a single source in the page of Shivaji while mentioning him as CSM. I seem to follow WP:HISTRW but it still being reverted. I think more than one cite should do a better job here. The page of Akbar also overuse citations when mentioning him as The Great. Should that be scrubbed off too? Thanks and please help. Jenos450 (talk) 19:53, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Jenos450. Regarding your concerns about being reverted, RegentsPark has already elaborated on their reasoning as well as suggested what sort of source you should be looking for, so I won't repeat what has already been said. Akbar isn't exactly an example of an ideal article and it is easy to find many such problems in its content. I have now corrected the issue you had spotted there and I thank you for pointing it out to me.
Alivardi (talk) 21:36, 20 September 2020 (UTC)- @Jenos450: I actually don't think the bar for a source is very high for "popularly known as ...." - especially given the number of requests we get on the talk page. All you need to do is to find a source that says that he is popularly known as Chatrapati Shivaji or Shivaji Maharaj or Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj or whatever combination is in a source. It doesn't need to satisfy HISTRS because that popularity is not historical. But, the source should be reliable and should clearly say that these are his popular names. --RegentsPark (comment) 23:57, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you Regents and Alivardi, that was kind. Jenos450 (talk) 06:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Jenos450: I actually don't think the bar for a source is very high for "popularly known as ...." - especially given the number of requests we get on the talk page. All you need to do is to find a source that says that he is popularly known as Chatrapati Shivaji or Shivaji Maharaj or Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj or whatever combination is in a source. It doesn't need to satisfy HISTRS because that popularity is not historical. But, the source should be reliable and should clearly say that these are his popular names. --RegentsPark (comment) 23:57, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
Rao Tula ram
edithello sir I am trying to write on Rao Tula ram but some person called hindushatrana is reverting my edits. he even used a anon account to revert one edit of mine. Is that allowed? please help as I am new and my edits are getting reverted even if I give book name.
- Hi Harishbiswal. I don't think there's any reason to be certain that the anonymous user is HinduKshatrana. I recommend for now that the best action is to discuss the edit in question with HinduKshatrana directly.
Alivardi (talk) 12:30, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
ok thanks.
Message
editHi Am Babur258 why can you change Battle of ghagra article. you not edit at last I report you. Babur258 (talk) 08:15, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- Pradeep, you're way too old be messing around with Wikipedia articles for fun. Find a more productive hobby.
Alivardi (talk) 09:48, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
About removing my edits in Shivaji
editI wrote about Shivaji's conflict with Belawadi Samshtana. And he was defeated in the war and there are so many contemporary books Are available that tells about defeat of Shivaji by Belawadi Mallamma. Samodeyar (talk) 02:40, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Samodeyar: When an editor adds new content to an article, it's their job to provide evidence for it in the form of citations. You say there are many books that justify your additions; cite them. Just make sure they are reliable. I'd also advise that you be careful with your wording when you add content. I'm seeing some potential neutrality issues.
Alivardi (talk) 10:10, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Thank you . I'll correct it Samodeyar (talk) 17:34, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Great minds think alike (+ Barnstar)
editWhat a Brilliant Idea Barnstar | ||
Excellent work on the Shah Jalal Dargah article. Interestingly enough, I've been collecting some information on this topic for the past few months though I didn't get the time to complete this project. Awesome that you've made it; making it a lot easier for me to just add any extra information I've found :) UserNumber (talk) 15:03, 27 September 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you! I'm glad you like the article, though I am sorry that you didn't get to finish your version. And I will of course appreciate any additions that you make.
Alivardi (talk) 19:07, 27 September 2020 (UTC)- Oh no it's totally fine! My "version" was mostly notes made on the subject - nowhere near as neat and concise.UserNumber (talk) 08:34, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia Asian Month 2020
editHi WAM organizers and participants!
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editThe Editor's Barnstar | |
Great work at Shah Jalal Dargah, nice to see your first DYK nomination going through!:) Zayeem (talk) 20:04, 5 October 2020 (UTC) |
DYK nomination of Shah Jalal Dargah
editHello! Your submission of Shah Jalal Dargah at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 19:08, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
Correcter
editArticles cleaner | |
Thank you for warning and correcting me at the article Aulikara Empire! I promise, I will never make the mistake of poorly sourced material, but I just don't understand and read Wikipedia's LONG help pages without getting bored. Besides, I am just an 11-year old who has created an account in the name of my mother and me, so please guide me Tulika and Satvik (talk) 10:50, 16 October 2020 (UTC) |
Sockpuppet
editThese edits diff, diff seem sock edits (range partially blocked). Would you kindy check them? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:12, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- Looks like you were right, reverted now. Thanks for the heads up.
Alivardi (talk) 18:50, 22 October 2020 (UTC)- You are welcome. Which sockfarm is this? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:55, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- User:Showbiz826; see their sock investigation here. They seem to alternate between creating sock accounts and editing anonymously (see the message from OhNoitsJamie, the admin who performed the range block, here.
Alivardi (talk) 20:01, 22 October 2020 (UTC)- Oh.. that one. I remember. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 06:40, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- User:Showbiz826; see their sock investigation here. They seem to alternate between creating sock accounts and editing anonymously (see the message from OhNoitsJamie, the admin who performed the range block, here.
- You are welcome. Which sockfarm is this? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:55, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Taraf
editHi, I was wondering whether the title of the article Taraf Kingdom is appropriate or not. I titled it as such, directly translating it from the Bengali "rajjo". However, the modern definition of kingdom is different. Taraf was nearly always a feudal territory, and rarely independent. Do you recommend changing it to Taraf State or something else? UserNumber (talk) 13:10, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- That's a good point. I'm gonna check if there's much of a precedence for this sort of thing with similar article subjects. Could I get back to you a bit later?
Alivardi (talk) 02:29, 1 November 2020 (UTC)- "Taraf State" is a good possibility, though I wonder if it gives an impression of political continuity which may not be entirely accurate, considering Taraf effectively ceased to exist a few times throughout history. Articles about historic areas which existed under similar circumstances seem to favour including "region" in brackets after the title [e.g. Bhati (region), Media (region) and Syria (region)]. However, that sort of title may not be a perfect fit here since this article focuses on the history of Taraf as a political entity rather than as a nebulous geographic area. Personally, I think the safest option would be to just do "Taraf (Bengal)"; its technically accurate and avoids the above issues.
- Remember, most of this is just my own personal impression so feel free to disregard it and go with whatever you think is the best fit.
Alivardi (talk) 01:18, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Remember, most of this is just my own personal impression so feel free to disregard it and go with whatever you think is the best fit.
DYK for Shah Jalal Dargah
editOn 5 November 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Shah Jalal Dargah, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that according to local legend, the catfish that inhabit the reservoir at the Shah Jalal Dargah (grave pictured) are the cursed and reincarnated soldiers of Gour Govinda? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Shah Jalal Dargah. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Shah Jalal Dargah), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Battle of Ghagra
editHey why can you edit Battle of Ghagra My edit is correct At last you edit I request to blocked you TheHenry123 (talk) 07:28, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Jahan Ara Begum
editStop your unreasonable reverting of my edits. Don't blame 'grammar errors' made by others on article's image captions on me. I already told you I ONLY added a RELIABLE NEWSPAPER SOURCE to the article, don't confuse the issue by mentioning 'grammar errors' and other irrelevant stuff as your reason for reverting before you get in trouble on Wikipedia. Grammar error is not an acceptable reason for reverting other peoples' edits. For your information, it's not possible for Wikipedia to list each and every reliable newspaper source from all the countries of the world in its guidelines. It would become too lengthy a list, Wikipedia is not a directory. Ngrewal1 (talk) 21:06, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Ngrewal1: I am not blaming the grammar errors on you. I did not believe your edits were in bad faith. I was simply reverting what I believed to have been a mistake and have attempted to be polite in my edit summaries. There really was no need for you to send me such an agressive message, especially in regards to what is really a very minor issue. I do not have an interest in pursuing this further. I just hope you remember in future that even though we can get upset during disagreements, in order for editors to successfully achieve a proper consensus, we need to maintain civility and treat each other with respect.
Alivardi (talk) 22:09, 19 November 2020 (UTC)- I also agree with you. Let's treat each other with respect. I am saying this sincerely. My contributions history on Wikipedia since 2012 will show you that I hardly ever Revert other people's work unless I absolutely had to do it. This fact in itself shows that I respect other peoples' work. Ngrewal1 (talk) 22:35, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Missing cite in Sultan Husayn Bayqara
editThe article cites "Woods (1990)" but no such source is listed in bibliography. Can you please add? Also, suggest installing a script to highlight such errors in the future. All you need to do is copy and paste importScript('User:Svick/HarvErrors.js'); // Backlink: [[User:Svick/HarvErrors.js]]
to your common.js page. Thanks, Renata (talk) 04:53, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Ditto re "Beveridge (1922)" in Umar Shaikh Mirza II. Renata (talk) 05:06, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- My bad, now corrected. Thanks for the heads up.
Alivardi (talk) 12:04, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
ArbCom 2020 Elections voter message
editRegarding your reversion on page "Timeline of history of Rajasthan"
edit[[8]]
You reverted the edits by saying it was case of sockpuppetry. If its allowed to tell, can you tell me whose sock was it? Sajaypal007 (talk) 21:05, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
- Our old friend User:Showbiz826, who you may remember previously contacting you; see their sock investigation here. They seem to be mainly editing anonymously now. The admin OhNoitsJamie performed a range block for the most targeted articles (see the message they left Showbiz regarding the block here), but some manual reverts are still necessary.
Alivardi (talk) 23:31, 25 November 2020 (UTC)- Oh yeah, I remember. I saw similar range ip address editing Kachhwaha page hence I asked. Thanks for the reply by the way. Sajaypal007 (talk) 06:20, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Chaulukya (solanki) dynasty
editAlivardi sir, pls have a loot at solanki dynasty and tell me what's the wrong with those reference as I have provided ? Are they not valid ? I have attached governmental and Research book of a historian I think more appropriate than anything else even Britannica itself said that Rajput was sankrit word means son of a king. But govt. and book clearly mentioned that they were gurjars. I have more governmental evidence if you required for the authenticity to check that Rajputs of chauhan, pratihar, solanki etc were gurjars . Ravi mavi (talk) 18:49, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
A request
editHey, I was wondering if you could help me out and make a page on Monraj Zamindari, I know your fed up with me but I have nothing to do. The monraj family was my maternal grandfather's family. There history was written down on books which is no more. But I'd like to post information on our family that I've heard from my grandfather and mother. I have no online sources which is why I could not edit on the prithimpassa family page. But if u could make a page on Monraj Zamindari then I'd really appreciate it. Shamsher Rahman (talk) 13:25, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but if there aren't any reliable sources which discuss a subject, then Wikipedia probably isn't the place for it. If you really did want to discuss your grandfather's family, I suggest creating your own separate website about them. I know a few former Zamindar families have done so; see this one for instance. Hope you find this helpful.
Alivardi (talk) 16:39, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
About titles, honorifics and appeal to popularity
editHello and greetings,
This is just for your kind info. Since previously you have participated in an inconclusive RfC discussion at this RfC in year going by, and since some related aspects are under discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Titles, honorifics and appeal to popularity may be you want to join in to share your inputs or opinions.
Thanks and regards
Merry Christmas!
editMerry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021! | |
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Merry Christmas
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Timurid sources
editHi Alivardi and merry Christmas (that is if you're celebrating, if not, then good day sir!), I've noticed you've contributed quite a lot to Timurid-related articles. I've recently acquired two sources about them which are rich in information, do you happen to have them? If not, then I would gladly send them to you.
These are the sources:
- Manz, Beatrice Forbes (2007). Power, Politics and Religion in Timurid Iran. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-1-139-46284-6.
- Subtelny, Maria (2007). Timurids in Transition: Turko-Persian Politics and Acculturation in Medieval Iran. Brill. ISBN 978-90-04-16031-6.
--HistoryofIran (talk) 20:20, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- @HistoryofIran: Merry Christmas! (I don't personally celebrate it, but it's kinda unavoidable where I live). I think I've actually already got those books. Guess we're both good at hunting down sources! Nevertheless, I appreciate the kind offer.
Alivardi (talk) 08:21, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Holiday greetings!
editHi Alivardi. Merry Christmas and best wishes for 2021 to you, your family, and your friends! --RegentsPark (comment) 16:29, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
editAlivardi,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:29, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
Aurangzeb
editAssalamualaikum. I think that the lede (Aurangzeb) should briefly mention about the Anglo-Mughal War. As for the section itself, should be changed from child's war to Anglo-Mughal. Could you make these changes or shall I just leave a message on Aurangzeb's talk page and you can then do something? Jzk 79.75.61.14 (talk) 18:41, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- @79.75.61.14: I'm not very familiar with the conflict to be honest. It's probably better to post something on the article's talk page.
Alivardi (talk) 19:33, 11 January 2021 (UTC)- Ok I will, please do intervene in the talk page, as Kautilya always make problems and might oppose it. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.39.81 (talk) 17:36, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Regarding change in edit done by me.
editWhy have you changed the edit , since I have given proper reference. Don't do this , when given proper reference , if you changing give proper explanation . Divyanshu4226 (talk) 06:14, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Divyanshu4226: Could you please clarify what edit you are referring to?
Alivardi (talk) 12:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Showbiz sock
editSaw your SPI report. That's an interesting one, there certainly are some similarities. What makes me less sure is there is some overlap timewise with prior socks, and I'm not sure SB is competent enough to manage multiple socks. That said, I'm not sure CU has been run on the past few socks, so certainly possible. The other thing I spotted from PH is they edit wrestling articles, and I haven't seen SB do that before - checked 500+ edits on each of their two busiest IP ranges. Same caste-pushing though, and pushing and shoving and pushing and cramming and ... I can understand why Sitush threw up their hands. Ravensfire (talk) 01:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Ravensfire: @Chariotrider555: I'm certain it's showbiz, the wording is just too similar for it to be coincidence:
As Noted by Indian Scholar Jadunath Sarkar who was first Indian historian to use Rajput Sources while writting about Rajput history conclude that few geneologies upto Lord Rama and few of his descendants upto Athithi are based on list and details given in Hindu Puranas and apart from minor differences they are exactly same relating to the Rathores and other Rajput clans in Medieval Period Like Kushwahas of Amber, Guhilas or Sissdoias of Medapata. -Previously blocked sock
According to Indian Scholar Jadunath Sarkar who was first Indian historian to use Rajput Sources while writting about Rajput Past conclude that the few geneologies upto Lord Rama and few of his descendants upto Athithi are in the list and details given in Hindu Puranas and apart from minor differences of name they are exactly same relating to the Rathores and other Rajput clans in Medieval Period Like Kushwahas of Amber, Guhilas or Sissdoias of Medapata. -Pseudo Nihilist
- Alivardi (talk) 02:00, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Alivardi, totally get why you'd file the report! They've also tried to use arguments from SB's IP socks on talk pages to demonstrate support. Ravensfire (talk) 02:02, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah that's a another level of disruptive. Re my report though, if you and Chariotrider were unconvinced at first, I guess I do need to tweak it a bit to make it a bit more airtight.
Alivardi (talk) 02:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)- Alivardi, CU has blocked 'em as a SB sock - nice job on the report! Ravensfire (talk) 13:48, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah that's a another level of disruptive. Re my report though, if you and Chariotrider were unconvinced at first, I guess I do need to tweak it a bit to make it a bit more airtight.
- Alivardi, totally get why you'd file the report! They've also tried to use arguments from SB's IP socks on talk pages to demonstrate support. Ravensfire (talk) 02:02, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Citation on Birbal Page
editHello Alivardi, I see you have reverted my changes, on the Page Birbal, in spite of the fact that my source was reliable. I will be indebted to you if you cast light on it. What was wrong with my source? It was Library of Congress. I am saddened. Ayushsinha2222 (talk) 20:58, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
You are absolutely right. I will find out more reliable-sources. Thank you so much. Ayushsinha2222 (talk) 21:06, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Below part is seen in edit area , BUT NOT in article page of Mir Osman Ali Khan
editHello Ali, Aswk. The below part is seen in the edit area, BUT NOT in the article page of Mir Osman Ali Khan. Something fishy going on here. Someone who doesn't want this to be seen in Wikipedia!
Donations towards Hindu temples
editThe Nizam donated Rs. 82,825 to the Yadagirigutta temple at Bhongir, Rs. 29,999 to the Sita Ramachandraswamy temple, Bhadrachalam[1] and Rs. 8,000 to the Tirupati Balaji Temple.[2]
He also donated Rs. 50,000 towards the re-construction of Sitarambagh temple located in the old city of Hyderabad,[1] and bestowed a grant of 100,000 Hyderabadi rupees towards the reconstruction of Thousand Pillar Temple.[3]
After hearing about the Golden Temple of Amritsar through Maharaja Ranjit Singh,[4][5] Mir Osman Ali Khan started providing it with yearly grants.[6][7]— Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikibhai110 (talk • contribs)
References
- ^ a b "A 'miser' who donated generously". 20 September 2010. Archived from the original on 5 February 2019. Retrieved 12 August 2018.
- ^ "Nizam gave funding for temples, and Hindu educational institutions". 28 May 2013. Archived from the original on 8 July 2018. Retrieved 9 July 2018.
- ^ "Attempt to portray Nizam as 'intolerant oppressor' decried". Gulf News. Archived from the original on 30 July 2019. Retrieved 16 July 2020.
- ^ "Maharaja Ranjit Singh's contributions to Harimandir Sahib". Archived from the original on 17 April 2015. Retrieved 1 March 2019.
- ^ "A Brief History of The Nizams of Hyderabad". Archived from the original on 2 April 2019. Retrieved 16 July 2020.
- ^ Jaganath, Dr Santosh. The History of Nizam's Railways System. ISBN 9781312496477. Archived from the original on 15 September 2020. Retrieved 27 July 2020.
- ^ Morgan, Diane (2007). From Satan's Crown to the Holy Grail: Emeralds in Myth, Magic, and History. Greenwood Publishing Group. ISBN 9780275991234. Archived from the original on 15 September 2020. Retrieved 27 July 2020.
- @Wikibhai110: Looks like someone made a mistake when adding a maintenance tag, probably wasn't anything malicious. It's been corrected now. Thanks for pointing the problem out.
Alivardi (talk) 17:15, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Iam.20.M socks
editYou'd brought this up on my talk page a couple of months back, just FYI, I blocked two socks -- ArmdShahAbdali, Shahtahmasp -- there are likely more. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 01:43, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Recent edits
editThis looks kinda POV caste cruft, especially since they have removed some content. Would you kindly take a look at it? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:54, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Changes in Jagat Gosain
editHello, I request you please review the changes in the article Jagat Gosain made by me as well as another user called historian4050. The latter has been removing my edits as well as the references and adding their own edits without reliable sources. I, therefore, request you please review both of our changes and remove anything that is unnecessary. Manavati (talk) 12:38, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Manavati: It looks like they've stopped editing for now but I'll keep an eye out. I recommend next time that you don't unnecessarily call their edits vandalism, it seems to have upset them.
Alivardi (talk) 18:51, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Okay thank you. I'll make sure of that. Manavati (talk) 19:39, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Chauhan
editWhere it is written in prathviraj raaso that Chauhan is rajput,check the book first then place ur shit.every where Gurjar is written in it Jogindergurjar (talk) 07:36, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Medini Rai vs Medini Rai Khangar
editDespite your best efforts to revert the attempts by User:Ashishthakur9752 to change references to Medini Rai to Medini Rai Khangar, this person is still active. He has now created a Wikipedia article with the title Medini Rai Khangar which has identical content to the article Medini Rai (other than the change of title). As you seem to be trying to deal with this user, I thought you might want to take action to address this deliberate evasion of your reverts and this unnecessary duplication of an article. Thanks Chewings72 (talk) 11:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Govvy and Modussiccandi - you both may be interested in my comments, above. Chewings72 (talk) 11:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Chewings72: Thanks for the heads up, just reported them now. Alivardi (talk) 18:28, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Request for changes in locked article Akbar.
editHello, could you please add in the marriage section about Rukmavati Bai, also known as Jodhi Bibi, the youngest daughter of Rao Maldeo Rathore by Tipu Gudi(Paswan/concubine) who was born posthumously to him. She married Akbar in 1581 when she was about 17 (I think) . She was sent to Akbar in dōlō and this marriage was either arranged by one of her half-brothers Chandrasen or Udai Singh. You can find several sources including The Mertiyo Rathors of Merta, Rajasthan Volume II pg-35. I've already request on the main article but it seems like no one has cheak the talked page. Manavati (talk) 22:01, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Manavati: No problem and thank you for the barnstar. I've found mentions in sources of the dolo marriage and am happy to add it to the article. However, I'm not seeing any mentions for when it happened nor for Rukmavati being Maldeo's posthumous daughter. If you are able, could you send me the links for where you read this? Thanks
Alivardi (talk) 13:05, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- It's my pleasure to contribute. Unfortunately, I am, for the time period, unable remember the genealogical book when I have found it. Although I do remember correctly she is said to have been born in the year 1563( Maldeo died in 1562). But I suggest you to leave the birth thing out for meantime till I find the book. Manavati (talk) 13:21, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Manavati: No problem, just added it. Alivardi (talk) 20:51, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- It's my pleasure to contribute. Unfortunately, I am, for the time period, unable remember the genealogical book when I have found it. Although I do remember correctly she is said to have been born in the year 1563( Maldeo died in 1562). But I suggest you to leave the birth thing out for meantime till I find the book. Manavati (talk) 13:21, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Award
editAll-Around Amazing Barnstar | ||
Keep up your awesome work! Manavati (talk) 22:09, 2 April 2021 (UTC) |
Revert Sandhawalia
editRevert Sandhawalia Rax singh (talk) 04:34, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Apologies
editI tend to draft on the page not of the sandbox because that is easier for me, I might have published it by accident or something, not sure what happened
ANI case
editHello, Alivardi. Hope you are okay. There is a mention of you in this ANI case concerning the activities of User:256Drg, several of whose edits you have had cause to revert. You may wish to comment but, if not, my apologies for bothering you. Thanks and all the best. No Great Shaker (talk) 12:21, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
lohan and lohani
edita vast of population of lohan i.e lohani is living in greater haryana, so i request u to add this on the page of lohani Devlohan (talk) 07:04, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello Alivardi. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Ali Tabar, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: While have almost no Persian. I'm familiar with the term Nawabzada and I assume the term "Shahzada" means something along those lines. If this was the son (however short lived) of a Mughal prince, there is at least a credible indication indication of significance. This article's talk page is empty: use it. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 10:16, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- Apologies if the default "I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion" message seems harsh. I have left a message for the user here. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:55, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Shirt58: No worries, your message didn't seen harsh or anything. Re the deletion, my reasoning was based on WP:BIOFAMILY, which I thought stated that familial relationships were no indication of notability. As far as I can see, the only information known about the subject themselves is the year of their birth/death. But if this isn't enough basis for a speedy deletion, I'll open a deletion discussion instead. Thanks.
Alivardi (talk) 11:24, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Shirt58: No worries, your message didn't seen harsh or anything. Re the deletion, my reasoning was based on WP:BIOFAMILY, which I thought stated that familial relationships were no indication of notability. As far as I can see, the only information known about the subject themselves is the year of their birth/death. But if this isn't enough basis for a speedy deletion, I'll open a deletion discussion instead. Thanks.
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Timurid title
editConsidering you deleted all amir titles, do you think sultan would be a better choice? Beshogur (talk) 13:46, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Beshogur: Whatever can be cited as the appropriate title according to academic sources I guess. Personally, I thought "ruler" was a safer option because such titles seem to change between Timurid monarchs. For instance, while Timur styled himself as "Amir", I'm pretty sure Shah Rukh preferred "Sultan", and Babur "Badshah".
- As an aside, if I caused offence with my reverts or their summaries, I apologise because that was not my intent. I actually very much appreciate your significant contributions to Central Asian history articles.
Alivardi (talk) 14:49, 20 May 2021 (UTC)- @Alivardi: I think all Mugal emperors styled themselves padishah. Timur also assumed the title sultan. Why shouldn't be? Thanks and no need to apologise, seeking some consensus. Beshogur (talk) 15:02, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Dynasty
editHello, I wish to ask you a question. Recently, the dynasty of the Mughal Emperor (except locked ones) is being changed from Timurid to Mughal. Is it change okay? If yes, then should the locked ones be changed too? Or shall the others be reverted back to Timurid dynasty? Manavati (talk) 15:21, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Humayun edit you undid of mine
editYou had removed the edit I did, I forgot to supply the source.
https://ir.library.louisville.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1627&context=etd
Page 33 says clearly "Humayun's half-sister Gulbadan wrote her memoir at the behest of her nephew Akbar, and does mention Humayun's opium use on three occasions, though says nothing about him in relation to alcohol. "
Humayun was an Opium user. This should be included in his wiki entry. For everyone else I can think of who consumed such drugs to a notable level have it mentioned on their pages, why not on Humayun? I know he is a Mughal emperor, but we are not in the Mughal Empire and do not need to hide history and make hagiographies of him.— Preceding unsigned comment added by TrivikramaDas108 (talk • contribs) 19:27, July 17, 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)TrivikramaDas108 MA theses are not considered reliable sources. You will need to find a source for both opium usage as well as frequent usage. --RegentsPark (comment) 19:37, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)RegentsPark How is that source not considered reliable? It's from a university, and is a text from his own half-sister. There are multiple other texts that support this too. I get loving a ruler who is of your religion and such, but let's not let wikipedia become a place of hagiographies being described as reality and being used to suppress other views. I myself don't do that for the great saints that I follow, in fact, before I've mad my account, I have on multiple times edited to include what the opposition has said, included some accusations of wrong doing that is just as severe even. Other people's pages will mention drug use even if it's suspected but not confirmed at all, so there's that as well. Can I be told why this one isn't, even though it's from a university and the account comes form his own half-sister? What would be a reliable source then?TrivikramaDas108 (talk) 20:14, 31 July 2021 (UTC)Trivikramadas108
Dangling ref
editHi Alivardi, I have been working on fixing dangling references that have no corresponding sources, and it appears you added a ref to Aladdin Imad Shah in this edit. Do you know the source? For now, I have hidden the ref. Let me know if you need any assistance if you do know the source! - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 23:54, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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Your edit on Bengal Subah
editSalaam bhai, I have a question regarding your recent edit on Bengal Subah. I uploaded the cropped images of Karrani and Khan. What makes you think that "the minister" mentioned in the description is referring to Munim Khan? Regards UserNumber (talk) 15:00, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- Salam, because I couldn't see how it could be referring to anyone else. See the full description below:[10]
Da'ud, an Afghan contemporary and rival of Mughal emperor Akbar (reigned 1556-1605), ruled the eastern states of Bihar and Bengal and had the audacity to assume the title of padshah (emperor). Attacked and defeated by the imperial troops, Da'ud surrendered to the commander in chief, Mun'im Khan, and accepted Mughal sovereignty. This painting portrays Da'ud donning the splendid golden robe given to him by Mun'im Khan in acceptance of his oath of allegiance and service. The minister sits in front of a freestanding lattice tent--the domed shape of which was an imperial symbol.
- Thanks. Alivardi (talk) 22:30, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- The description makes no mention of where they got this information from. It also introduces Mun'im Khan as the commander in chief. UserNumber (talk) 21:26, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Qarachar
editCan you check this account Ajrun Amir'za-da (talk · contribs)? His draft (Draft:Amar Space) looks very similar to edits of Rage476 (talk · contribs), and the IPs. Maybe a SPI? Could you do it? Beshogur (talk) 14:20, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Sorry Beshogur I am not know any other then you have conflicton with that Qarachar is about for education purpose if you Don't like me for edit then say don't Qarachar Noyan page it’s not for you, i think you heard me wrong! first check my Profile Draft amar space was my personal infos. actually you mistaking to put me in here. Ajrun Amir'za-da (talk) 14:26, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
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