Talk:Theo Walcott/Archive 1

Archive 1

Transfer speculation sources

I've rewritten these paragraphs (I assume the second was added later) and added a link:

After his performance against Stoke former Saints manager David Merrington drew parallels with Arsenal's French striker Thierry Henry. The 30th October 2005 copy of the Mail On Sunday then linked Walcott with a bidding war between Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester United, with bidding starting at £10 million next summer.

Simon Peach, Daily Telegraph, Mail, Times, every paper in the world!

The Mail on Sunday article mentioned certainly isn't the first piece in the media linking Theo Walcott to bigger clubs. I've added a link to an article from the Guardian which isn't the first either but has some good general information and mentions the transfer speculation. Andy Smith (talk) 16:34, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Previous clubs.

Pretty sure he was a youth player at Swindon between playing in Newbury and going to Southampton. Can anybody verify this?
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.186.132 (talk • contribs)

A Google search for walcott swindon [1] provides some evidence that he did.
Slumgum | yap | stalk | 22:06, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Not related to Sir Clyde Walcott

Or, at least - he isn't according to Clyde Walcott. Gerry Lynch 09:15, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Birthplace

I have removed his place of birth as "London" and "West London", as there is conflicting data on the ever reliable internet. Half the pages I read state "Middlesex", the others state "Newbury, Berks". arsenal.com says Middlesex BTW. He still lives near Newbury, in Compton, but certainly half the WWW has got it wrong, so we play safe and say neither. Andymarczak 10:23, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I live in Compton Berkshire - and used to dodge him playing football in the street on my way home from work. He deffinatly grew up in Compton, and went to the Downs School Secondary school in the village. So i've added this. He does'nt live in the village now, although his family still do. User:keef30

200.127.134.98, Theo Walcott Web & External Links

This IP address keeps removing all external links except for, seemingly, his own, Theo Walcott Web.

Theo Walcott Web is Argentinia based, contains no original content or information (duplicate content), website only launched very recently. non-authoritative source.

There are numerous other Walcott genuine fan sites that have been in existance long before Theo gained his recent fame. These sites contain original content and fan discusions, though not official fair more deserving of a link than Theo Walcott Web, which appears to be an opportunistic site spamming wikipedia for visitors. In fact parts of this very article were formed from information from these other sites, for example www.theo-walcott.org.uk.

Please see article history and comments. IP continues to spam wiki with his site.

Wikipedia:External links - guidance on external links. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:EL — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.181.183 (talk • contribs) 14:37, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

An adminstrator

Please state that Melanie Slade is Theo's gf. Prin S 12:05, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Cant you do it yourself? Philc _T^E_C^I 23:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Photo

There used to be a decent photo of him up on this page, I don't know why it was taken down, but it would be cool is someone could find a photo we could show up here legally. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skaterdude182 (talk • contribs) 07:25, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

May as well post a big Nike logo --JamesTheNumberless 08:53, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

No, I think a picture of Walcott would be better. -- Slumgum | yap | stalk | 09:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

And you're right. Here I was expecting his visage to be the property of his sponsor by now, they're a little slow off the mark --JamesTheNumberless 22:41, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Melanie Slade into this article

There's some discussion on the Melanie Slade article as to whether she's notable enough for an article in her own right. I have, provisionally, suggested a merge into this article, as her relationship with Theo is the only reason for any notability she has (contextual notability). Comments here or on Talk:Melanie Slade please. — Estarriol ^talk 08:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Sepaate people with a link - Richard and Judy have two articles plus a joint one.... Posh and Becks have separate articles.... I'd keep it separate. Robertsteadman 08:59, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree the two articles should be kept seperate, if Melanie was only famous for being the Girlfriend of Walcott, than it should be merged however now she has modeled in the sun and other medium and as models have their own pages it would only be correct to give her own. It could be argued that she only became a model because she is Walcotts girlfriend however it does not matter as she now is a model Behind the veil

Separate articles - Melanie attracts enough media interest by herself to justify a page, even if her fame came through Theo. I can see why, someone should get a picture. Tibi08 19:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

She's arguably more famous than Theo is. Keep them separate, says  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  03:19, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

She's also arguably less famous than Theo is, too, and that argument would actually hold some sway. -- Boothman _/tɔːk/ 09:54, 27 June 2006 (UTC).

Definition of "assists"

What definition are we using of "assists"? I'm aksing because although Walcott was crucial in Gilberto's goal on Saturday he did not get the last touch - and this was always how Fantasy Football defined assists when I used to play it about ten years ago! I think that Walcott's cross on Saturday is worthy of being called an assist; I'm just concerned that others might think otherwise and the stats table could get muddled. What official stats sources list assists for Premiership games? --Jim (Talk) 21:17, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I thought this too. Assists are definitely something that needs a reference, because without one, the stats could be either (or both) POV or original research.  sʟυмɢυм • т • c  21:21, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, I've answered my own question. Check out [2]. It only seems to work in Internet Explorer, but it does provide full stats for Premiership players and teams going back to the year dot. It credits Walcott with an assist, so that's our reference. Case closed. --Jim (Talk) 21:23, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Theo Jerome -> Theo James

A couple of days back someone edited the article to say that Theo's middle name was Jerome, rather than James as the article had previously stated. I left the edit as I wasn't sure what was correct. However, a quick google shows that the only results for "Theo Jerome Walcott" is... ummm... [3]

So I reckon his middle name must be James. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by James Kemp (talk • contribs) 11:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

At www.allfootballers.com [4] his middle name is shown as James. Unfortunately as this is a subscription based service, the link won't work unless you pay! Daemonic Kangaroo 12:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Quotes

Should be moved to wikiquote.com Mad Jack 06:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Moved. aLii 20:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Unencyclopaedic

The last paragraph under England National Team is very unencyclopaedic, especially this sentence: "If his first goal was magical, the second was sublime." !x0bile 07:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Removed! aLii 20:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Every second of every minute of every game - Necessary???

I think the level of detail that this article goes into is getting a bit tedious. Wikipedia is not a news service. aLii 00:19, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Nicknames

"The Kid", "The Youngster", "Mr Speed" - are these really widely acknowledged nicknames? Surely the first two are just used as descriptive nouns rather than real nicknames? I'm going to remove them. "Mr Speed" has four google hits, all of them derived from this article. I assume it is also not a recognised nickname. aLii 22:04, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I think you should keep 'Mr.Speed' because it relates to one of his primary characteristics on the pitch-his sublime pace to get past the opposition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.134.157.196 (talk • contribs) 05:40, 3 January 2007

Yes, but so does "Newbury Express" and that is a verifiable nickname, whereas "Mr Speed" is not. aLii 11:19, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Theo vis a vis inclusion in the England World Cup Squad 2006

I'd just like to say as a (currently drunk) Chelsea FC supporter, having seen Theo's skills on youtube, I am very, very excited that he could take the world by storm this summer. The English Pele? Gooners, I am extremely jealous! Beerathon 21:15, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, no article on Gooners yet? According to the papers today, Sven claims to have only ever seen Theo play on video before calling him up (never in person) is this a first for English football? --JamesTheNumberless 08:50, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Probably in the World Cup, yes, but I remember one big manager (Wenger or Ferguson, I think) made a signing after only seeing a few videos of a certain player (I'm a bit hazy on the details, but I remember reading about it a few times). Also, Eriksson probably had scouts watch, at the very least, his U19 appearance and his reserve matches. A very big gamble, though, but Eriksson will be a hero if it works out. If it doesn't work out... he's leaving anyway so life won't be that hard for him... =P – ugen64 19:29, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Apparently Tord Grip watched him several times, and Arsene Wenger has been suggesting that he should be called up for England for a couple of months now. And with Wenger's history of spotting talent, that's a pretty cast-iron recommendation if ever there was one.--Ukdan999 20:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, just look at that Francis Jeffers. Bathory 09:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Full name

I'm pretty sure Theo's full name is Theodore James Walcott. His first name is stated as Theodore at [5]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chemicalrubber (talk • contribs) 05:11, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Caps and goals

added his 1 cap and goal for the u21 england team. it happened today btw
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.166.212.145 (talk • contribs)

Original research is frowned upon. ;o)  Slumgum T. C.   00:13, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

theo has scored for arsenal atleast once, http://youtube.com/watch?v=epw5DjqYJzI is the link showing his finish against chelsea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.224.31.16 (talk) 03:00, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Honours

Why on earth does winning the Under-11 Peter Houseman League Cup count as an honour? Blaggers 26 Jan 08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Blaggers (talk • contribs) 23:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Jacob Walcott

I'm a Reading fan and i'd never heard that Jacob was Theo's cousin, I searched the internet and just found the phrase "distant relative" multiple times. As there is no credible source to state he is his cousin I will edit it.

I won't leave a source to state he is a "distant relative" though as all it would require is a 10 second search on the internet to find one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tidus mi2 (talk • contribs) 23:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

32 goals for Arsenal???

Why does it say hes scored 32? Someone should change that ASAP. Its more like 5, at the most. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.35.136 (talk) 21:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Birthdate

Can someone who is registered put his birthdate back to 16 March 1989 please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.96.141.74 (talk) 21:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

International Appearances

Theo Wallcott has never made an international appearance[6], whoever keeps changing it to say he played for U17 stop it. Philc _T^E_C^I 22:08, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Well I'm not sure if it was the U-17's (and I'm not the one who keeps changing the article) but he has definitely played for England at some level because they showed footage of it on Sky Sports News earlier today! --Ukdan999 22:54, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Also, see this link [7] particularly the picture. I'm pretty sure he's not wearing that England shirt while just out doing his shopping.--Ukdan999 23:00, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, you have a fair point, apologies, I didn't realise you had any basis for this, and were just deleting conflicting statements. Well, now we have a very reputable organisation that seems to be conflicting with what appears to be true, what do we do, all the hard evidence points to him not having made an appearance, but like you said, he probably didnt where that shirt for shits and giggles. Philc _T^E_C^I 23:06, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Don't believe the BBC stats - they're often wrong. The FA claim he's got U17 caps and one for the U19s. [8]
Slumgum | yap | stalk | 23:17, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

UEFA.com mentions him playing in the last season's U-17 Championships too (if only for one match). And [9] has photos of him playing in several different matches for England.--Ukdan999 23:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

At the time of writing he has one under 19 cap. --JamesTheNumberless 08:52, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

He has played in the u21's european championships where england reached the final and was named in fabio capello's squad to play Trinidad and tobago —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.136.249 (talk) 13:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

After the Croatia hat-trick, Walcott is now the youngest player to ever score a hat-trick for England, at 19 years and 163 days old. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockstar64 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

International goals

Umm....I thought Walcott had a goal in one of the Euro 2008 qualifying matches. – Michael (talk) 18:45, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

According to englandstats.com, his only goals were the three against Croatia on 10 September 2008. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:00, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Height

The given height of 5 ft 9 inches for Walcott is very unlikely. As I am unable to edit it, I thought I'd mention it, as I have stood next to Theo myself, I'm 5'9 and he isn't as tall as I am. 5'7 is closer to the mark. -- This comment was originally posted on the main article by User:Johann320 01:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Soccerbase [10] gives his height at 5 ft 8 ins, but I guess that at 18 he's still growing! Daemonic Kangaroo 04:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Theo Walcott is 5'9 1.75cm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.100.132 (talk) 21:14, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Birthplace - which Stanmore?

Born in "Stanmore, England"; now, is that Stanmore, Middlesex; or Stanmore, Berkshire? The latter is not far from Newbury, and only about four miles from his school at Compton, Berkshire. A source would be useful. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:11, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Related to Louis Farrakhan

Does anyone know if Theo Walcott is related to the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.86.109.177 (talk) 16:17, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Is there any source you chanced upon suggesting that... Chensiyuan (talk) 16:52, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Goals

When he scored 2 goals aginst west ham he had 44 goals thats make 46... now he scored against cardiff city now it is 47 46.99.34.134 (talk) 17:12, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

No, per reliable sources Soccerway, Soccerbase and his own club Arsenal he has 194 league appearances and 45 league goals as of match played 1 January 2014. So I undid your change, please consult reliable sources before making such changes in the future. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 04:13, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2015

Footieedit (talk) 23:21, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Adding FA Cup: 2013–14 in Theo Walcott Honours.

•  Not done - Despite your attempts at ignoring various notes across articles, as Walcott did not feature in the final, he does not have the FA Cup listed for that year. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 00:40, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Regardless if you played in the final or not, you get a medal as he did. He won the FA Cup both years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aintseenn (talk • contribs) 15:38, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Can you prove that he got a medal? Even a photo of him lifting the trophy with a medal around his neck on the day *might* (not will) be enough to sway us. – PeeJay 15:40, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

He got a medal for the 2013/14 FA cup victory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deoahm (talk • contribs) 15:28, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2015

It says in the intro about him being dispute.is that necessary?

143.52.43.5 (talk) 21:23, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 12:46, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

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Edit request

In the "Family and personal life" section, the penultimate paragraph is out of date. It refers to the 2010 version of the FIFA game. The reference points to the 2013 version, which does not feature Walcott. In my opinion, this sentence should be deleted - it is also trivial, and has nothing to do with his Family and personal life. 78.147.170.168 (talk) 07:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi, could you kindly rephrase? Blckbrr7 (talk) 16:51, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

2013-14 FA Cup

Should Theo be credited as an FA Cup winner in 2013-14 with Arsenal? He made an app v. Tottenham. And clubs are given 30 medals to distribute. I'm pretty sure he got one? Even Chessers (who made 0 sub) got one. Blckbrr7 (talk) 16:51, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

From http://www.arsenal.com/first-team/statistics?season=2013/14 24 Arsenal players had apps in the FA Cup 2013-14. Blckbrr7 (talk) 16:57, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 December 2017

In my opinion, the recently added last sentence of the "2017–18 season" section is trivial and should be deleted. If, however, it is to remain it should be re-written in grammatically correct English, perhaps along these lines: "Walcott wore the captain's armband in the 2017–18 EFL Cup quarter-final against West Ham United on 19 December 2017, which Arsenal won 1–0", followed by the citation. 92.26.172.4 (talk) 16:25, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

 Done. It's grammatically incorrect, it uses the purple prose "went on to hold the captain's armband" when it could just say "was captain," and it's arguably irrelevant trivia anyway since Walcott didn't score. I'm also not comfortable with the congratulatory tone of that sentence since, apparently, Walcott had a pretty terrible game. Removed. CityOfSilver 16:41, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 9 July 2018

Please change appearances(goals) for Arsenal from 270(65) to 397(108) based on this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhHeJm_h128) source. ILaz 99 (talk) 04:51, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done You probably didn't see the bit at the bottom of the infobox that says "Senior club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only". The 397/108 figures include all competitions, not just the domestic league. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 08:06, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2018

A minor thing, but in the 'Style of Play' section, it would be more accurate to refer to Arsene Wenger as 'former Arsenal manager'. I think this is the only part in the whole article where the tense makes a difference. The heritor (talk) 19:55, 9 November 2018 (UTC)