Airborne84
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PBM
editOrganizing
editAfter reorganizing the list page earlier today, I decided to go through the whole play-by-mail games category (well, not the video games) and sort everything there into categories. I skipped everything that you started or already edited in any significant way. This way, if you want to think about what else you can work in, maybe this is a bit easier than just staring at a few dozen articles in a category? :)
- Special
First of all, there is Nuclear War (play-by-mail game) which I started as a redirect in a similar way to the Illuminati PBM, in the thought that maybe one day an article can be created from that.
Galaxy II was an article that went to AFD and got redirected to the list (last good version of article:[1]) but I will say that one of my favorite things to achieve on Wikipedia is to get an article previously deleted for notability reasons to be restored once sources are found.
Battle of the Gods (play-by-mail game) was actually deleted at AFD as mentioned above, but the same principle applies here. You will not be able to see the deleted edits, but this game by Integral Games did have a Dragon review, so if more sources are ever located then it can be undeleted.
Duel2 (aka DuelMasters) was an article redirected to the publisher until I found one review and restored it. Could still use more work though, but one review is better than zero.
- Stubs that I started
Just a list, they are pretty much all in the same shape Hyborian War was when you found it: Alien Conflict, The Assassin's Quest, Catacombs of Chaos, Crime Lords (play-by-mail game), Cyborg (play-by-mail game), Galactic Conflict, Infinite Conflict, LandLords, Lords of Valetia, Raumkrieg, Realms of Sword and Thunder, Space Battle (play-by-mail game), Star Cluster One, Star Trek: The Correspondence Game, Star Venture, Strategic Conflict, Talwaithe, Trajan's Treacherous Trap, Universe II, Warp Force One, Wofan, and Zorphwar. They need a ton of love because they only have one source each (so far) so they may be targeted for deletion or redirection one day. No idea which ones are the most salvageable.
- Stubs that I started, but are in a little better shape
Empyrean Challenge (it does have another review to be added, so that is better than most of the other stubs)Heroic Fantasy (this one too has another review to be added)Space Combat (play-by-mail game) (another stub with another review to be added)Starlord (play-by-mail game)Warp Force Empires (this one has another review to be added)
- Articles that I started, but other people developed
Alamaze – got a Dragon review and an Origins Award, plus a review in White Wolf that I do not have a copy of. Looking good!Capitol (play-by-mail game)– has two reviews, so it is better than most of my PBM articlesPellic Quest– a few reviews on this one!Quest of the Great Jewels – two reviews on this one as wellStarmaster (play-by-mail game) – has two reviewsThe Tribes of Crane – a few reviews for this one!
- Articles I have not worked on that are in bad shape
Again, just a list – most are unsourced or poorly sourced, and I have no idea if they can be fixed or if it is even worth working on them: Adventurers Guild, The Ashes of Empire, The Glory of Kings, Lords of the Earth, Saturnalia (PBM)
- Articles that I did not start and are probably fine
That is, they are not likely to be deleted, but still could use some work:
Hopefully that breakdown is helpful. :) BOZ (talk) 23:26, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- Very helpful @BOZ, thanks. I apparently have picked up the PBM bug and will keep after this for a few more months at least. I suspect I'll be able to get about 3-5 more articles in—while improving some of the ones I've started or modified—before real life picks back up and I'll have to pause for a while. Really appreciate your efforts and thoughts above though. Helpful in identifying which areas to focus on with limited time and resources! --Airborne84 (talk) 23:44, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- @BOZ, if agreeable, please just strikethrough articles when you're happy they're safe from an AfD or other. Will help me see what I've worked on as well as navigate to it later if needed, since for many I probably won't contribute sufficiently to feel like it's enough to list on my user page. And I'd hate to lose the well organized outline you've created here. :) Thanks! --Airborne84 (talk) 16:15, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Sounds good, fair enough! I restored anything else that I removed previously, with a strikethrough on those as well. :) BOZ (talk) 18:10, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- @BOZ, I'll check on Landlords. Airborne84 (talk) 01:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks, let me know. :) BOZ (talk) 21:23, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- &BOZ found one! :) There's probably one or two more floating around out there in Gaming Universal and/or Flagship, but my collection is incomplete. It's hard to get copies of a lot of those nowadays. Airborne84 (talk) 02:53, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- Great, thanks for finding at least one more review on that one; good work as always! BOZ (talk) 04:11, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- Could you please take a look at Infinite Conflict next? BOZ (talk) 12:30, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Doesn't ring a bell, but sure, I'll take a look. --Airborne84 (talk) 15:55, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- &BOZ found one! :) There's probably one or two more floating around out there in Gaming Universal and/or Flagship, but my collection is incomplete. It's hard to get copies of a lot of those nowadays. Airborne84 (talk) 02:53, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks, let me know. :) BOZ (talk) 21:23, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- @BOZ, I'll check on Landlords. Airborne84 (talk) 01:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
- Sounds good, fair enough! I restored anything else that I removed previously, with a strikethrough on those as well. :) BOZ (talk) 18:10, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- @BOZ, if agreeable, please just strikethrough articles when you're happy they're safe from an AfD or other. Will help me see what I've worked on as well as navigate to it later if needed, since for many I probably won't contribute sufficiently to feel like it's enough to list on my user page. And I'd hate to lose the well organized outline you've created here. :) Thanks! --Airborne84 (talk) 16:15, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
@BOZ, didn't come up with much on this one. It's listed in Paper Mayhem #15 (Nov/Dev 1985) in the PBM game listing (trivial mention), and two issues later in #17 in a section under Gemini Games with four paragraphs of "in-game" material which isn't suitable for a Wikipedia article. My next issue is #22, so it's possible there is more on this game in the other "between" issues I don't have. I also have an Aug/Sep 1987 Gaming Universal, with no mention of it, but no adjacent issues. Those are hard to find. I have most of the White Wolf Magazine issues, but they didn't run that many PBM articles other than their annual PBM issues (usually one article per issue) and I just recently ran through them and don't recall Infinite Conflict coming up. At this point, I don't know if this PBM game is notable enough and the sources exist but I just don't have them, or it was just an extremely short-lived game and it is one of the few that are just destined to fall below the threshold of notability for Wikipedia. Airborne84 (talk) 03:16, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking that one, something may always turn up later. Meanwhile, do you see anything else for Trajan's Treacherous Trap? BOZ (talk) 12:17, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- @BOZ wow, that's an old one! Afraid I don't have anything on that one. --Airborne84 (talk) 18:19, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- Do you see anything for Talwaithe? BOZ (talk) 12:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- @BOZ, not that one either. I have a listing in a 1986 issue of Paper Mayhem of the PBM games they were tracking. Not a rating list—just a list of existing games. It's not listed. (Nor is Trajan's Treacherous Trap) I have a few 1984 Paper Mayhem's as well, but Talwaithe isn't anywhere in them that I could see. Airborne84 (talk) 23:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Do you see anything for Talwaithe? BOZ (talk) 12:24, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- @BOZ wow, that's an old one! Afraid I don't have anything on that one. --Airborne84 (talk) 18:19, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
I found this one while trolling through the online version of Pyramid in case you can put it to any use: http://www.sjgames.com/pyramid/sample.html?id=363 BOZ (talk) 01:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Hey there, I know you are busy at the moment, but if you find any time to add anything from Paper Mayhem to Crasimoff's World which I started today, that would be great. :) BOZ (talk) 18:00, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hi BOZ. I don't recall seeing Realms of Sword and Thunder in Paper Mayhem. Might still be in there somewhere. I'll rummage through sometime later this week. My ability to do so will drop off next week for a while. I missed your note on Crasimoff's World. Will check that as well. Focused on Hyborian War's nomination right now as it's stalled, unfortunately. Airborne84 (talk) 18:24, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- No worries, and I hope all goes well with that. Another user found an article in Dragon that covered this game and several others briefly, and a few in more detail, so I added to the reception section of all which already had articles. :) BOZ (talk) 12:55, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- BOZ, didn't find anything on these two, unfortunately. Airborne84 (talk) 03:28, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking! BOZ (talk) 03:31, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- I found a rather unexpected source for a review for Crasimoff's World, and other PBMs: https://archive.org/details/Computer_Gamer_Issue_03_1985-06_Argus_Press_GB/page/n41/mode/2up :) BOZ (talk) 22:57, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Nice find @BOZ! I think I can put that one to good use now. Side note: I found an advertisement in Flagship #4 for Crasimoff's World where the company (Adventures by Mail) noted that the editors of GAMES magazine chose one of their other games, BSE, as a top 100 game. Will have to look into GAMES magazine. Airborne84 (talk) 23:20, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- BOZ, didn't find anything on these two, unfortunately. Airborne84 (talk) 03:28, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- No worries, and I hope all goes well with that. Another user found an article in Dragon that covered this game and several others briefly, and a few in more detail, so I added to the reception section of all which already had articles. :) BOZ (talk) 12:55, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Hey there! :) I'm still going through White Wolf periodically when taking a break from going through White Dwarf, and I am at issue #21 today. I don't have anything to request from you this time, but I figured I would share a couple of things with you. First of all, RPGnet does not always list the games by name (since they are not RPGs after all) but the review column for PBMs in this issue covered "a half-dozen": https://index.rpg.net/display-entry.phtml?articleid=33512 Also interesting, in the capsule reviews section the issue covers a publication called "The 1990-91 Who's Who Among Play-by-Mail Gamers": https://index.rpg.net/display-entry.phtml?articleid=33514 Now, I did not think it made much sense for me to start an article about that topic, but I figured maybe you could make use of it in the main PBM article or someplace? BOZ (talk) 17:00, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks @BOZ. Unfortunately, I don't have White Wolf No. 21. Too bad. Will rummage around and see if there's one for sale in the next couple of weeks. Airborne84 (talk) 20:14, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Someone helped me find another good magazine source for games, Games International (which later became a video games magazine). They did run a PBM column for a while, see for example issue 1, issue 2, and issue 6. I am still going though the 16 issues that I have access to (that may be all there ever was) so I will let you know if I spot more in the second half of the run. :) BOZ (talk) 21:38, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Another unexpected PBM source, issue #36 of Computer Gaming World[2] has an article on pages 40-41 that details It's a Crime, Fleet Maneuvers, Illuminati, and Feudal Lords, and the article hints at future installments so I will let you know when/if I come across those. :) BOZ (talk) 22:54, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
If you have White Wolf #23, it has a review of a PBM called Death & Sorrow: [3] BOZ (talk) 01:38, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- I will be looking at issue #24 tomorrow, which has a review of two PBMs, Dark Blades and The Land of Karrus: [4] BOZ (talk) 23:06, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
I don't know if you have an idea on how to access it, or if it would even be worth looking at, but the French magazine Casus Belli did a review of a PBM called "En Garde!": [5] BOZ (talk) 05:23, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hey! Another one called "Quest" from a different issue of the same magazine: [6] BOZ (talk) 03:13, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
- And another: [7] BOZ (talk) 03:18, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is along the same lines as a typical PBM game, but today I added a review for a postal version of Railway Rivals. BOZ (talk) 06:05, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Imagine magazine did a profile on four PBM games over a span of I think three issues; I looked at the first of these issues today and added commentary to three articles and started a new one for
Warboid World. :) BOZ (talk) 19:56, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
I saw today that The Games Machine did an article on PBM in 1989: [8] BOZ (talk) 17:32, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Computer Gaming World #100 has an article about Diplomacy and other PBEM games on Compuserve, p154: https://www.cgwmuseum.org/galleries/issues/cgw_100.pdf BOZ (talk) 16:44, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
I meant to share this with you, all the PBM articles I found in early issues of The Games Machine:
- The Games Machine #6: PBM[9]
- The Games Machine #7: PBM[10]
- The Games Machine #8: PBM[11]
- The Games Machine #9: PBM[12]
- The Games Machine #10: PBM[13]
- The Games Machine #11: PBM[14]
- The Games Machine #12: PBM[15]
- The Games Machine #21: PBM[16]
- The Games Machine #22: PBM[17]
- The Games Machine #23: PBM[18]
- The Games Machine #24: PBM[19]
- The Games Machine #25: PBM[20]
BOZ (talk) 02:28, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks @BOZ! Very helpful! Airborne84 (talk) 00:39, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
I'm always finding more, in unexpected places! Check these out from Asimov's Science Fiction: [21][22]. BOZ (talk) 12:38, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks BOZ! Airborne84 (talk) 01:19, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
I started three new ones, in case you are interested in developing them further: SABRE, Scramble, and Xenophobe. :) BOZ (talk) 05:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @BOZ. It may be some time as I'm doing a lot of non-Wikipedia writing and IRL is keeping me busy as well. Happy editing! Airborne84 (talk) 05:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds good and no worries. :) BOZ (talk) 11:16, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Just noting that today I started Destiny (play-by-mail game) and Gameplan II. :) BOZ (talk) 18:49, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- I started DROIDS, Ruler of the Galactic Web, Supremacy, as well as Who's Who Among Play-by-Mail Gamers yesterday. :) BOZ (talk) 13:10, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Two more today: Monopoly (play-by-mail game) and Outer Reaches (play-by-mail game). :) BOZ (talk) 19:28, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- And then Death & Sorrow today. BOZ (talk) 06:20, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Started Dark Blades (play-by-mail game) but that's probably it for the next few weeks. :) BOZ (talk) 19:04, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @BOZ. It may be a while before I get to these, but I suspect that eventually I will be able to. Airborne84 (talk) 05:29, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. :) In the meantime, I'll continue to update you here. :) BOZ (talk) 05:54, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @BOZ. It may be a while before I get to these, but I suspect that eventually I will be able to. Airborne84 (talk) 05:29, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of Paper Mayhem for deletion
editA discussion is taking place as to whether the article Paper Mayhem is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Largoplazo (talk) 01:47, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
White Wolf Magazine
editHi there! I have seen in places before where you had access to White Wolf? Would you have access to issue #36 for the review of Asticlian Gambit? BOZ (talk) 13:06, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- @BOZ Yup. I added it to the article. It wasn't a huge review, but it's added. Airborne84 (talk) 18:25, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Good deal, thanks. :) There are a ton of games reviews in White Wolf, but if you don't mind, could I trouble you do see what you can do about
Monster Mythologywhich was reviewed in the same issue, andBlack Flameswhich was reviewed a few issues later? BOZ (talk) 21:00, 19 April 2020 (UTC)- Will do. Might take a few days, but I'll take a look. Airborne84 (talk) 22:29, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you kindly! :) BOZ (talk) 04:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- @BOZ, sure. I also put some block text in so that you can break it up or paraphrase how you'd like. Airborne84 (talk) 17:46, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you kindly! :) BOZ (talk) 04:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- Will do. Might take a few days, but I'll take a look. Airborne84 (talk) 22:29, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
- Good deal, thanks. :) There are a ton of games reviews in White Wolf, but if you don't mind, could I trouble you do see what you can do about
Hey there! Thanks a bunch for hitting these up. I moved Arcane Shadows and Dragon's Crown (module) to draft space; they were reviewed in White Wolf #35 and #38 respectively, so would you mind adding those reviews if you have access? BOZ (talk) 02:46, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
- Also, I'm not sure how much access you have to older issues, but... 11 PBM reviews in issue #10 from the late 1980s if you are interested, just in case. :) BOZ (talk) 18:33, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- Sure BOZ, I can add the reviews from White Wolf 35 and 38. Will do it this week. Real life is re-emerging and I'll be around less and less, but no problem on this. I've got White Wolf #10 as well. Nothing spectacular in there as I recall. Possibly useful to add for WP:GNG for an article or two. Airborne84 (talk) 04:06, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- Excellent, whatever you can do here and there is great. :) I am still thrilled with how much good work you were able to do in a short amount of time. BOZ (talk) 15:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Well done as always. I have one more thing for now, if you can find the time. I was going through the index of White Wolf at RPG.net to add a note about the review to existing articles and create new ones when there is no article. In most cases when creating a new one, I can find additional reviews to help make sure it meets the GNG. In the minority of cases where I don't find another review, I was wondering if you would be willing to add the White Wolf review to the articles? Right now, I am just talking about three articles for BattleTech from White Wolf #7:
Tales of the Black Widow Company,BattleTech: Map Set 1, andDecision at Thunder Rift. I will probably add more later, but those are all I have right now. BOZ (talk) 17:39, 21 May 2020 (UTC)- Sorry BOZ, I have most of the White Wolf Magazines, but I don't have issue #7. For some reason, it's not available digitally, and I never got a hard copy. Airborne84 (talk) 04:22, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, oh well! That's fine, don't want to take your attention away from Hyborian War. :D BOZ (talk) 04:27, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry BOZ, I have most of the White Wolf Magazines, but I don't have issue #7. For some reason, it's not available digitally, and I never got a hard copy. Airborne84 (talk) 04:22, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- Sure BOZ, I can add the reviews from White Wolf 35 and 38. Will do it this week. Real life is re-emerging and I'll be around less and less, but no problem on this. I've got White Wolf #10 as well. Nothing spectacular in there as I recall. Possibly useful to add for WP:GNG for an article or two. Airborne84 (talk) 04:06, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
If you have issue #12, I started articles for The Adventurers' Guild Bestiary, Adventurers' Guild Bounty Hunters' Handbook, The Adventurers' Guild Tome, I wanted to see if anything can be done with those. BOZ (talk) 05:41, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi BOZ. I have that one. I can help out with those this week. Airborne84 (talk) 00:55, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome, thanks. I'm going to pick back up with issue #13 later today, which among other things, I know had a review for
Kings & Things (play-by-mail game)and another PBM calledKings Warper [23]. BOZ (talk) 12:15, 6 June 2020 (UTC) - Hmm, do you have access to that review for Kings War or any other sources for it? BOZ (talk) 14:42, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- Yup. Will add it later today. Airborne84 (talk) 01:34, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hey hey! :) Now that the FAC is successful, if you have a spare moment, still on issue #13 of White Wolf, I moved
Rollout: The Game of the Risk-TakersandThe Make My Day Card Gameto draft space for now, would you be able to add bits from the reviews for them? BOZ (talk) 00:42, 18 July 2020 (UTC) - I started
Domination (play-by-mail game)if you have a copy of that review from issue #18 or any other sources you would want to add. :) BOZ (talk) 17:05, 5 August 2020 (UTC) - I started several more articles from the next issue #19, in particular two more PBMs
Conquest (play-by-mail game)andThe Final Campaign. That's it for now from WW, more in another week or two. :) BOZ (talk) 00:03, 6 August 2020 (UTC)- No problem. I actually don't have White Wolf #18. One of the few I don't have. But I had a rather strange article from a Paper Mayhem on Domination. It was written in a strange manner and would be hard to paraphrase from to detail gameplay (so I won't), but it helps for WP:GNG, I suppose.
- I'll be slowing down on Wikipedia. Probably will pick one day of the week and edit. Feel free to list projects you're working on like you've been doing and I'll tinker with them as I get time. Airborne84 (talk) 01:30, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- OK, no problem, you have done quite a lot. :) So for issue #19 when you can get to it, aside from the above two PBMs for which you may have additional sources, I also started a few more today including
The Cyclopedia Talislanta Volume II: The Seven Kingdoms,The Stormrider,The Palladium RPG Book 4: Adventures in the Northern Wilderness, andLejentia Campaigns Book 1: Skully's Harborif you don't mind adding something to each of those from the review. BOZ (talk) 03:41, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- OK, no problem, you have done quite a lot. :) So for issue #19 when you can get to it, aside from the above two PBMs for which you may have additional sources, I also started a few more today including
- Hey hey! :) Now that the FAC is successful, if you have a spare moment, still on issue #13 of White Wolf, I moved
- Yup. Will add it later today. Airborne84 (talk) 01:34, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome, thanks. I'm going to pick back up with issue #13 later today, which among other things, I know had a review for
Sorry for a big request, but... if you have access to the White Wolf reviews listed on any of the following pages, would you mind adding the reviews if you can find the time?: Forgotten Realms Adventures (23), Draconomicon, Horde Campaign, The Ruins of Undermountain (30), Gold & Glory, The Great Glacier, Volo's Guide to Waterdeep (36), The Code of the Harpers, The Ruins of Myth Drannor (40), The Shining South (41). If it helps, some of those article are basically empty placeholders so those would be a higher priority. Thanks for any help you can provide on those. BOZ (talk) 05:24, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks again for tackling those - a user added PRODs and some AFDs to over 70 articles (more than a few of which did already clearly meet the GNG, while others like these just needed their sources added) so I appreciate the part you were able to do here. :) Even if some of them have to get merged later, at least now there is a source worth preserving and hopefully more sources will be found in time. BOZ (talk) 04:14, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- I was going through an index I had made of D&D books with White Wolf reviews, and I found that
Ship of HorrorandThe Complete Book of Gnomes & Halflingshad been previously redirected, so I went ahead and restored them and moved them to draft space; when you get a chance, would you please be able to add something from the review to each of those? Much appreciated, anything you can do for them. :) BOZ (talk) 22:27, 3 September 2020 (UTC) - Would you be able to add something from the review to
GURPS Espionage? BOZ (talk) 22:42, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- I was going through an index I had made of D&D books with White Wolf reviews, and I found that
If you find a copy of issue #21, then yesterday I started Edge-On and Rockerboy. BOZ (talk) 04:38, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
- In case you have issue #22, apparently there is a PBM version of Monopoly?: https://index.rpg.net/display-entry.phtml?articleid=19991 Also, if you are able to add reviews to any of these newly created articles which were featured in that issue: I started articles for
Legendary Lives Player's Primer,Legendary Lives Referee's Rulebook,Age of Ruin (role-playing game),Paranormal Animals of North America,The Living Land. BOZ (talk) 18:30, 9 October 2020 (UTC)- Thanks @BOZ. I added the Monopoly PBM info at the Monopoly article here a while back. I'll try to chip away at the other things over the next month or two, but it'll be a bit. Work has been picking back up. Happy editing! Airborne84 (talk) 05:03, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- Working on issue #23 today, I started articles on three supplements:
CyberRogues,The Nile Empire,Sprawlgangs & Megacorps. BOZ (talk) 17:37, 23 October 2020 (UTC) - I did issue #24 today, so if you have access to that one I started several new ones:
Tales of the Dark Ages,The Order of Hermes,Kingdom of Champions,The Zodiac Conspiracy,Gorgoroth (Middle-earth Role Playing),The Destiny Map,The Possibility Chalice,The Restless Dead (Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay). BOZ (talk) 20:00, 6 November 2020 (UTC) - One of these days I hope to get access to copies of White Wolf myself, but in the meantime anything you can do to help add any of these reviews is appreciated. :) Today, I started a bunch from WW #25:
The Sorcerer's Slave,The Tempest (Ars Magica),Champions in 3-D,Day of the Destroyer,Invaders from Below,Fantasy Hero Companion,Grey Worlds,Ghost Warriors,Eldarad: The Lost City,The Universal Brotherhood,Nomads of the Nine Nations,Mythic Egypt,Norek: Intrigue in a City-State of Jaiman,Shields of Power,Sky Giants of the Brass Stair,Survivors' Guide to the United Kingdom,White Eagle (Twilight: 2000). BOZ (talk) 22:42, 25 November 2020 (UTC)- Thanks for your efforts @BOZ. I just don't have as much time anymore. I'll try to do a bit here and there though. Airborne84 (talk) 03:16, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- No worries on that, just do what you can when you can. Mostly, if any of these get challenged then I will ping you. BOZ (talk) 17:09, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your efforts @BOZ. I just don't have as much time anymore. I'll try to do a bit here and there though. Airborne84 (talk) 03:16, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Hey there! :) Would you be able to add a little from the White Wolf review to Darklords? BOZ (talk) 04:20, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- If you get a chance, would you mind adding something from the reviews to
Celts Campaign Sourcebook,Hordes of Dragonspear, andIslands of Terror? BOZ (talk) 04:03, 3 March 2021 (UTC)- Done. Sorry I don't have time to do more BOZ. Hope that helps! --Airborne84 (talk) 02:07, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- No worries, thanks for getting those! BOZ (talk) 02:08, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Sorry I don't have time to do more BOZ. Hope that helps! --Airborne84 (talk) 02:07, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- If you have the time, would you be able to add something from the reviews in issue #35 to
Fighter's Challenge,Wizard's Challenge,Dune Trader, and Slave Tribes? BOZ (talk) 15:14, 18 August 2021 (UTC)- @BOZ, I'll pass on this one. I don't have the module to read it, but from the tone of the review I think I'm not the person to address this one. Airborne84 (talk) 17:23, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- Yikes, gotcha! :o BOZ (talk) 18:28, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- No worries @BOZ. Airborne84 (talk) 23:48, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- Yikes, gotcha! :o BOZ (talk) 18:28, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- @BOZ, I'll pass on this one. I don't have the module to read it, but from the tone of the review I think I'm not the person to address this one. Airborne84 (talk) 17:23, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
GURPS Atomic Horroris currently unsourced; do you have the review from #37 to add? BOZ (talk) 13:19, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
If you have the time, would you mind adding something from the reviews in issue #36 to Veiled Alliance, and issue #37 to The Murky Deep, Swamplight, and Roots of Evil (Ravenloft)? BOZ (talk) 18:03, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for that! :) If you have time to tackle some more, whenever you get around to it could you take a look at these from issue #38:
Deck of Magical Items,Creative Campaigning,The Knight of Newts,Sons of Azca, andRage of the Rakasta. BOZ (talk) 04:04, 6 February 2022 (UTC)- Happy to help BOZ. I'm about to take a break from Wikipedia for a while, so I finished these up. Happy editing! Airborne84 (talk) 15:04, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- Sounds fair and thanks, have a great break time. :) BOZ (talk) 16:56, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- Happy to help BOZ. I'm about to take a break from Wikipedia for a while, so I finished these up. Happy editing! Airborne84 (talk) 15:04, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
Whenever you have the time and inclination for more, could you please take a look at Cleric's Challenge from #40, Tales of Enchantment and Thief's Challenge from #42, and New Tales: The Land Reborn from #43? BOZ (talk) 18:30, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Awesome, thank you as always. :) There are a bunch more D&D articles left that could use a blurb from White Wolf, but of the ones that I started over a decade ago as empty skeleton articles, there are only two left that have no other sourced content:
Van Richten's Guide to the Lichfrom #44 and Van Richten's Guide to Werebeasts from #45. :) BOZ (talk) 21:34, 15 April 2022 (UTC)- @BOZ, was able to do the first one, but I don't have issue 45, unfortunately. Airborne84 (talk) 00:02, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- No problem, thanks! :) BOZ (talk) 00:22, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- @BOZ, was able to do the first one, but I don't have issue 45, unfortunately. Airborne84 (talk) 00:02, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
That was it for those many bare skeletal articles with no real content... I've got some D&D articles that do have at least have some content but are in need of at least one independent review, so that's a bit less work if you don't mind continuing? If so, for starters a few of the articles that have no independent reviews in the reception section are Greyhawk Adventures (issue #13), The Complete Priest's Handbook and The Complete Wizard's Handbook (issue #23), and Greyhawk Ruins (issue #24). BOZ (talk) 00:22, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Got a little time for any of these? :) BOZ (talk) 01:10, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for Greyhawk Ruins, do you have access to #13 or #23? BOZ (talk) 22:00, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- I do @BOZ. Will get to those eventually! Airborne84 (talk) 22:02, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Awesome work as always, thank you. :) A few more for next time, these articles only have reviews from Dragon so they need independent reviews: Dark Sun Boxed Set (issue #30), From the Ashes, Al-Qadim: Arabian Adventures, and Land of Fate (issue #34). BOZ (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- @BOZ, I can help with the first one. I don't have issue No. 34 though. Airborne84 (talk) 01:50, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- Well that's something at least, thanks! :) BOZ (talk) 03:34, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- OK, unperturbed! I believe you have issue #35, so would you be able to add anything to
Treasures of Greyhawk,Rary the Traitor,Dragon Kings,Night Howlers? BOZ (talk) 13:33, 18 November 2022 (UTC) - Whenever you have time for more, from issue #36 we have
Golden VoyagesandVan Richten's Guide to Ghosts, and from issue #40 we haveChampions of Mystara, and the two volumes ofThe Magic Encyclopediaare reviewed in both of those issues. :) BOZ (talk) 03:24, 5 December 2022 (UTC) - Awesome, and thank you as always! Two more sets of these to go for the "no independent reviews yet" D&D articles, so the first set of those is
Book of ArtifactsandDoom of Daggerdalefrom #41, andSecrets of the LampandHouse of Strahdfrom #42. :) BOZ (talk) 08:09, 15 February 2023 (UTC) - OK, and thank you once again! To finish up the "no independent reviews cited yet" D&D articles, that leaves us with this batch: White Wolf #43 had
Iuz the Evil,Assassin Mountain, andCastles Forlorn; and White Wolf #44 hadA Dozen and One Adventures. Whatever you can do with any of those, as always, would be great. :) BOZ (talk) 04:14, 20 April 2023 (UTC) - Awesome work, and thank you for finishing these. :) That takes care of the D&D articles with the greatest need to get sources on them. BOZ (talk) 02:52, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- OK, unperturbed! I believe you have issue #35, so would you be able to add anything to
- Well that's something at least, thanks! :) BOZ (talk) 03:34, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
OK, if you are willing to stick with me a bit longer, there is one more set of D&D articles needing White Wolf reviews, and this should be the smallest set yet. This set all has at least one independent review on the article already, but I figure we could always use one more. :) First of all, going through the rest of my list, the Second Edition Player's Handbook had a review in White Wolf #17, while The Complete Fighter's Handbook, The Complete Thief's Handbook, and the original Ravenloft Campaign Setting were all reviewed in White Wolf #23. BOZ (talk) 02:52, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Awesome, and thank you. :) When next you have an opportunity, would you please take a look at
The Castle GuideandLegends & Lorefrom #27, andArms and Equipment GuideandTome of Magicfrom #30? BOZ (talk) 04:34, 24 June 2023 (UTC) - You're rocking it. :) Why not, whenever you're ready, here are the rest of the D&D books from my reviews list!:
Monstrous Compendium Dark Sun Appendix: Terrors of the Desertfrom #35;Forbidden Lorefrom #36;The Complete Book of Humanoids,Creature Catalogue, andDungeons & Dragons Dungeon Master Screenfrom #38; andThe Complete Sha'ir's Handbookfrom #50. BOZ (talk) 03:22, 1 July 2023 (UTC)- Thanks @BOZ. I can't find those reviews in #38. Perhaps they are in a different issue? Airborne84 (talk) 16:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- RPGnet says they are on pages 65 and 68 respectively: [24] BOZ (talk) 02:13, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Awesome, awesome, awesome, you've done amazing to get through nearly all of the D&D reviews from White Wolf. :) I know you had objections to doing the review for Slave Lords, and let me know if you ever get access to issues # 34 or 45, which are noted above, but that is finally it for D&D. :) BOZ (talk) 03:41, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Happy to help @BOZ! Airborne84 (talk) 23:39, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks @BOZ, but I'm going to take a break from Wikipedia for a while. A bit frustrated by some recent events here and I have a busy schedule in the months ahead anyway. Happy editing. Airborne84 (talk) 23:54, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for all you've done, and hope to see you back one day. :) BOZ (talk) 03:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks @BOZ, but I'm going to take a break from Wikipedia for a while. A bit frustrated by some recent events here and I have a busy schedule in the months ahead anyway. Happy editing. Airborne84 (talk) 23:54, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Happy to help @BOZ! Airborne84 (talk) 23:39, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks @BOZ. I can't find those reviews in #38. Perhaps they are in a different issue? Airborne84 (talk) 16:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
OK, so if you are still willing to hang with me on White Wolf, I was hoping we could go back and look at more reviews? So far, I went through all the D&D product reviews from the entire run of the magazine with you, as well as reviews for articles that I started up through issue #25. If you don't mind, I would like to go back and continue with the first 25 issues, focusing on the reviews that I skipped initially, one issue at a time. So for starters, Skyrealms of Jorune had a review on issue #3 page 3 per RPGnet, so would you mind adding that one if you have that issue? If not, you have given an awesomely amazing amount of help on these over the last few years and I appreciate that for what it is. :) BOZ (talk) 14:00, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- No problem BOZ. Will just be slow--here and there. Airborne84 (talk) 01:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Cool, sounds good. :) Do you have issue #3? BOZ (talk) 07:06, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have issue #7? RPGnet shows that one reviewed
King Arthur Pendragonon page 12,The Price of Freedomon page 16, andPsi Worldon page 19. BOZ (talk) 16:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)- Sorry BOZ, I don't have issue 6 or 7. Airborne84 (talk) 02:16, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. :) BOZ (talk) 03:47, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry BOZ, I don't have issue 6 or 7. Airborne84 (talk) 02:16, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have issue #8? RPGnet shows reviews for
HawkmoonandThe Shattered Isleon page 56,Night of the Ninjaon page 59, andTWERPSandWhimsy Cardson page 61. BOZ (talk) 14:48, 30 January 2024 (UTC)- Thank you as always. :) Just so you know, it looks like every issue from here out does contain reviews, so let me know if you are missing any from your collection and I will skip those. I have access to a handful of later issues in the 40s and 50s I think. A few issues are completely done already, so I will skip those as well as any individual reviews that have already been added. More later! BOZ (talk) 14:39, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Issue #9 has a bunch of reviews, so I will break them down bit by bit. First of all,
Cyborg Commandoon page 33,Top Secret/S.I.on page 34, andWarhammer Fantasy Roleplayon page 35. BOZ (talk) 15:02, 8 February 2024 (UTC)- Sorry BOZ, I don't have No. 9. I have issues 10-31 before my next break in issues. Airborne84 (talk) 23:17, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, OK, no problem! I'll take a look and see what we need from #10 sometime next week. :) BOZ (talk) 23:21, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry BOZ, I don't have No. 9. I have issues 10-31 before my next break in issues. Airborne84 (talk) 23:17, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Issue #10 had just a few reviews,
Expendables (role-playing game)on page 27,Star Wars: The Roleplaying Gameon page 37, and 11 PBMs on page 53[25] if you have not already gone through those. :) BOZ (talk) 16:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
In appreciation
editThe Featured Article Medal | ||
By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with this special, very exclusive award created just for we few, we happy few, this band of brothers, who have shed sweat, tears, and probably blood, in order to be able to proudly claim "I too have taken an article to Featured status". Gog the Mild (talk) 14:09, 10 July 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you Gog the Mild! Greatly appreciate all your assistance on this article! Airborne84 (talk) 16:06, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- I will say that it has been enjoyable watching an editor go after a topic with a passion. :) BOZ (talk) 00:49, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the cheering on BOZ. And as I recall, you started that one! Airborne84 (talk) 03:33, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- By the way, Gog the Mild, and BOZ, I'll nominate it for TFA in a few days after IRL settles down. Airborne84 (talk) 03:52, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome, keep it rolling. :) Is there a date you can tie it to, or are you banking that the uniqueness of the topic will put it over the criteria for support on TFA? I got Planescape: Torment on TFA for its 20th anniversary, for example. :) BOZ (talk) 06:16, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- No date in mind. I could be wrong, but right now there are 11 requests for August 1–31, so unless a bunch of additional requests pour in during the next two weeks, they'll probably list some reruns in August. My guess is that as long as the blurb meets the standard, and it has enough support, it'll be OK, either in August or September. I could be wrong on that, of course. We'll see how it goes! Airborne84 (talk) 22:25, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Well, Gog the Mild, and BOZ. I listed it at WP:TFAR. We'll see how it goes! Airborne84 (talk) 01:18, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Looks like they have changed things since the long-ago last time I put something on the request page - you no longer have to aim for a specific day! You get extra points if you have an anniversary you can link it to. Cool, I will check in on that from time to time. BOZ (talk) 03:33, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Well, Gog the Mild, and BOZ. I listed it at WP:TFAR. We'll see how it goes! Airborne84 (talk) 01:18, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- No date in mind. I could be wrong, but right now there are 11 requests for August 1–31, so unless a bunch of additional requests pour in during the next two weeks, they'll probably list some reruns in August. My guess is that as long as the blurb meets the standard, and it has enough support, it'll be OK, either in August or September. I could be wrong on that, of course. We'll see how it goes! Airborne84 (talk) 22:25, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome, keep it rolling. :) Is there a date you can tie it to, or are you banking that the uniqueness of the topic will put it over the criteria for support on TFA? I got Planescape: Torment on TFA for its 20th anniversary, for example. :) BOZ (talk) 06:16, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- By the way, Gog the Mild, and BOZ, I'll nominate it for TFA in a few days after IRL settles down. Airborne84 (talk) 03:52, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the cheering on BOZ. And as I recall, you started that one! Airborne84 (talk) 03:33, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- I will say that it has been enjoyable watching an editor go after a topic with a passion. :) BOZ (talk) 00:49, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Precious
editplay-by-mail games
Thank you for quality articles such as sentence spacing and Hyborian War, spaced in time, for It's a Crime (play-by-mail game) and Beyond the Stellar Empire, for collaboration and inspiration, in service from 2010 and with plans, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
You are recipient no. 2435 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:45, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'm honored. Thanks Gerda Arendt, and much appreciated! Airborne84 (talk) 10:00, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
After a favour …
editHi Airborne, how are you doing? Any more goodies coming down the road in terms of GANs or FACs now that you have set the precedent? More importantly how busy are you? And how generous are you feeling? Do you fancy reviewing one of my unloved GANs? Perhaps Battle of the Trebia? Although I admit that it is a biggy at a little over 5,000 words? Being serious, if time or motivation don't permit, I entirely understand. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:11, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild, I should be able to in the next week or so. Things IRL are picking back up, so I won't be on Wikipedia much for a while, but I've been checking here and there recently. You pinged me at a good time! Airborne84 (talk) 16:56, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
- My lucky day then. Thanks, appreciated. Someone has just picked up Battle of the Trebia, but Siege of Carthage (Third Punic War), Mathos and Punic Wars are available Gog the Mild (talk) 10:48, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Greatly appreciated Gog the Mild and Buster7!! Airborne84 (talk) 00:23, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Thanks @BOZ! Merry Christmas to you as well! Airborne84 (talk) 00:16, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Thanks @Blue Pumpkin Pie! I appreciate it! --Airborne84 (talk) 00:19, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- Awesome recognition for a hardworking editor. :) BOZ (talk) 10:09, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
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Drafts
editHey there! :) I have been building User:BOZ/Games deletions for the last few months, which does include a small section on deleted PBM articles. Looking over those, and all the redlinks above that I posted last year about articles I wanted to eventually start, I went ahead and started draft pages for a bunch of these - you know, in case you don't already have enough to work on. ;) They will be automatically deleted in 6 months if not edited by a human, but that is no big deal because they can always be restored; work on any of these that you feel like, and they can be moved (back) into article space whenever they are ready. :)
- Draft:Button Men Web Game
- Draft:Nuclear War (play-by-mail game)
- Draft:Galaxy II
- Draft:Blue Dwarf roleplaying game
- Draft:Imperium (PBEM game)
- Draft:Kings War
BOZ (talk) 01:44, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks BOZ! I'll take a look over time and see what I can do. Happy editing! Airborne84 (talk) 12:38, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- If you can find something for even one or two of these like you did with Quest: World of Kharne, that would be awesome. :) BOZ (talk) 04:27, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- I looked a while back and didn't find anything for these BOZ. I'll take a look again. Airborne84 (talk) 13:22, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Just keep these in mind, in case anything ever pops up for any of them. :) BOZ (talk) 12:20, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- If you can find something for even one or two of these like you did with Quest: World of Kharne, that would be awesome. :) BOZ (talk) 04:27, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
I just want to say great work again on Lords of the Earth and the others I removed from this list. Keeping the rest in draft space for now is no problem, and who knows you may discover quality sources for some or all of them in the future and we can restore them as well. :) BOZ (talk) 22:54, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks @BOZ. I'll keep my eyes open! Airborne84 (talk) 17:59, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
Greetings Airborne84
editWere you airborne in 1984? I was just leaving as the 1/509th ABCT was becoming 4/325. —¿philoserf? (talk) 15:05, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note Philoserf. Great to meet you! No, 1984 was before my time. The "84" was just available. See you around! --Airborne84 (talk) 21:39, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
Flying Buffalo
editCheck out the citations I made and let me know if it is kosher... Jokem (talk) 07:04, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Thanks BOZ. Merry Christmas to you! Airborne84 (talk) 21:32, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
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Quest PBM
editQuestion, are Quest: World of Kharne and Quest (game) basically the same thing? I created the first one last year and you created the second one this year. If they're not the same game then there are a lot of coincidental similarities. :) If they are the same game, then they will need to be merged. Let me know what you think. BOZ (talk) 22:46, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- It must be @BOZ. I wonder if World of Kharne went with the US edition? I'll rummage around. I'm fine with merging. Which way would you like to do it? Airborne84 (talk) 01:51, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- On the one hand, my version (World of Kharne) came first. On the other hand your version is better written and got a DYK. I'm fine either way honestly, as long as we don't lose anything. Find out about the origin of the name and then we'll make a decision on which way to go. BOZ (talk) 05:33, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- They are the same @BOZ. Kharne is the setting for the game. I can't find any article or listing using "World of Kharne" other than the Origins Award website. My recommendation is to merge into Quest (game) and use the other name as one of the listed alternative names. I have some time later today or tomorrow and can do it. Airborne84 (talk) 22:45, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Sweet, good work. :) I leave it in your capable hands, but I will follow up after you're done. :) BOZ (talk) 00:14, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
- They are the same @BOZ. Kharne is the setting for the game. I can't find any article or listing using "World of Kharne" other than the Origins Award website. My recommendation is to merge into Quest (game) and use the other name as one of the listed alternative names. I have some time later today or tomorrow and can do it. Airborne84 (talk) 22:45, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- On the one hand, my version (World of Kharne) came first. On the other hand your version is better written and got a DYK. I'm fine either way honestly, as long as we don't lose anything. Find out about the origin of the name and then we'll make a decision on which way to go. BOZ (talk) 05:33, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
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I'm wishing you a Merry Christmas, because that is what I celebrate. Feel free to take a "Happy Holidays" or "Season's Greetings" if you prefer. :) BOZ (talk) 23:02, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks @BOZ!! Same to you! Airborne84 (talk) 23:55, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
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see also possible issues
editHi Airborne,
just spotted this edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Middle-Earth_Play-By-Mail&diff=1138499258&oldid=1134919268
It seems like you ought to get a template which has the content of 'list of play-by-mail games' in it and paste that into the articles (at the end) instead of the edit you made (and it looks like it might be in a few laces and possibly want to be undone ?).
I think a link in the 'see also' section suggests there is something in those articles that mentions the page the 'see also' was on (or at least expands the content of the page in a way that is related to what the person looking at the article would find useful)
So a 'see also' for 'JRRTolkien' might be a suitable entry for Middle-Earth_Play-By-Mail (or the text could be blue linked if it already there) but if I follow one of the links to say hyborian war I don't see any mention of Middle-Earth_Play-By-Mail, nor anything that expands the readers knowledge of Middle-Earth_Play-By-Mail - obviously it shows another pbm game - but that's already in the 'list of play-by-mail games' and would be in the template.
hope that makes sense EdwardLane (talk) 13:32, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi EdwardLane. Thanks for the note. Frankly, this is the first effort I've taken to link play-by-mail (PBM) articles together in any meaningful way. So, I'm striking out in a new area to some degree.
- The thread linking the articles together is that they are all fantasy wargame PBM games. I drew from the "Fantasy Wargames" category of awards published in Flagship magazine, so it comes from a PBM magazine source; it's not a self-generated list. If you think this isn't right, please advise. But I thought it would be useful for readers to see other games in the same PBM sub-genre (the "List of" article does not break out sub-genres). I had planned to do the same for science fiction PBM games, dueling PBM games, political PBM games, and crime PBM games, since Flagship uses those bins as well. Thoughts? Airborne84 (talk) 00:37, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- I added short annotations to the See also links to identify their relevance. After rummaging around in the See also section, I saw it says "Editors should provide a brief annotation when a link's relevance is not immediately apparent". If you asked the question, others might as well. Thanks! Airborne84 (talk) 21:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm going to agree, a template seems like a good idea to replace the large "see also" sections. For an idea of how you could put one together, see Template:Avalon Hill which I created. BOZ (talk) 01:23, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- That seems like it would work better. Never put a template together, but that seems like the best way to go. Thanks! Airborne84 (talk) 01:26, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- With how many PBM articles there are now, it would be super helpful to have one. You can section them off between sci-fi against fantasy, or which ones are RPGs or wargames or whatever seems best. BOZ (talk) 01:47, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- That seems like it would work better. Never put a template together, but that seems like the best way to go. Thanks! Airborne84 (talk) 01:26, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm going to agree, a template seems like a good idea to replace the large "see also" sections. For an idea of how you could put one together, see Template:Avalon Hill which I created. BOZ (talk) 01:23, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- I added short annotations to the See also links to identify their relevance. After rummaging around in the See also section, I saw it says "Editors should provide a brief annotation when a link's relevance is not immediately apparent". If you asked the question, others might as well. Thanks! Airborne84 (talk) 21:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
I think the template works really well, good job
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